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Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Dec 4 13:29:09 2024 In an apparent targeted attack, the UnitedHealthcare CEO was gunned down in "broad daylight" in midtown Manhattan. The actor is at large.Here |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Wed Dec 4 13:43:29 2024, in response to Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Dec 4 13:29:09 2024. Yep |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 4 14:45:15 2024, in response to Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Dec 4 13:29:09 2024. I heard. Speculation out there that this was a professional hit. Three kill shots to the chest from about 50 yards with the gunman wearing a backpack containing a change of clothes. Then he hops on a Citibank bike and disappears into Central Park. Smooth and well planned execution. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 14:47:35 2024, in response to Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Dec 4 13:29:09 2024. Well it was still kind of dark but definitely not in darkness of the night.Wearing a mask on a cold day helps avoid suspicion. NYPD still hasn't caught the guys who vandalized a church statue in Fresh Meadows even though they have clear images of their faces. That said this guy had a clear getaway plan but technology will catch up to him. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 4 15:05:50 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 14:47:35 2024. Did they ever catch the migrant who stole the gold 9/11 tribute rose from the 9/11 church?Do they catch most of the hate crimes that occur? so on and so on. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 15:07:11 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 4 14:45:15 2024. The CEO was crossing the street from his hotel to another hotel where he was to attend an investors meeting. The assassin was waiting.I wonder if the assassin used a subway at any point in his arrival or getaway? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 4 15:09:28 2024, in response to Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Dec 4 13:29:09 2024. “I’m afraid that some of you may know we’re dealing with a very serious medical situation with one of our team members, and as a result I’m afraid we’re going to have to bring to a close the event today, which I apologize for,” UnitedHealth CEO Andrew Witty said at the conference, STAT News reported. “I’m sure you understand. We’re going to go offline now from the broadcast. We’ll share with you an alternative mechanism to update you. I apologize for bringing things to a close, but I hope you’ll understand.”Is the official statement after it occured during the conference. I have to stay, the head of the Hudsucker Corporation had better statements than modern day corporate America. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 15:20:41 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 4 15:05:50 2024. One interesting thing is the body type of the shooter.He is about 5'10 170. Slender runners build. That is the build you want to pull off something like this and getaway. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 4 15:48:17 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 15:20:41 2024. I keep seeing descriptions in the news of "hitmen" that aren't that build, and don't get away, and miss their aim.At least 2 so called hitmen in the news locally in the last month in some diverse cities. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 16:11:04 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Dec 4 15:48:17 2024. Another thing about the shooter, he is dressed for winter, minus his feet.He looks like he is wearing comfortable grey Nike RN's for the getaway. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 4 18:09:41 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 15:07:11 2024. Probably subway to get there and after changing clothes and ditching the bike in Central Park, get on a subway at CPW. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 19:11:32 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 4 18:09:41 2024. NYPD released more photos.The suspect has a very Protestant nose. He also has big long hands like a quarterback. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 4 20:18:30 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 19:11:32 2024. This guy sounds like a big league professional. Not the kind who advertises his services on Craigslist. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 20:39:37 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 4 20:18:30 2024. I think he could be a vigilante who did this on his own. Similar to the Unabomber but targeting health care.But he did something stupid. He went to a nearby Starbucks and bought water and power bars. Now police have better photos of him from Starbucks videos. He is white and seems northern European. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 4 20:41:35 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 19:11:32 2024. What does a protestant nose look like?? If a Protestant converts to Catholicism, does the nose change??? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Dec 4 20:48:47 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 20:39:37 2024. I think he could be a vigilante who did this on his own.Sure, it's possible. But: - He had a silencer. - He knew that his victim was going to attend the conference and was staying at a different hotel, so that he'd have to enter the Hilton from the outside. - He obviously had an excellent idea of what his victim looked like. - He aimed well, from a distance. Sounds more like a well-paid professional to me. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 20:53:23 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Dec 4 20:41:35 2024. Narrow and pointy. Preppie. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 21:03:03 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Wed Dec 4 20:48:47 2024. The fact that he knew where the CEO would be is the best evidence of a professional hit. And he killed him walking from his hotel to the investor meeting.My guess is that anyone can find out where the annual shareholders meeting is. Especially a shareholder. It's not unusual to stay at a different nearby hotel for different reasons. Mainly to create space between himself and other attendees. Looking at video the assassin is about 5 yards from his target. Maybe 10. That is close. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 5 00:35:08 2024, in response to Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Dec 4 13:29:09 2024. Not to worry. Crime is down in NY City. This will be recorded as a misdemeanor murder so it won't even count |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 06:59:39 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Dec 4 21:03:03 2024. I stand corrected, though. The messages on the bullet suggest a professional (ex-military) with a grudge, not a for-hire killer. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 11:02:44 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 06:59:39 2024. That's the title of a book about insurance denial tactics.This is someone with, or a loved one with a medical problem which the insurer denied care. United Healthcare is the leader in claim denial. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 11:09:46 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 11:02:44 2024. The title seems more apt to Allstate or someone else. UHC doesn't even use it's own money for almost all of it's claims.But you wanted single payer. Guess who will run and operate it? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Dec 5 11:28:13 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 11:02:44 2024. Two experts, back to back. What are your predictions for the 2028 presidential race? |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 11:32:13 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 11:09:46 2024. You clearly have no experience with this.Standard Medicare is straight fee-for-service. It's the only scheme that actually works for all patients. Part B does not cover 100%. Nor does Part D. Private insurance can fill in that gap, and if this coverage was available to all, profitably. Probably VERY profitably. One of the biggest problems with insurance as it exists is networks. When someone needs to seek services out-of-network (the source of many denials), they'll likely have little to no coverage. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 5 11:44:49 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 06:59:39 2024. He wasnt that professional. Its coming out that he stopped at a nearby Starbucks before the shooting. Ordered a coffee and a snack then went out to do the deed. They got him on surveillance videos in there. Cops were all over nearby trash containers looking for a coffee cup and snack wrapper for DNA. A professional wouldn't do that. Get in, shoot then get out would be the way to go. Forget the Starbucks |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 5 12:34:21 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 5 11:44:49 2024. He looks very WASPy.Can't wait to see his name. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 5 12:36:26 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 5 12:34:21 2024. Biff Wellington. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 12:42:29 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 5 11:44:49 2024. Yeah, if he did leave DNA behind he was way less professional than it seemed to begin with.They have identified the hostel where he stayed the previous night - New York International Hostel at 103rd and Amsterdam. But they also have video of him exiting the subway at 57th and 6th, which is only the F. Odd. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 13:03:33 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 11:32:13 2024. I have a lot more experience than you. And you still can't figure out how it works.Medicare has no cap. It will bankrupt you. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 13:07:28 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 12:42:29 2024. They are only looking so quickly because the victim is male, white, and rich.Otherwise it would be unsolved. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 13:09:07 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 13:03:33 2024. No, you don't. You know nothing about me. You are not talking from a point of personal experience.Healthcare needs have no cap either. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 13:15:25 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 13:03:33 2024. Medicare has no cap. It will bankrupt you.Have you heard about Medigap insurance? It's a good thing to have. For under $100 per month, I have an out of pocket maximum of under $3000. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 5 13:20:48 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 12:42:29 2024. 57/6 is closest to the crime scene so it makes sense. |
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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Dec 5 14:02:33 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 11:32:13 2024. Welcome back. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 5 14:25:43 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 13:07:28 2024. I don't think so. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 5 14:28:35 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 5 13:20:48 2024. Also he might have left the hostel so early to execute his plan, GO'S might have changed his route. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 14:37:23 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Dec 5 14:25:43 2024. In all seriousness, it's because he's a CEO. NY is full of CEO's. Their companies all are based in other states, and their employees are all based in other states, but the CEO for some reason has to have a NY address and live far away from work.Or they come for investors conferences. This is all about $ If this was in the Bronx, or a Jew in Brooklyn, there would be no manhunt. Do you know the rate of solved murders today? Barely half. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 14:56:20 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Dec 5 13:20:48 2024. Hardly; the Starbucks is at 53rd and 6th. And going to 57/6 from 103/Amsterdam makes no sense. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 14:59:19 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 14:37:23 2024. The victim lived in Minnesota, not NY. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 15:19:46 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 14:59:19 2024. No shit shirlock. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 15:20:59 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 13:09:07 2024. You see what I mean. You don't even have a clue after all thsese years.Bonus material. 
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 15:22:30 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 13:15:25 2024. I wonder how many people are smart enough to do Part C (a Bush innovation, or was that only D? I don't recall and don't care enough to look it up).I have a feeling in 20 years, no one will be smart enough to do so. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 15:43:08 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 15:20:59 2024. Gaza has nothing to do with this. Stop gaslighting. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 15:59:02 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 15:22:30 2024. Part C is an HMO. That's the kind of plan where all these insurance company denials take place.Part B (with medigap) is somewhat more expensive, but you don't have to fight denials all the time. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 16:34:09 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 15:59:02 2024. Medicgaps don't cover prescriptions. A secondary PartD policy is necessary to cover those. Adds to the expense. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 16:57:04 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 16:34:09 2024. Agreed. Wasn't thinking that Medicare Advantage covers prescriptions too. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 17:23:38 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 15:43:08 2024. It doesn't?I should go on the reddit or the twitter. I'm sure gaza is mentioned. It always is. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 17:26:26 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by AlM on Thu Dec 5 16:57:04 2024. Surprisingly, most do. To a point. They use their formulary. Things fall through the cracks. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 17:28:47 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by bingbong on Thu Dec 5 17:26:26 2024. Which part covers Obama's famous "pain pills"? |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Thu Dec 5 18:20:40 2024, in response to Re: Health Care CEO Fatally Shot, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Dec 5 14:37:23 2024. There ABSOLUTELY would be a manhunt. In fact, Police Headquarters would make that a priority. |
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