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Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 12 21:52:13 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 12 21:48:34 2019. G W Bush was not a senile old man in 2001. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 21:58:08 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 12 21:49:14 2019. Why can't you answer those very simple questions?Even if the work you were doing was "classified", your employer was no secret. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 22:06:22 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 12 21:01:08 2019. Exactly.I mean WTF? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 22:15:21 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 21:58:08 2019. He was working for Universal Exports. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 22:15:51 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 12 21:05:42 2019. No you didn’t. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Apr 12 22:16:15 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 21:58:08 2019. You're so extremely full of shit |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 22:33:47 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Apr 12 22:16:15 2019. Why? |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Fri Apr 12 22:33:54 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 22:15:51 2019. He sees things, although so did John Nash |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Apr 12 22:47:23 2019, in response to NY Post front page, posted by Dave on Thu Apr 11 14:50:53 2019. Very poor taste. On the local news when there is a 9/11 related story they never show the actual plane crashes or towers burning anymore. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 12 23:04:13 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 12 18:28:42 2019. "Bush swears he saw the first plane hit the tower. Is that footage also deleted after the fact?"He does? Thats the first time I've heard that. I've seen footage of him being in Florida being told of the attacks. What he saw was from TV, like the rest of us unless you were there...and he wasn't "Do you really think Hillary Clinton came under sniper fire in Bosnia?" Equating Hillarys BS to anything related to 9/11 is just plain wrong. Apples & Oranges to an extreme degree. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 23:07:21 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 12 23:04:13 2019. SMH |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 12 23:07:34 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 12 19:51:06 2019. Thank You! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 23:08:37 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 12 19:51:06 2019. This is how religions start. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Apr 12 23:52:58 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 20:01:40 2019. Did I hurt your feelings, Tinkerbell,? |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Apr 12 23:54:17 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 21:58:08 2019. You go, Tinkerbell. |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Fri Apr 12 23:55:34 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 22:33:47 2019. You are what you eat Tinkerbell. |
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Posted by jimmymc25 on Sat Apr 13 00:35:09 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Fri Apr 12 22:47:23 2019. That's the Post for ya. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 02:03:12 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 12 21:52:13 2019. Well, I saw it at work or else I wouldn't have said it. You have to just come to the fact that I was privy to things (still am if I REALLY wanted to be) and saw things that you just can't see. It's as simple as that. If you think that agencies are transparent, I have a bridge to sell you. They are as transparent as they want to be. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 02:03:48 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Apr 12 21:58:08 2019. You only know one of my old employers. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 02:04:51 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 22:15:51 2019. Yes I did. I was able to see things that you just were not. If I hadn't of seen it, I would not have mentioned it. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 13 02:41:09 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Dave on Fri Apr 12 19:51:06 2019. Link doesn’t work |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 03:00:19 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 12 22:06:22 2019. VCRs were going strong then, I still used one regularly until 2004 when cheap DVD recorders were able to get somewhat decent quality. That said, recording the news isn't exactly commonplace. People would record for time shifting purposes, or if they're hoarders and record everything, but that latter group probably wouldn't bother putting things up on Youtube.I will add that if loony places like Infowars haven't been able to dig up documentation of such celebrations in NJ, there might not exist any. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 06:52:47 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 02:03:12 2019. Has nothing to do with any of that. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 06:57:36 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 03:00:19 2019. You don’t need news recordings to be common, they just need to exist.Now one thing that I haven’t thought of before: because the news preempted everything on network TV for days, many people probably recorded the news inadvertently because they still had their timers going. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 08:15:04 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 03:00:19 2019. Lots of people recorded 9/11 coverage. It's all over YouTube.So it really seems likely any video coverage of celebration in NJ would be on YouTube. |
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Posted by Dave on Sat Apr 13 11:58:19 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 13 02:41:09 2019. What link? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 12:02:52 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 06:57:36 2019. True, but intentional or not, people using VCRs for time shifting would have recorded over it a few weeks later. To [obtain], [choose to preserve], [be able to find years later], and [upload to youtube] a specific clip that might have gotten airtime for 15 seconds on one or two networks during 24 hour news coverage is asking a lot.Also to put into perspective, there are TV commercials from that era that I've spent hours trying to find. After hunting through what amounts to 100 hours of recordings, I gave up. I don't think anyone would care enough to comb through that much footage looking for a specific clip unless they worked for some conspiracy news site. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 12:32:05 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 12:02:52 2019. There are people who work for conspiracy news sites who would do the work. Also, if there were clips of people celebrating, they would have saved that. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 12:48:03 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 12:32:05 2019. That's kinda my point, though I'm arguing both sides. On the one hand, the fact that places like Infowars, LiveLeak, etc don't have anything lends credence to the "no such clip exists" crowd (I would not put it past Youtube to have removed the clips). On the other hand, the sheer needle in the haystack aspect of such a thing, lends credence to it having once existed / been made, but not survived through time.Or, the third option, the Mandela effect. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 13:54:55 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 06:52:47 2019. What does it have to do with? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 14:05:04 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 12:48:03 2019. My wife saw a fantastic downhill run by Franz Klammer at the 1976 Olympics. In the 80s she decided to ask the network if she could see it, but they couldn't or wouldn't find it.Nowadays it's on YouTube for anyone to find in a minute. The same would be true of Muslims celebrating in Jersey City. |
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 14:57:04 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 14:05:04 2019. YouTube only has stuff that people put on there. If no one put you there, it just means that it's not on YouTube, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 15:08:42 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by BILLBKLYN on Sat Apr 13 14:57:04 2019. If no one put you there, it just means that it's not on YouTube, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.True for me; not true for something as newsworthy as Muslims celebrating in Jersey City. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 13 15:20:02 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by BILLBKLYN on Fri Apr 12 21:06:51 2019. Yes. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 13 15:23:43 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 12:02:52 2019. Not to mention, if it's like my old vhs tapes, even personal ones....they sit in boxes unseen in years. I don't even pull out family vhs memories, much less anything I recorded from TV on vhs. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 15:39:26 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 13 15:20:02 2019. ???It's you and Bill, not JayZ, who are suggesting that the celebrations really happened even though there are no observable videos of them. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 15:49:15 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 15:08:42 2019. If it was a recording of a news clip, it's one open and shut copyright claim away from getting pulled down. If the originating news station wanted to make it go away, it would be trivial for them to do so. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:06:40 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 12:48:03 2019. Thank you for referencing the Mandela Effect. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Apr 13 16:09:22 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 15:39:26 2019. Lol! Where do they get these guys? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:10:44 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 15:49:15 2019. Now you’re getting into conspiracy theory territory. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:17:06 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Sat Apr 13 15:23:43 2019. And yet people do, and post it to YouTube. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 16:25:23 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:10:44 2019. It doesn't need to be a conspiracy, just one person with a bug up their butt at the news company clicking a button on Youtube - poof, gone.That's why absence on Youtube isn't proof it doesn't exist, only that it doesn't exist on Youtube. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:30:54 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sat Apr 13 16:25:23 2019. This would have been covered by way more than one network and any attempt at removal would invoke the Streisand effect. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:33:49 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Ftgreeneg on Thu Apr 11 20:50:48 2019. No, it's not. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:34:55 2019, in response to That’s not all Ilhan Omar said and/or did, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Apr 11 19:29:28 2019. So Hoda was arrested and not Matt Lauer? |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 18:08:28 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by Spider-Pig on Sat Apr 13 16:30:54 2019. Exactly. Something that newsworthy - if it was ever publicly available, it would still be publicly available.And it would take a major conspiracy for the Jersey City Police to have filmed it and yet no public record of it exists. I'm sure people have filed FOIA requests, so it would have to be deliberate bad faith rejection of such a request. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 13 18:10:41 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 18:08:28 2019. Not to mention, any news agency that captured footage of such a thing, would have Pulitzer material on their hands. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 18:17:27 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 13 18:10:41 2019. Yes, but the implication from the conspiracy theorists here is that the federal government asked for the videos to be kept from the public. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 13 18:24:10 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 18:17:27 2019. The federal government can't keep far less explosive things off YouTube.If there were any such footage of throngs of Muslims dancing while the Towers burned and fell, trust me, it would have been looped endlessly, as it happened. |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Apr 13 18:35:45 2019, in response to Re: NY Post front page, posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat Apr 13 18:24:10 2019. Hey, I fully agree. |
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