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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 08:19:55 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 00:41:54 2010. I'm trying to find a religion that espouses this point of view but all I can come up with is the Church of the Almighty Dollar :Pyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 08:20:06 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 05:23:01 2010. Weehawkin, NJ. 8-) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 08:22:21 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 05:23:01 2010. Baghdad! LOLyour pal, Fred |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 08:26:45 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 05:03:11 2010. But if Churches no longer existed and people stopped believing in Christmas and the holiday no longer existed then eventually the gift buying would fade awayHeck - I would SAVE a lot of money not buying gifts for relatives kids any more!!!! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 08:28:49 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 08:22:21 2010. ROFLMAO! The 52nd State |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 1 09:02:38 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 06:24:13 2010. Many militant atheists think that part of their role in life is to mock religion. Just like many militant religious people think it is their role in life to try to make others feel that their religion or lack thereof will lead to eternal suffering.I think both camps are fools but are entitled to their freedom of speech. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 09:09:02 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 1 09:02:38 2010. Do you get the feeling that the American Atheists won't be in their office on Christmas Day? I do. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 09:17:31 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 1 09:02:38 2010. yes,that is correct. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 09:20:03 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 1 09:02:38 2010. Just like many militant religiousI was reading about some of the torture devices and techniques used during Medieval times. Man. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 09:37:06 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 09:09:02 2010. Most businesses ARE closed on Xmas. Also Xmas falls on a Saturday this year. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Dec 1 10:00:32 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Dec 1 06:17:34 2010. Would it make a lot of sense for the picture to show Judah Macabee in battle gear and claim that he was a myth?No, because the Maccabees really did defeat the Greeks, leading to the Hasmonean dynasty over Judea. It would make more sense for the picture to show the Menorah, suggesting that the miracle of the oil lasting for eight days was a myth. I also believe that Jesus walked the earth and had a loyal following. I also think he said many great and wise things and was a good and noble man in a very bad time for the Jewish people. I just don't believe he was any more divine than Moses or King David. Sorry. IMO, Jesus intended for something similar to Chabad, and it was Paul who started the Yechi movement. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Dec 1 10:01:20 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Dec 1 06:50:13 2010. Crikey |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Dec 1 10:07:31 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 30 23:19:07 2010. They are attacking Christianity because it's an easy target. Inclusion of Islam and Judaism leaves them open to accusations of being Islamophobic or anti-Semitic. You know that.The fact that Dave Silverman is the President of American Atheists probably has something to do with it too. He could've included other religions in such a diverse part of the country. Look at the shape of the star. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 10:11:14 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 08:26:45 2010. I seriously doubt Christmas would ever go away. The gift buying frenzy has little or nothing to do with the actual religion. It does however have everything to do with the Church of the Almighty Dollar.So...the spirit of the atheists' billboard is indeed correct. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 10:12:41 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 09:20:03 2010. What ya catch a stock? LOL you don't have to tell.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Dec 1 10:19:03 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Dec 1 10:00:32 2010. "It would make more sense for the picture to show the Menorah, suggesting that the miracle of the oil lasting for eight days was a myth."That is a very good point but in the Hanukkah liturgy, the miracle is actually composed of two parts - the Maccabee victory over far superior military forces and the menorah oil burning for eight days. But as far as "myths" are concerned, you are correct, the menorah story would be more likely deemed a myth, as the Maccabee victory is historically verifiable, relatively speaking. |
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The Star of David? (Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Dec 1 10:26:50 2010, in response to Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 30 22:21:11 2010. In looking at the photo of the billboard again, I noticed that the star in the sky heralding Jesus' birth looks like a six pointed Star of David (with a tail, signifying the star's rise).Is there anything in the New Testament to suggest that the star that rose was a Star of David? Or is just these nasty atheists taking a shot at Jews too? |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 10:29:48 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Dec 1 10:00:32 2010. i feel like it a out how i feel about all religion. people can believe anything they want, but the Bible was written by a bunch of drunks cooped up in a room somewhere, some in various states of mental stability. we have 'prophets' today too...but today we call them 'nuts'. just imagine how 'Jesus' would be looked at the corner of 7th and 31st...or 'Abraham' at Union Square....or 'Moses' walking through a subway car professing about the stone he is carrying. Yes, we see 'biblical' figures every day in the presesnt too...and if we had the mentality of fourth world countries and no technology today, they would be written about in 'scrpture' too.... |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 10:40:43 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 10:11:14 2010. yes, its safe to say that 80% or better aren't thinking the least bit religiously for what happens all this month as they wall around the mall humming 'jingle bell rock' walking trough the mall under a flying sled with flying reindeer with red noses hanging from the ceiling while some fat guy witha red velvet suit screams, 'hohoho'. The 'christmas most celebrate in this country is a secular holiday invented by early 1900's retailers (many of them jewish). |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 10:41:36 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Dave on Wed Dec 1 06:15:13 2010. ROTFLMAO!!!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 10:58:03 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 06:55:15 2010. What the atheists believe is that the Christian Origin Story is a myth. Since atheism is entirely the belief that religion is based on myth, there is NO way not to mock you apparently. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 10:58:48 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 06:56:52 2010. There are still more churches than mosques or synagogues. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 10:59:29 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 06:59:09 2010. Yes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:00:08 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 07:29:15 2010. Once again, it's not about courage it's about effectiveness. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:03:00 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 07:59:36 2010. Hypocrites. Religious displays never spark outrage. In the event they do, Christians bring out their fake persecution. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:04:47 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 06:55:15 2010. It is ridiculous and intellectually honest Christians know it. It is a hopeless cause to defend your intellectually dishonest (or failing that stupid, or failing that detached from reality) brethren from the ridicule they are inviting upon themselves. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:05:00 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 08:26:45 2010. This is false.Look at how Jews often give gifts for Chanukah. We've already established that like a child you only do things because you're told and not because it's right or anything. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:06:20 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Dec 1 09:37:06 2010. LOL! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:10:04 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Dec 1 10:19:03 2010. The military victory isn't such a big deal since such victories are relatively common. They seem to happen to Israel a lot. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:13:27 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 09:09:02 2010. 1) Christmas Day is a federal and state holiday. There's not much point in anyone else going to work either.2) Most office workers aren't in their offices on Saturdays anyway. There's this thing called the weekend. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:14:09 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 10:29:48 2010. I'm pretty sure some of these prophets were lucky enough to have had their prophecy coincide with then unexplained phenomena, which caused people to believe they were right.Nowadays if someone predicts an eclipse, then we dismiss that as someone who knows how to read an almanac or Google "eclipse schedule." |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:15:41 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:14:09 2010. I'm pretty sure some of these prophets were lucky enough to have had their prophecy coincide with then unexplained phenomena, which caused people to believe they were right.I'm pretty sure people wrote histories in suitably obscure and flowery language after the event and then ascribed their works to semi-mythical soothsayers of a few centuries beforehand. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 11:16:34 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:05:00 2010. And you feel that the only way to convince people that your nonbelief is correct is to belittle them personally! |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:16:40 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Nov 30 23:07:52 2010. Oh yes it is. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:17:55 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Dec 1 10:07:31 2010. Now that's just silly. The Jewish religion does not have a patent on 60° angles. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:20:02 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Dec 1 10:40:43 2010. Yes, and as a non-religious cultural phenomenon, I love Christmas. :-D |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:21:13 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 1 05:03:11 2010. Stop channeling Tom Lehrer at me... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:23:04 2010, in response to The Star of David? (Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Dec 1 10:26:50 2010. EXCELLENT!There's also a Muslim connection: People who are dumb enough not to realize that Islam is newer than Christianity will assume the guys on their dromedaries are Muslim because you know people from Arabia are all Muslim now. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 11:24:13 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:14:09 2010. Yes. You seem to basically agree with my post. How I see it, we don't have many "prophets" today because we have much better technology to explain things. They didn't have that luxury. But we still cling to the writings they wrote, which is mind baffling to me. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:25:49 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:15:41 2010. Yeah, but there's no doubt that there were some people who were recognized as prophets in their lifetimes by at least some people, even if the writings about them are inaccurate. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 11:26:14 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:20:02 2010. I agree. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Dec 1 11:27:51 2010, in response to The Star of David? (Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Dec 1 10:26:50 2010. The "star" always looks like that. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 11:28:32 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:23:04 2010. You watched the video I embedded. It was made clear that Christians are being called out. That's a quote. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:28:58 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:25:49 2010. In any case there is the notable example of Joseph Smith who lived in a far more technologically-oriented time than most prophets.To a lesser extent L. Ron Hubbard in terms of prophet-ness but to a greater extent in terms of technology. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:30:33 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Nov 30 23:44:57 2010. You are seriously dumb if you need that ad explaining to you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:31:00 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 11:16:34 2010. No, I just feel like it because I consider your beliefs offensive. I know I'll never convince you. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Dec 1 11:33:18 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 11:28:32 2010. Um yeah. I was just responding to the claim that the star is a Shout Out or Take That to Judaism. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:33:26 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 1 01:49:50 2010. Not necessarily. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 1 11:37:10 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:30:33 2010. I'd like to know where that ad ran. As a banner ad on some obscure website?An ad featuring the target of a terrorist attack is much different than one mocking the nativity scene. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Dec 1 11:38:00 2010, in response to Re: Atheist Billboard At Lincoln Tunnel Approach, posted by BMTLines on Wed Dec 1 01:03:17 2010. And how many Churches preach those stories as real?That doesn't sound like a very sound basis for religious belief. |
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