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Nikki for president!!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Dec 28 20:59:28 2023

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1476449496247038

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023, in response to Nikki for president!!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Dec 28 20:59:28 2023.

You really know how to pick them.

Nikki Haley defends leaving slavery out as cause of Civil War after backlash

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nikki-haley-fails-to-mention-slavery-when-asked-about-cause-of-civil-war-new-hampshire-town-hall/

Plus many more links.

There are two important points.

The obvious one is that she was unprepared to answer an unexpected but easy question. Perhaps, presidential candidates should be required to pass a civics test. I doubt she would have received any points for that answer on a NYS High School American History Regents Test.

The more troubling point is her attempt to shift the blame from herself to Democrats. From the linked article:

Haley said on Thursday she thought the questioner was "definitely" planted by Democrats to trip her up.

"The same reason he didn't tell the reporters what his name was, the same reason he went and showed the guy that he was with the tweet that went up after he did it," Haley said. "We see these guys when they come in, we know what they're doing."


That's the wrong attitude in a leader. She's obviously not heeding Mayor LaGuardia's attitude: "When I make a mistake it's a beaut."

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Dec 29 19:13:27 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023.

I'm still holding out hope that Kristi Noem will run.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Dec 29 19:37:31 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023.



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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by rkba on Fri Dec 29 19:53:45 2023, in response to Nikki for president!!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Thu Dec 28 20:59:28 2023.

nimarata is a warmonger who would love to send your kids to die in a war so she can make a few bucks.

she's just as disgusting as dick cheney.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 29 19:54:01 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023.

She did not defend slavery you idiot.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 29 21:17:52 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by rkba on Fri Dec 29 19:53:45 2023.

American military strength=world peace.

American military weakness=disorder and chaos

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 30 02:37:56 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023.

Ouch, that was quite a gaffe.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 30 02:38:51 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Dec 29 21:17:52 2023.

IAWTP

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 12:15:30 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Dec 29 19:13:27 2023.

I'm still holding out hope that Kristi Noem will run.

The governor of another Republican rotten borough.

South Dakota's statistics are not all that remarkable.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/stats_of_the_states.htm

Noem has been governor since 2019. Use this link to compare SD to other states between 2019 and the latest available year. There's very little difference between SD and NYS, that would justify your opinion of her performance.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 12:17:41 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Chicagomotorman on Fri Dec 29 19:54:01 2023.

She did not defend slavery you idiot.

I gather you are among those that needs every dot connected.

Here's an explanation, in the medium you seem to prefer.



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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 12:44:16 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 12:15:30 2023.

Those are health statistics. I am focusing on jobs, and South Dakota has been a smashing success with 20,000 current job openings - in a state with a population of under a million. You're not going to see anything remotely like that in New York.

Latest South Dakota jobs ad.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 13:34:20 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 12:44:16 2023.

I am focusing on jobs, and South Dakota has been a smashing success with 20,000 current job openings - in a state with a population of under a million. You're not going to see anything remotely like that in New York.

A worker in SD is: 3 times more likely to commit suicide; nearly 3 times more likely to be killed by a firearm; and 4 times as likely to be an alcoholic. They have more job openings because their workers don't last. :=)

A better measure than job openings would be comparing the year-to-year employment-to-population ratio.

Here's a link to that table:

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/srgune.t02.htm

You will note that SD remained constant from 2021 to 2022 at 66.8, whereas NYS increased from 55.3 to 57.7. The US increase was 1.6, so NYS' 2.4 increase isn't shabby. It's better than FL's 2.1, another of your model states.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 13:43:41 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 12:44:16 2023.

Those are health statistics. I am focusing on jobs

Everything matters.

Jobs (pay, difficulty, and enjoyability of the work), affordability, health care, weather, stuff to do, education (if you have kids).

And of course different people give different weights to those factors.

So I personally love Manhattan because it gives me all of those* except good affordable education, which doesn't affect me. But others obviously have a different point of view.

* I admit to being very fortunate in terms of my situation being affordable.



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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 14:00:53 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 13:34:20 2023.

A better measure than job openings would be comparing the year-to-year employment-to-population ratio.
Here's a link to that table:
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/srgune.t02.htm
You will note that SD remained constant from 2021 to 2022 at 66.8, whereas NYS increased from 55.3 to 57.7. The US increase was 1.6, so NYS' 2.4 increase isn't shabby. It's better than FL's 2.1, another of your model states.


Yes, it's good that New York's ratio has increased at a decent clip, though some of that is bounce back from the 2021's low ratio that was obviously a result of Covid. And New York is still lower than most states outside the South.* I'll admit that the trends are at least in the right direction.

* = IDK why some southern states are low

A worker in SD is: 3 times more likely to commit suicide; nearly 3 times more likely to be killed by a firearm; and 4 times as likely to be an alcoholic

I suspect that has something to do with the rural character of much of the state. The higher firearms death rate and presumably the suicide rate result from the fact that firearms are a much bigger part of people's lives.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 14:37:00 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 14:00:53 2023.

The higher firearms death rate and presumably the suicide rate result from the fact that firearms are a much bigger part of people's lives.

Which is why I can't comprehend why many Second Amendment enthusiasts can't at least get behind mandatory gun safety training.

Cars are very dangerous and a huge part of almost everyone's lives, but per hour of use they are very safe. Guns could be so much safer per hour of use than they actually are.




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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 30 14:58:26 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 14:37:00 2023.

Easy solution, If we had mandatory voter training we could train them to correctly vote for such things.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 15:01:28 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 14:37:00 2023.

Gun suicides are more common than gun homicides. Safety training won't help

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:06:06 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 12:17:41 2023.

ALL TOGETHER NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:08:53 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023.

She blamed a flag on the for the murder of nine people. WTF more do you want?

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:09:11 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 29 19:09:05 2023.

She blamed a flag for the murder of nine people. WTF more do you want?

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:10:54 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Fri Dec 29 19:13:27 2023.

IAWTLP. Damn I love her.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 15:13:35 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 15:01:28 2023.

Gun accidents are a large portion of gun deaths. Safety training can have a huge effect.




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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:13:50 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 12:15:30 2023.

What's wrong? You don't like the fact the she was the only U.S. governor to NOT close down her state, nor force people to wear silly face diapers against their will during the plandemic?

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 15:13:57 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 30 14:58:26 2023.

???

What is your point?



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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 15:15:51 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Peter Rosa on Sat Dec 30 15:01:28 2023.

Also, people who own guns and have mentally unstable family members could be trained to spend a lot more effort keeping their guns secure. That would help reduce suicides a lot (and even help a bit with homicides).





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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:16:09 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Dec 29 19:37:31 2023.

RIP

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Easy on Sat Dec 30 15:20:54 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 15:13:57 2023.

That I agree with you that we could save lives.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:38:58 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 15:15:51 2023.

I could only cast a very reluctant vote for Haley if she somehow
becomes the GOP standard bearer. Of course I would have to do that because the guy in there now is as putrid a president and person as there is. Haley got on my shit list when she refused to mention slavery even once as a cause of the Civil War. She was all over the place with boilerplate answers that were pathetic. Fred to Haley....SLAVERY WAS THE MAIN CAUSE OF THE CIVIL WAR AND IF SHE WOULD PICK UP ANY HISTORY BOOK OF THAT PERIOD SHE WOULD SEE IT IN BLACK AND WHITE.

Now when war broke out the great Lincoln's first agenda was to save the Union, but within a year he quickly came to the conclusion that as part of the rebellion by those filthy Confederate bastards, that slavery had to go as well----which Lincoln came to welcome since he was abnormally anti slavery. After Antietam which I suppose could be considered a Union victory since Lee pulled out and recrossed the Potomac River back into Virginia, Lincoln proclaimed the preliminary Emancipation Proclamation to become final on Jan. 1, 1863, if the South did not lay down arms.

I'm sorry to drone on like this but I know there are people on this board who seem to subscribe to what Haley said. I didn't and don't. She screwed big time.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:41:35 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:38:58 2023.

Slavery was a major reason for the civil war, but not the only reason. And I too would hold my nose to vote for her.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 15:41:50 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Easy on Sat Dec 30 15:20:54 2023.

OK.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:44:43 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by AlM on Sat Dec 30 13:43:41 2023.

Glad to hear you are aware of your fortunate circumstances and it is good to hear things like that from the posters on this board. Unfortunately, in place like New York, out here in Los Angeles, SF, Chi Town, Philly, and many places in the US people are living pay check to pay check, and some have trouble paying rent, buying groceries, getting gas for their car or even finding suitable housing.

Good you're doing fine AIM. Always good to know of people who can be grateful for their good fortune as you and me and my wife are. Just hope I don't get some bad news about that in an hour or so.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:51:25 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:10:54 2023.

I liked her too until I found out that she has been sleeping with someone other than her husband. As a puritan in that regard I find two timing your spouse is about as rotten a thing as there is. What bothers me is that I have heard nothing the past couple of months of anything saying these goings on were bogus.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:55:42 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:51:25 2023.

So she gets around. So what?

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 30 16:36:06 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:41:35 2023.

Confederate-sympathizer.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 30 16:37:26 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:44:43 2023.

There are always people who are less fortunate than others. There are fewer of them now than there used to be.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by 3-9 on Sat Dec 30 16:50:26 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 30 12:17:41 2023.

Too bad. Biden all the way then.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:04:35 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Dec 30 16:36:06 2023.

NOT A DAMN THING WRONG WITH THE RONCONCILLIATION MONUMENT!

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 30 17:14:55 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:51:25 2023.

Was that proven?

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Dec 30 17:15:08 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by #4SeaBeachFred on Sat Dec 30 15:51:25 2023.

OH OH

SHE IS A HO ?

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Dec 30 17:15:39 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:55:42 2023.

ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by rkba on Sat Dec 30 17:16:11 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:55:42 2023.

really, that's your response.

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:19:56 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Dec 30 17:15:39 2023.

figures

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:20:40 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by rkba on Sat Dec 30 17:16:11 2023.

What else should I say?

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Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:21:38 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Sat Dec 30 17:15:08 2023.



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Posted by rkba on Sat Dec 30 17:22:57 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:20:40 2023.

it's a horrible standard to set, even for nimarata warmonger.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:24:11 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by rkba on Sat Dec 30 17:22:57 2023.

Kristi Noem is a war monger?

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Posted by rkba on Sat Dec 30 17:30:22 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:24:11 2023.

noem was irrelevant from the beginning, this is about nimarata.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 17:36:06 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by chicagoMotorman on Sat Dec 30 15:10:54 2023.

Follow the thread.

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Re: Nikki for president!!

Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Dec 30 17:45:25 2023, in response to Re: Nikki for president!!, posted by rkba on Sat Dec 30 17:30:22 2023.

Birdbrain is a non-factor.

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