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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 17:45:41 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:44:09 2011. There goes the recovery - get ready for the 2011 DEPRESSION! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:46:38 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:37:05 2011. Dude, what are you smoking and can I have some of it? |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 28 17:46:49 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by vfrt on Fri Jan 28 17:25:04 2011. No, Iran has nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood. One's Shi'ite; the other's Sunni. That doesn't stop them being a nasty organization, but they are clearly based in Egypt with tentacles throughout much of the Near East. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:49:18 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 17:45:41 2011. The price of oil is inextricably linked to political stability in the oil-producing regions of the world, and recent developments suggest EVERYTHING will soon cost us all more as a result.It's not just the oil. It's the cost of transporting goods using oil, and everything that we need that is made from oil. $10/gal. gasoline? What about $10/gal milk, or $7 for half a dozen eggs? Something to ponder. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:53:58 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jan 28 17:45:41 2011. March crude going to the stratosphere! |
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Posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:57:51 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 28 17:46:49 2011. To most Americans, Egypt, Iran and Afghanistan are all the same place with the same people, culture and history.Kinda like how Canada, Panama and Martinique are all the same place since they they are...ummm I don't know, they're all mostly Christian. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 18:06:06 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:49:18 2011. The only thing that kept our economy from completely collapsing in 2008 is that oil went down for a while. It's already skyrocketed up the last few months, even without this, and I find a lot less money in my wallet to use for OTHER things, as I am putting much more of it in my tank and for heat. That is culminating around the country. And yes, you are also correct, everything we buy or consume is effected by the oil priced, through delivery costs. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 18:07:05 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:37:05 2011. They have no regard for culture other than their own, and their twisted extremist religion. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 18:07:58 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 17:57:51 2011. What are you drinking tonight, as that's a rant. |
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Jan 28 18:10:04 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 17:53:58 2011. Blame Bush/Cheny. They kept those mid-east oil barons in power. (How much oil do we get from Egypt, btw?) Let them all sink in the sand as Hillary said.Too bad a large part of our oil comes from Canada and Mexico, else we could invade them too. Sad (?) to say, it looks like all of north africa will go down (hey, Muammar Abu Minyar al-Gaddafi (معمر القذافي ), can you say "next")? Glad I'm fully invested; the cars can sit up on ciderblocks. We'll donate the rubber to the war effort. Win the Future (WTF; whoever vetted that speech needs his head examined). |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 18:23:40 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 17:35:30 2011. He sure doesn't know how to play hardball. |
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Posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 18:52:53 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 17:13:08 2011. I don't think Mubarek is going anywhere. His position is not weak. Neither the US nor the Israelis are sweating this. That tells me that the smart money is on Mubarek.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Jan 28 18:55:02 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 18:52:53 2011. According to Marginal Revolution, the cost of insuring Egyptian government debt against default is still cheaper than the cost for Irish or Greek government debt.My blog |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jan 28 19:04:49 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 18:52:53 2011. Thugs are thugs because they know how to thug their way around. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:06:12 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Fred G on Fri Jan 28 18:52:53 2011. i think Mubarek will be driven out of egypt sooner than lateror risk death |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:06:28 2011, in response to Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 16:01:55 2011. Egypt's citizens are out teabagging ... remarkably, all signs of this show a popular uprising against a corrupt government, not some sort of Islamic revolution. If Mubarak gets off his ass and actually does something for his citizenry, this might actually be successful and further stabilize Egypt.I'm waiting to see what happens in Qatar where Jazeera is located. Emir has been playing with fire, he might see some interesting results ... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:15:21 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:06:28 2011. i think Mubarek will be driven out of egypt sooner than lateror risk death |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 19:21:53 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:06:28 2011. Egypt's citizens are out teabagging ...Please show a similar sort of view for a tea party group. Thanks. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:24:47 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:15:21 2011. Probably, but it's unlikely at this time IF he pays attention. Obama and Hillary have both told him to piss up a rope unless he starts solving some problems and so he might have the proper motivation at the moment to pay attention. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:25:47 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 28 19:21:53 2011. I'm not here to bother with the politics, merely calling this event what it is ... a bunch of pissed off citizens without a specific cause - they're just pissed. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:30:20 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:24:47 2011. Mubarek is finished SelkirkTMO ! stick a fork in him he is DONE |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:34:54 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:30:20 2011. I don't think quite yet ... this isn't the same dynamic as Tunisia. Same cause, but different dynamic ... this one can play out differently as long as Mubarek isn't totally stupid. And I don't think he is. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:42:55 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:34:54 2011. all i can say is how it looks to me.... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:59:13 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 19:42:55 2011. Yep ... no prob ... merely an opinion on my part as well ... won't take long to see where it all goes ... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:02:39 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:06:28 2011. The dynamic here, IMHO, is that the Egyptians, havinbg seen the events in Tunisia, have realized that a successful popular revolution is possible.If the revolt in Egypt is successful, we could see revolts in other countries where repressive regimes rule, such as Saudi arabia and Jordan. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 20:02:46 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:59:13 2011. yep |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:05:28 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:02:39 2011. I think the house of Saud is more deeply bunkered tonight than Olog but yes - Jazeera has been extremely active in advocating all this and I see some interesting ramifications ahead for Dubai ... the IMPORTANT thing to take from this story (I'm not bothering to watch any of the domestic spin on this) is that this is NOT an "Islamic revolution" by any means, it's exactly that ... the PEOPLE have had enough.Certainly various factions will try to take advantage of the situation for their own spin, but it won't gain them much traction ... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:11:53 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:05:28 2011. One thing I do agree with you on, is that Mubarak seriously underestimated the ability of young Egyptians on Facebook and Twitter, to get the uprising together. It's VERY telling that Mubarak shut off the phones and Internet across Egypt last night. (These have been restored on a "limited basis".)The Muslim Brotherhood aside, this is a street-level revolt. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:15:45 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:11:53 2011. Absolutely. I wonder if he can pop up a giant umbrella though to cut the satellite signals ... yes, the mobilization was done through the internet, but the incitement came from the sky. And because Egypt's telecom infrastructure is SUCH a mess, many still use their sat phones and enough of those will be available for people in localities to still get the word out the old-fashioned way.And for our domestic consumption here, we can see also the threats of the "internet kill switch" thingy right here should WE get tired of taking enough shit ... there's some valuable lessons here if we can just get past the yapping common-taters on the talking lamp. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:21:58 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:15:45 2011. I wonder if people here realize what the real importance of international events are. You're right, those who are pushing Obama to authorize an "Internet Kill Switch" are worried about exactly the kind of thing we're watching in Egypt.Considering that the main purpose of the Internet is to facilitate the free exchange of ideas, it's not hard to see why governments want to control as much of the Web as possibe--including democracies like our own. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:24:17 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:21:58 2011. Caught a glimpse of the end of tonight's "Nightly" and at the very end, one of NBC's reporters in Cairo held up one of the shells fired at the protesters ... and clear as day you could see "MADE IN USA" on it. NOT helpful. :(Well ... if the intarwebs ever go down and I'm pissed at our leaders, I still know how to build FM transmitters that can get out a good distance. There's always a way. Heh. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 28 20:24:23 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 19:34:54 2011. Is he still going to that book fair? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:26:10 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:24:17 2011. I saw that very telling infobit on NBC, too.There is ALWAYS a way to get the word out. During WWII, the French Resistance came up with some truly amazing ways to do it, none of which required advanced technology at all. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:32:00 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Jan 28 20:24:23 2011. Somehow I think it might get postponed. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:33:41 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:26:10 2011. Yep ... the thing that amuses me though is that if the intarwebs ever DID go away, even if there weren't riots, there'd definitely be then. :)Verizon ... you're ON notice! Heh. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 20:41:14 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Jan 28 20:21:58 2011. You're talking about the Nazi Lieberman. |
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Posted by johnl on Fri Jan 28 21:03:38 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 20:24:17 2011. Well ... if the intarwebs ever go down and I'm pissed at our leaders, I still know how to build FM transmitters that can get out a good distance.One of the beauties of IP is that it can travel over just about anything (though not quite the carrier pigeon mentioned in one famous RFC). We may rely on the Level 3s of the country for Technicolor web sites, but I think there’s sufficient distributed bandwidth that will defeat any coordinated attempt at a kill switch. And this doesn’t count any of the 100s of multinational countries with their own intranets and gateways to the world. Do you think Goldman is going to shut down its money network just because Uncle Sam gets scared? |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 28 21:09:55 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:35:26 2011. There's one problem SMAZ... this revolt isn't done by Islamists.. its done by the Youth tired of being oppressed tired of having the same leader since the 70s and even the Brotherhood the Islamist opposition, they're last actual terrorist attack that they were involved in was in the 1960s and they're moderate by most measures. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 28 21:17:22 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 28 21:09:55 2011. Yeah, but this is being watched very carefully by countries like Iran who are ready to send an ayotollah to take advantage of the situation. |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 28 21:18:16 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jan 28 16:35:26 2011. Hell has frozen over as IAWTP wholeheartedly!!! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Fri Jan 28 21:20:35 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 28 21:17:22 2011. You are correct. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:22:21 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by johnl on Fri Jan 28 21:03:38 2011. Heh. Something to be said indeed for "know your hard IP." DNS' are just so wimpy. :) |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 28 21:24:39 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 28 21:17:22 2011. True but the West has Elbaradei there and he was already Water Cannoned and people were protecting him from the police. So... time will tell, these people are angry and we as the US need to look at ourselves and our willingness to support or turn away from oppressive regimes. If these dominoes continue to fall... but democracy (like in Tunisia) can blossom and we can forge good relations with them then we slowly choke off the reasons that Al Qaeda and Hezbollah exist. Combine that with perhaps a peace treaty with Israel and Syria in the Golan Heights and you might be able to start bringing stability to the Middle East. There's potential here... but Iran is nervous too, if this becomes a wildfire you know that Iran will get swept. Those protestors that were beaten back before won't go down so easily . |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:25:50 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 28 21:17:22 2011. Absolutely ... but it looks like the revelers will have none of that either. In fact, from what I'm aware of, Iran had better be watching their OWN back right now ... there's even bigger crowds of pissed off people there ... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:28:54 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jan 28 21:18:16 2011. "What a revolting development THIS is." :)
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 21:29:28 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:28:54 2011. lol |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:31:12 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 21:29:28 2011. "Life of Riley" was a favorite back in the 50's. :) |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 28 21:31:34 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jan 28 17:12:44 2011. Uhhh you don't read well... this was organized by youths with NO affiliation... |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jan 28 21:31:34 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:31:12 2011. yeah !: ) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jan 28 21:35:16 2011, in response to Re: Egypt Revolts!, posted by ClearAspect on Fri Jan 28 21:31:34 2011. Talk raydeeo sez differnt. And they know a hell of a lot more about what's going on than us rubes. :) |
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