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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006 Tune to channel 13. |
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Posted by metropod on Sat Oct 28 21:39:41 2006, in response to Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006. it's normal, all it means is your compus will point the other way. happens every so often. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 28 21:55:29 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by metropod on Sat Oct 28 21:39:41 2006. Never heard of it. How often does this happen? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 28 22:28:28 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 28 21:55:29 2006. Every few hundred thousand years ... of course the more amusing point of all this is that the atmosphere kinda thins out during the "flips" and it is that magnetic field that protects us from all that nasty radiation out in space making it all the way to the ground. No aurora borealis when there's a flip ongoing.But not to worry, Homeland Security will create a new department. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Oct 28 22:38:02 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 28 22:28:28 2006. I'm not worried. Look at what being bombarded by cosmic rays did for the fantastic four! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 28 22:43:41 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Easy on Sat Oct 28 22:38:02 2006. Heh. And not to mention "Man-in-the-Moon Marigolds!" :) |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sat Oct 28 22:45:47 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 28 22:43:41 2006. They did report a record ozone hole this year. Which goes with the record hurricanes, snow, rain, drought, and record UV rays in New Zealand.It olympic pole vaulters had this many records since the 1932 olympics, they'd be jumping at least 40 stories high right now instead of just 10 feet or whatever. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Oct 29 00:00:27 2006, in response to Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006. I'm sure the global warmist amoung us have an explanation about this happenning due to "climate changes". |
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Posted by American Pig on Sun Oct 29 01:26:20 2006, in response to Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006. It's an ANTIQUA. I saw it back when it was really NOVA. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Sun Oct 29 07:34:40 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Oct 29 00:00:27 2006. Do a bit more research before posting snide comments, please.Planets' magnetic fields have absolutely nothing to do with their climates. By the way: "Warmist" ought to be plural. There are more people on this board who believe in the existence of climate change than those who don't. As far as I know, there are only two people posting here who refute the existence of global warming. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 12:05:52 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Sun Oct 29 07:34:40 2006. When you're intelligence is limited by talking points, you can make up as many theories as you want. It's actually a good thing. Those types of comments makes one sound so stupid they discredit themselves in front of the general population and get laughed off stage. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Sun Oct 29 12:16:20 2006, in response to Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006. Thank god for GPS. Time to invest in some compass manfacturers, all the current ones will become out of date! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 29 12:26:22 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 12:05:52 2006. Except if they're elected ... notice how despite Bush, and despite the republicans making organized crime look good, the dumb schmucks still wanna vote for them? Close election after all the stupidity? Yipe. :("Gay marriage" still trumps the economy, the handing over of our economy to China and the stupidity of our commander in cheap. :( |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 29 12:27:00 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Sun Oct 29 07:34:40 2006. By the way: "Warmist" ought to be plural. There are more people on this board who believe in the existence of climate change than those who don't. As far as I know, there are only two people posting here who refute the existence of global warming. Climate change is NOT global warming. Global warming is an alleged cause of climate change. AFAIK, there's no one on this board who absolutley dismisses global warming as A cause or THE cause. In my case, I merely deride those who have already decided that it IS caused by man-made greenhouse gas emissions, despite evidence not supporting such a sweeping conclusion. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 14:41:13 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 29 12:27:00 2006. That's still the silliest thing I heard."Climate change is NOT global warming. Global warming is an alleged cause of climate change. " I wish I could come up with an analogy. Maybe: Cooked chicken is not the result of cooking. Cooking is an alleged cause of cooked chicken. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Sun Oct 29 15:19:20 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 29 12:27:00 2006. Sand Box John and Mr. Mabstoa completely dismiss the existence of "climate change." SBJ has never really substantiated his claim; Mr. Mabstoa makes a more metaphysical argument, stating that "man cannot affect weather in any way."I never stated that CO2 emissions are the sole cause of Earth's climate change. I don't think anyone believes that. There are other factors, the primary one being Milankovitch cycles, which are periodic changes in the Earth's position relative to the sun. We are currently the closest to the sun each 100,000 year cycle allows. However, temperature changes in the last 150 years coinciding with the introduction of heavy-CO2 producing industry cannot be explained by Milankovitch cycles. CO2 levels are increasing rapidly, and it is obvious that they do play a role in global temperatures. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 29 15:23:57 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Sun Oct 29 15:19:20 2006. You can't argue science with those who believe the Scopes Monkey trial was decided "all wrong." Mathematics is something that completely eludes them which is why the stock market is up on really bad news. Those of us who live with cows and know what a "steamer" is ALSO understand what a stampede is. :(Can't argue with those who have been "born again" under the 12 step plan. First thing that happens when you're born again into the party of god is Jesus comes down and does your hair. SECOND thing is he scrubs your brain squeaky clean. Ozzie and Harriet was a DOCUMENTARY. No point in arguing with the ayatollahs. "Climate change" is caused by JESUS. Now shaddap and drink your milk. :) |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 15:30:20 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 29 15:23:57 2006. How Clinton of you. I was watching him on CSPAN a few weeks ago.He says you can't argue or debate with an idealogue. You can debate things with someone who....i forgot the word. In other words. You can debate someone who's a real person, but you can't argue with someone who has some sort of religious conviction that they're right. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 29 15:38:26 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 15:30:20 2006. Heh. I guess CLINTON is tired of trying to shovel his way out from a mountain of bullshit ... after what I'm going through now, I have as much use for republicans as I do for arabs. In fact, I'll give the "good guy" edge to the phucking ARABS. :(Look what chithead and the GOP did for ISRAEL in that waste of time in Lebanon. Israel's reputation destroyed, the ARABS WON and Iran is even MORE powerful than ever as though what we'd already done with morons in power wasn't ALREADY enough. And Israel STILL hasn't figured out the "Jesus agenda" yet or they wouldn't have listened to Rummy in the FIRST place. :( NEVER has evil been so VISIBLE, and the evil is US. :( |
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Posted by tracksionmotor on Sun Oct 29 16:13:02 2006, in response to Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006. The earths magnetic field is more powerful than anyone can imagine. Your TV set with a picture TOOB is a primary example....you never move it...but when you do...it has initial problems with color. What happens is that the TOOB is sensitive to line-up of earths magnetic field and a coil of wire surrounding it charges up to DeGauss (de-magnetize) the TOOB and chassis everytime you turn on the TV. I used to repair RGB monitors which required CONVERGANCE adjustments (how the red/green/blue electron flow strikes the phosphor screen) which was done by adjusting magnets on the neck of the KINESCOPE (picture tube....Cathode Ray Tube.)Liquid Crystal Displays (LCD) and PLASMA displays do not have magnetic deflection because they are electrically controlled. The one thing about the big glass CRTs is that they are rugged...you can punch the screen and even fire a BB at it with no more than a scratch. Don't try that with your computer flat screen LCD...easy to crack the thin glass screen. New Train Technology T/O cabs utilise touch screen LCD displays. The screen is covered by a pressure sensitive membrane which is sensitive to surface pressure....your finger. While I have never encountered a cracked LCD screen, I have encountered scratches that interfered with sensing the pressure of ones finger...the scratch cannot be recalibrated in maintainance...the whole display mut be replaced. RRCI Peter |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Oct 30 00:47:09 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Oct 28 22:43:41 2006. Hey..My head on fire..My skin has melted away..and all thats left of me is a skeleton set ablaze! I alway have the urge to go out at night to seek out the guilty..and PUNISH them with HELLFIRE. I also own a niffty bike thats on fire to! Strange ..but true. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Oct 30 11:47:54 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Oct 29 00:00:27 2006. I knew that this global warming garbage was going to have a effect on us all, and here it is, a "global warming tax."Now we all have to pay for something that is pure crap, another way for the government to take our money from us. Subterranean, your a real smart individual, but you need a few more years under the belt to see what these "crisis's" are really about. TAXES And please don't tell me that these news reports aren't factual or have any proof. There are many for you to choose from. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 30 12:58:43 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Sun Oct 29 15:19:20 2006. However, temperature changes in the last 150 years coinciding with the introduction of heavy-CO2 producing industry cannot be explained by Milankovitch cycles. CO2 levels are increasing rapidly, and it is obvious that they do play a role in global temperatures. You're committing the same mistake most other climatologists make, assumption by coincidence. Just because the Earth's temperatures have been rising the past 150 years does NOT mean it's man-made greenhouse gases which are to blame in any way. Prior to 1850, the Earth's temperatures were unusually low. They might simply be returning to what they were pre 1300. Current warming trends are NOT unusual. CO2 levels are increasing because most of the undeveloped world is now rapidly industrializing. No one seems to want to tell China and India to "stop". |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 30 13:04:07 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 15:30:20 2006. I maintain my position on this issue because that's what the facts dictate, without any pre-conceived biases. Why would I do otherwise? I don't own a coal burning power plant. I don't manufacture automobiles, nor do I routinely profit from either. It is you who cannot seem to accept that another viewpoint is valid. You have accepted that you're being told the absolute truth from the global warming cabal and you've been innoculated from anyone arguing otherwise. Anyone arguing otherwise must be a right-wing anti-science nutjob who wants to maintain the status quo. Whose the ideologue here? |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 14:17:04 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 30 12:58:43 2006. You're committing the same mistake most other climatologists make, assumption by coincidence. Just because the Earth's temperatures have been rising the past 150 years does NOT mean it's man-made greenhouse gases which are to blame in any way.So the presence of CO2 doesn't trap infrared radiation in the atmosphere? Temperatures are dramatically greater than they were before the "little ice age" you're alluding to. If you think modern temperature trends are coincidental: What else would cause such dramatic warming, then? Sunspot activity is incapable of causing such rapid temperature changes. CO2 levels are increasing because most of the undeveloped world is now rapidly industrializing. Yup. They're precipitously accentuating the trend. But industrialized nations ought to curb their emissions, too, especially since they have the resources to do so. No one seems to want to tell China and India to "stop". What on Earth makes you think that!? |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 14:28:58 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Oct 30 11:47:54 2006. ...but you need a few more years under the belt to see what these "crisis's" are really about.One can easily go to the nearest public library for a few hours and research climate change. He would look at books containing historic climate data, and perhaps some basic chemistry texts. It doesn't take any special "experience" to comprehend an issue such as global warming. You also seem to be implying that global warming is merely a conspiracy. That's more ludicrous than 9/11 conspiracy theories. I'm *sure* that excessive CO2 production is intentional; it simply exists to facilitate excessive taxes, oh yes! </sarcasm> And please don't tell me that these news reports aren't factual or have any proof. There are many for you to choose from. I'm not sure why you so vehemently deny an issue you don't understand. Never once have you formulated your own valid argument as to why climate change is not occurring. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Oct 30 15:02:09 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 30 12:58:43 2006. CO2 levels are increasing because most of the undeveloped world is now rapidly industrializing. No one seems to want to tell China and India to "stop".The Government should have ORDERED companies like UTC not to export OUR jobs to China and India. or their military welfare payments would STOP. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 15:17:05 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by BIE on Mon Oct 30 15:02:09 2006. The Government should have ORDERED companies like UTC not to export OUR jobs to China and India. or their military welfare payments would STOPThat's what a non-corrupt government would do. |
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Posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 18:23:10 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Oct 29 12:05:52 2006. Who is intelligence? |
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Posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 18:25:55 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 29 15:23:57 2006. You can't argue science with those who believe the Scopes Monkey trial was decided "all wrong."But Scopes was convicted! If you believe that the Scopes Monkey Trial was decided wrong, then that means you DO understand that evolution is fact. |
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Posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 18:32:06 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Oct 30 11:47:54 2006. His a real smart individual what?What belongs to crisis? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 18:33:28 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 18:25:55 2006. evolution is factThat'll make it the first time ever that a theory is fact. Sorry; a theory only becomes a law (fact) when it can be repeatedly demonstrated. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 18:37:46 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 29 15:23:57 2006. You can't argue science with those who believe the Scopes Monkey trial was decided "all wrong."No need to drag that goose in here. That solely circulated around the right to teach the theory thereof, not any veracity concerning that theory or alternate/opposing views. Science is replete with theories and always has been (remember that the "four elements" thingy was also considered scientific at one time). |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Oct 30 18:39:12 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 18:33:28 2006. Never mind that a trail of evidence (fossils, skeletons, anatomy) strongly suggests evolution, and has done so repeatedly. What does creationism have going for it, one book and a bunch of old hearsay from various cultures? |
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Posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 19:04:33 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 18:33:28 2006. Shut up, bible boy. |
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Posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 19:05:02 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Oct 30 18:39:12 2006. Bible boy believes in it, therefore it must be true! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 30 19:29:05 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 18:25:55 2006. Heh. True, but he wasn't HANGED. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 30 19:30:40 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 18:37:46 2006. Now now ... I can drag all the geese I want to ... I checked the doors after closing up and pooked my head back in according to the rules. :) |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 19:46:57 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 19:05:02 2006. The bible was the first Wiki! :-)...and we all know how reliable Wikipedia is ;-) |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 30 19:51:39 2006, in response to Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Oct 28 17:44:28 2006. !!!........thats right!! ........the POLES are changing !!!uh huh !!! |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 19:51:47 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 18:33:28 2006. It's a fact that creatures have evolved. Darwin's Natural Selection is an extraordinarily well supported theory providing an explanation for the fact of evolution. |
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Posted by BIE on Mon Oct 30 21:10:11 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Oct 30 13:04:07 2006. Wouldn't it be nice if the scientists got together and told the pENTAGON to eat shit. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:22:49 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by New Brunswick Station on Mon Oct 30 18:39:12 2006. Never mind that a trail of evidence (fossils, skeletons, anatomy) strongly suggests evolutionNo, it strongly suggests (or rather proves) that there were different species of fauna and flora in Earth's past. Suggestions are just that. What does creationism have going for it, one book and a bunch of old hearsay from various cultures? Same thing as evolutionism has going for it; but there is no creative element pinned down in the evolutionary theory. And are you ready to take the chance that at least one of these is not "old hearsay" . . . ? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:23:48 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 19:05:02 2006. Bible boy believes in it, therefore it must be trueNobody's saying anything of the sort. What is being said that treating theories as laws is shoddy science. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:28:16 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 19:46:57 2006. The bible was the first WikiTo make that claim, one must say that the Bible has been edited non-stop through not only the centuries, but also the decades, years, months, days, hours, minutes, seconds, you name it. If one recognizes that the opposite is the case, then that claim has to be tossed out, as it stands on its own. However, we were talking the theory of evolution. That is in fact separate from any discussion about the Bible, and indeed may be exclusive thereupon. Dragging the Bible or any other religious text into the fray is a distraction and an attempt to set up a straw man. The theory thereof ought to be able to stand on its own; and honest proponents treat it as a theory and not a law, as well as not confronting any theologies using it (which is not the theory's purpose). |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:29:18 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by American Pig on Mon Oct 30 19:04:33 2006. Haha, in comes the straw man. I didn't bring up the Bible. Try a secular defense; after all, I used a secular argument. |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 21:32:13 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:28:16 2006. American Pig brought the Bible into the discussion; I was merely adding a little comic afterthought.For evolution, see here. I see you haven't responded, yet. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:35:25 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 19:51:47 2006. It's a fact that creatures have evolvedNo, it's not. There is no Law of Evolution; there is, however a theory thereof. Darwin's Natural Selection is an extraordinarily well supported theory providing an explanation for the fact of evolution False again. Darwin's "Natural Selection" is a corollary to the theory of evolution. Claiming that evolution is a fact is claiming that it is a law, which it is absolutely not. Facts are verified via observation. Nobody has observed evolution as a process (i.e. the genesis of a new species), even via allele frequency shifts. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:37:24 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by Subterranean Railway on Mon Oct 30 21:32:13 2006. Just did. Be careful using that word "fact", which refers to something that has been verified beyond the shadow of a doubt. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 30 21:38:01 2006, in response to Re: Earths Magnetic Feild/Currents Reversing?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 30 19:30:40 2006. All righty then. I prefer mine roasted . . . |
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