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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:42:43 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 12:40:50 2010.

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Most just think it's a funny sport, no different than Europeans (and other Soccer countries) that find American football hilarious.

Bad example. American football is practically non-existent is Europe.
OTOH soccer is widely played, followed and talked about in America and the success in the last 20 or so years of the National Team, the viability of a decent pro league and the construction of expensive soccer-specific stadiums demonstrates that.
It's obviously not as popular as American football and baseball (nor do they try to be) but the comparison with American football in Europe is risible.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:50:59 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 20 07:38:25 2010.

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LOL, "the Cosmos". I used to know a few people that used to go to Cosmos games at Giant Stadium.....the were all foreign born.

Yes, in the 70's and early 80's a lot of the Cosmo fanbase was foreign-born or first generation American. That was then. You are stuck on 1970s talking-points. Everything has changed since then (in large part because of the legions of American youngsters that got hooked to soccer thanks to teams like the Cosmos or the Rowdies) and have passed it on. I was one of those youngsters.
People younger than me, got hooked when the US Team started qualifying for World Cup and because of USA '94. Those younger still got hooked after our incredible run in 2002 and other positive results by the men and women's teams alike.
It's not the '70s anymore.



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Re: Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 03:23:24 2010, in response to Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:35:47 2010.

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Likely the worst nickname in sports history.

There is an obscure soccer team in Thailand called the Thailand Tobacco Monopoly.
That had got to be the most depressing name for a club anywhere in the world.



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Re: France refuse to train (Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 03:25:10 2010, in response to France refuse to train (Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Easy on Sun Jun 20 16:45:41 2010.

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Not a game. Not a game. We be talking about..........practice.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 07:14:50 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:50:59 2010.

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You are different because you lived in a European country for a while. It effected you more than people that haven't.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 07:15:33 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 01:42:43 2010.

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Of course it's non existent there, they laugh their asses off at it.

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Re: Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 21 12:23:11 2010, in response to Re: Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 03:23:24 2010.

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Why, would "Opium Monopoly" be more upbeat . . . ?

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 17:28:02 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 07:14:50 2010.

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I was already into soccer before moving to Italy (and yes it was the Cosmos that got me into it).

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Re: Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 17:36:04 2010, in response to Re: Kaka (Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 21 12:23:11 2010.

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Why, would "Opium Monopoly" be more upbeat . . . ?

That would be a funny name.


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 19:13:07 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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That's 49-0 for you American football people.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by cortelyounext on Mon Jun 21 19:16:38 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 19:13:07 2010.

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That's 49-0 for you American football people.

... and for you dog lovers. No pun intended.


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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by 9 local on Mon Jun 21 19:44:29 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 19:13:07 2010.

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And apparently, although the last game was not televised in North Korea, this one was. Bad timing, I guess. Now Kim Jong Ir (I'm so ronrey, so ronery) has another country to take up arms against.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:02:46 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 17:28:02 2010.

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1st Generation Immigrants: Way into soccer
2nd Generation Immigrants: Into it, but much less than their parents
3rd Generation Immigrants: Not so much.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:04:07 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 19:13:07 2010.

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A bore to watch a game when teams are unevenly matched.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:10:35 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:04:07 2010.

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A bore to watch a game when teams are unevenly matched.


I agree. However NK only lost 2-1 to Brazil in their first match.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:11:33 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:10:35 2010.

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Any bets on whether or not the members of the NK team will be killed upon their return to NK?

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by 9 local on Mon Jun 21 23:13:09 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:11:33 2010.

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They made the World Cup for the first time since 1966. I doubt Kim Jong Il would do that when the Asian Games are coming up and this North Korean team has a shot at qualifying.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:16:38 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by 9 local on Mon Jun 21 23:13:09 2010.

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I'd like to agree with you. But logic and reason don't always apply to Kim Jong Il.

Case and point:


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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:40:27 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:02:46 2010.

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Incorrect.
First generation immigrants from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, Dominican Republic, Cuba and other places could care less about soccer. That'a big chunk of American immigration right there.

Their kids are more into it than they are.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 23:43:33 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:40:27 2010.

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Well, have you seen the ratings? World Cup is averaging 3,500,000 viewers on ESPN. That's up 50% or so since 2006. Not bad.



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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:44:21 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:40:27 2010.

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Their kids are more into it than they are.


I doubt it.

And I didn't say all immagrants like soccer (there are countries like the US where it's meaningless), but from those countries that do, the generation thing fits.



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:44:59 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:10:35 2010.

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Who the heck would get any satisfaction from a game as ridiculous as 49-0? You may as well watch paint dry.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:45:25 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 23:43:33 2010.

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No. It's better if you're on the East Coast where the games come on at a semi-reasonable time. Waking up at 4 in the morning to watch soccer isn't something I'll do.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:46:31 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:44:59 2010.

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I mean 7-0 literally, but you get the picture.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 23:48:59 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:44:59 2010.

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49-0?,

lol. That's classic.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:50:41 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 23:48:59 2010.

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Well, you think about it. That's what it'd be like if it was converted to NFL type scoring.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:56:55 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 23:48:59 2010.

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Yes, and that's what it is translated to in football terms. What kind of boring game would 49-0 in football be? Torture to watch.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by SMAZ on Mon Jun 21 23:57:08 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:11:33 2010.

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But they won. They WON!!



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by 9 local on Tue Jun 22 00:01:52 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:56:55 2010.

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I saw 41-0 Jets over Colts. That was really fun to watch!

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:03:18 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Jun 21 23:56:55 2010.

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I've attended two like that before (both in 2003).

Box Score (Final)
#13 LSU vs Arizona Wildcats (Sep 06, 2003 at Tucson, Ariz.)

Score by Quarters 1 2 3 4 Score
----------------- -- -- -- -- -----
LSU................. 17 21 7 14 - 59 Record: (2-0)
Arizona Wildcats.... 0 0 0 13 - 13 Record: (1-1)

11-15-03 SOUTHERN CAL LOST 0-45



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 22 00:03:32 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by 9 local on Tue Jun 22 00:01:52 2010.

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I've seen countless football games that were really fun to watch.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jun 22 00:04:13 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Mon Jun 21 23:11:33 2010.

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The sad part is that I don't know if you're joking or not...

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 22 00:06:47 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 22 00:03:32 2010.

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Of course, but they aren't fun when it's some huge score to zero. It's boring when there's no challenge. I find soccer incredibly boring to begin with, but when it's one team beating the hell out of the other, it's even more unwatchable.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:06:48 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 22 00:03:32 2010.

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As have I. In fact, most football games that I've attended have been fun to watch. Maybe it's because I really like football.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 22 00:08:02 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:06:48 2010.

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Any football game I have been to has been fun to watch. But then again, I have never been to one in person where one team had like 7 touchdowns more than the other.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:11:29 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 22 00:08:02 2010.

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Again, I went to 2 in 2003 (my freshman year at Arizona). We had HOME games against USC and LSU. Both USC and LSU ended up being "co" National Champions that year.



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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 22 00:15:29 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Mon Jun 21 23:43:33 2010.

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Yeah and it's still the first round (and at crazy hours on weekdays). Those numbers also don't include Univision and ESPN3. I wonder how they count people in mass settings (bars, plazas, etc).
It's a good thing to see. I was surprised myself.
ESPN/ABC's investment is paying off.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:17:56 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 22 00:15:29 2010.

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I know a lot of places that still don't have cable. Univision is a godsend for that. Only problem is that the game is in Spanish.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread

Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 22 00:20:38 2010, in response to WORLD CUP Thread, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 11 07:56:22 2010.

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South America teams are undefeated so far. 8 wins and 2 draws. Wow!

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 00:21:02 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:17:56 2010.

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Yes. And Univision is not allowed to SAP in English, unfortunately.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:23:04 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 00:21:02 2010.

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That sucks. I'd LOVE to watch Univision SAP in English.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 00:26:31 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:23:04 2010.

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Univision has done SAP for Mexican Televisa telenovelas.

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Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread)

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 00:27:19 2010, in response to Re: Florida Marlins Making A Buzz(Re: WORLD CUP Thread), posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 00:26:31 2010.

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Nice. I can watch a Telenovela in English. I've got to try that sometime.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With

Posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 22 00:58:52 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF!!!, posted by SMAZ on Fri Jun 18 11:57:27 2010.

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Embattled ref to miss upcoming matches

By Martin Rogers, Yahoo! Sports

PRETORIA, South Africa – Controversial referee Koman Coulibaly was left off FIFA’s list for the next batch of World Cup matches following the error that likely cost the United States a victory against Slovenia.

Yahoo! Sports revealed on Friday that Coulibaly was “highly unlikely” to take any further part in the tournament after being given a poor evaluation by assessors following his decision to disallow Maurice Edu’s 85th-minute goal. FIFA confirmed Sunday that Coulibaly will not play any part in Tuesday or Wednesday’s matches, which will include the USA’s critical Group C finale against Algeria.

Instead, as they step into the arena of Loftus Versfeld Stadium on Wednesday with their World Cup life at stake, the Americans will be officiated by a man who has just witnessed a combat far more brutal than any game in the tournament.

Belgian referee Frank De Bleeckere will prepare himself for the occasion by watching a DVD of the movie “Gladiator” before taking center stage in a game that decides the USA’s destiny – with a victory guaranteed to put the Americans through to the round of 16.

FIFA deliberately assigned De Bleeckere, a highly experienced and respected referee, to this game in response to the storm of controversy that came after the United States’ 2-2 draw with Slovenia. De Bleeckere has been in charge of big matches many times in the past, most notably a Champions League clash between Chelsea and Barcelona in 2006 which came a year after a pair of explosive matches between those European super clubs.

“I don’t look at reputation or anything that has gone before,” De Bleeckere said. “I will watch the previous games of USA and Algeria to help me understand their tactics and work on my positioning. But I will watch ‘Gladiator’ first.”

Referees at the tournament have come under heavy criticism after a series of bad calls compounded by a stubborn refusal to explain their actions publicly.

On Monday, the FIFA referee committee tried to go on a charm offensive by inviting the media to an open day but totally defeated the object of the exercise by refusing to answer questions about specific decisions.

Neither Coulibaly nor Stephane Lannoy – the French referee who erred in sending off Brazil’s Kaka against the Ivory Coast on Sunday – were present. Coulibaly’s assistant, Inacio Candido of Angola, was in attendance.

When asked if the controversy following the Edu no-goal had affected Coulibaly, Candido replied: “A referee is like a player. When they lose an opportunity to score a goal, they put it behind them.”



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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With

Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 01:04:04 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With, posted by SMAZ on Tue Jun 22 00:58:52 2010.

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Expect backlash against our team, as a result of this.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 01:04:24 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 01:04:04 2010.

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Yep, unfortunately.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With

Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 22 01:08:54 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With, posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jun 22 01:04:04 2010.

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No, most everyone agreed that the ref was poor.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With

Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 01:11:18 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With, posted by Easy on Tue Jun 22 01:08:54 2010.

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Doesn't mean there won't be anti-American backlash.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With

Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 22 01:19:20 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: REEF THE REF! Piece of Garbage Probably Done With, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Tue Jun 22 01:11:18 2010.

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People do hate America so you might be right, but I don't think so.

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Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 22 06:47:35 2010, in response to Re: WORLD CUP Thread: Portugal beats North Korea 7-0, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jun 22 00:06:47 2010.

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Of course. You're completely correct.

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