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Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'' |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 26 23:18:20 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 26 22:52:49 2014.  |
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Re: Question 10 ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'' |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:23 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 26 22:59:46 2014. 10. Name three people you believe are not liberal. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:24 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 20:56:37 2014. I agree that the war industry is out of control and offered suggestions as to how it should be cut back. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:25 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 26 23:17:20 2014. Actually, Islamic fundies tend to do everything on the cheap— improvised weapons and guerilla tactics. Luckily for them, every time they so much as plan a minor attack we obligingly go on a panicked stampede and hurt ourselves more than they could ever hurt us. You can thank your conservative friends for that. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:27 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 21:05:06 2014. "Under development" in the sense that it is not actually running and therefore does not exist. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 01:27:53 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 20:56:37 2014. "war industry is out of control." !!!and the biggest budget too |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 01:28:10 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 26 23:17:20 2014. ???wtf |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 01:28:24 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:25 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 01:28:41 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:24 2014. IAWTP |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 01:29:16 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 26 23:18:20 2014. train dude ?lol ! |
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Re: More Americans renouncing citizenship because of greedy government |
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Posted by subfan on Mon Oct 27 05:42:56 2014, in response to Re: More Americans renouncing citizenship because of greedy government, posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 26 19:43:09 2014. If their UK taxes are solely on compensation and are paid via the UK PAYE1 system, that will generally be the case. Where people in the UK tend to run into problems with the US FTC is when they have other types of income, where the tax is paid at year-end, rather than being withheld along the way. As the UK Tax year ends on 5 April, the tax is only paid then, or, even if paid earlier, it may be deemed to have only crystallized then. The result is a mismatch - the income is taxable in the US in the earlier year (say, 2013), but the credit is only available in the next year (say, 2014), since a credit is available only in the year it (depending on circumstances) is either paid or is crystalizes.Depending on a number of factors, it may or may not be possible to deal with this - but even so, it's at best a major hassle, and at worst results in true double taxation. subfan |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 06:56:50 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 01:27:53 2014. You're still not answering the question. What program in particular would you cut? |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 07:09:33 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Nilet on Mon Oct 27 00:16:27 2014. A new streetcar system is almost ready to go in Washington, DC but technically, is still under development. Does that mean it doesn't exist?WMATA is extending the Silver line from Wiehle-Reston East to Dulles Airport. Heavy construction began this spring so the extension is still under development. Does that mean it doesn't exist? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 07:37:03 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 07:09:33 2014. Those are extensions of existing, proven systems and not a brand new organization hitting the streets. An on-paper only railroad is still fiction.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon Oct 27 07:56:28 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Nilet on Sun Oct 26 19:43:11 2014. Mostly through taxes?Where else would they have come up with the money? |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 08:05:44 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Charles G on Mon Oct 27 07:56:28 2014. Bonds?your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 08:50:38 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Sand Box John on Sat Oct 25 22:01:54 2014. Are you familiar with the term "Job Participation Rate"? Said rate began falling around mid 1999...Those individuals are no longer counted in the unemployment rate.The U-6 unemployment rate, which counts those people, has closely followed the U-3 umemployment rate which doesn't. U-3:  U-6:  The difference between the two dropped from about 5 to 3 from 1994 to 2000, increased to 4 by 2002 and stayed there through 2007, grew to 7 by the end of 2008, and has steadily fallen to 6 since early 2012. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 08:57:25 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 07:37:03 2014. DC Rail is not an extension, Fred.A railroad the owns trainsets and has track to run on - is that still fiction? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 27 08:59:18 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Sun Oct 26 20:49:23 2014. How? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 27 09:13:44 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 08:05:44 2014. And that's private investment in government, no? |
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Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that Olog's 'brain' creates cogent thoughts'' |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 09:29:54 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that Olog's 'brain' creates cogent thoughts'', posted by AlM on Sun Oct 26 08:44:58 2014. There you have it. They are no longer counted as unemployed. This has been the standard federal government use of the word "unemployed" for many decades.That's the U-3 unemployment rate (the one internationally agreed upon as a comparative measure of "unemployment." But those people (specifically, discouraged workers, people who want full time work but are working part time, and those who were unable to look form work due to school, family responsibilities, health, or transportation problems) are counted as "unemployed" in the U-6 Unemployment Rate, which is 11.8 percent. This is the number conservative news outlets like to call "the real unemployment rate." The U-4 Unemployment Rate, which includes discouraged workers but not students, the sick, and part timers, is currently 6.4 percent. |
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Re: More Americans renouncing citizenship because of greedy government |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 10:49:14 2014, in response to Re: More Americans renouncing citizenship because of greedy government, posted by subfan on Mon Oct 27 05:42:56 2014. As the UK Tax year ends on 5 April, the tax is only paid then, or, even if paid earlier, it may be deemed to have only crystallized then.If I pay state tax during 2013 I can deduct it from my 2013 US federal tax, even if it turns out when I settle everything in 2014 that part of that state tax was never due. No questions asked - I just have to put any excess deductions made during 2013 into my 2014 income. Are you saying that this same methodology is not available for deducting UK tax payments? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 11:55:00 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 06:56:50 2014. i answered the question !lol |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 11:56:10 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 08:57:25 2014. DC Rail is not an extension, Fred.DC Rail is part of DDOT, an established operation, no? It would be an extension of an existing operation, not an extension of a line. A railroad the owns trainsets and has track to run on - is that still fiction? The railroad that ordered the five trainsets, you mean? Have they paid for them yet? your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 11:59:47 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Oct 27 09:13:44 2014. Charles asked where else government would get the money, besides taxes.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 27 12:10:25 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 08:50:38 2014. The U-6 unemployment rate, which counts those peopleNo it doesn't. The term "marginally attached" per U5 is too loosely defined and impossible to count accurately. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 27 12:13:52 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Charles G on Mon Oct 27 07:56:28 2014. Borrowing, maybe?"Full faith and credit" is rapidly degrading to no faith and no credit. Where will the DC liberals be then? |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 12:29:05 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 20:55:11 2014. Your Social Security and Medicare taxes are $2,677.50 ($35,000 x .0765%). Your Adjusted Gross Income is $32,332.50.No, your Adjusted Gross Income is $35,000. I was only referring to Social Security tax due from the individual, not total federal tax liability due from both employer and employee, when I said that "paying double" is roughly correct. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 12:32:14 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 21:06:21 2014. What you pay up front is double but you get half of it back in the way of tax deductions, so the net cost at the end of the year is almost identical.You get considerably less than half of it back in reduced tax. Roughly half of it becomes a deduction from your income tax, but if you're in the 25% bracket only 25% of that half comes back to you in the form of lower federal income tax. |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 12:35:27 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 27 12:13:52 2014. Yep. Investors have so little faith in the US government that when they loan it money for 10 years they demand the outrageously high interest rate of 2.3% per year. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Oct 27 13:11:34 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 16:59:18 2014. Actually, they are paying Amtrak. Corridor Capital was unable to take over the service. It appears increasingly likely that they never will. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 13:38:34 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 11:56:10 2014. Siemens has been awarded the contract to build the locomotives and single-level passenger coaches. And the "new" railroad? It's owned and operated by Florida East Coast Railway (FEC). Construction began a few months ago on the Miami to West Palm Beach section with the laying of new tracks. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 13:39:09 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 12:32:14 2014. Go back and reread my example. |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 13:40:11 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 11:55:00 2014. No, you didn't. Typical answer from you...all noise, no heat. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 15:11:32 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 13:38:34 2014. Ok, that's legit. The article made it sound like it was bar talk.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon Oct 27 15:33:44 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 08:05:44 2014. Perhaps, but the money to pay those bonds will come from where? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 15:47:12 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Olog-hai on Mon Oct 27 12:10:25 2014. No it doesn't. The term "marginally attached" per U5 is too loosely defined and impossible to count accurately.So where do you get your 30 percent? Including children? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 16:06:48 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 13:40:11 2014. bullshit |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Oct 27 16:39:16 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 12:35:27 2014. And they're fleeing into American bonds from other countries'. |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 16:53:18 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Charles G on Mon Oct 27 15:33:44 2014. I can only answer one question at a time for a dollar.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 27 16:55:52 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 16:53:18 2014. Send him over to my booth on the other end of the midway. We dispense free dumb looks. :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 17:28:34 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 27 16:55:52 2014.  Make him drag ya, lady; he got ya drunk. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 17:31:14 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 16:06:48 2014. Then talk specifics. What military program would you cut and why? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Oct 27 17:33:20 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 17:28:34 2014. Hey! Somebody purloined my lunch! :) |
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Posted by Charles G on Mon Oct 27 17:33:28 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses create jobs'', posted by Fred G on Mon Oct 27 16:53:18 2014. The check is in the mail. |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 17:35:31 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 17:31:14 2014. dammn near all of them thats whytoo much waste |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Oct 27 18:35:40 2014, in response to "Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs", posted by Dave on Sat Oct 25 08:43:42 2014. |
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Posted by subfan on Mon Oct 27 21:07:51 2014, in response to Re: More Americans renouncing citizenship because of greedy government, posted by AlM on Mon Oct 27 10:49:14 2014. It's not totally clear. If the tax was paid via PAYE, it likely would be creditable in the year paid. If, however, it is a payment on business or investment income, there is a risk the IRS will treat the payment as a "voluntary" tax payment, and only allow the credit when the tax year is over and the amount finalized.If I had to put odds on it, I'd say that it's not "more likely than not" that the credit would be allowed in the year paid. subfan |
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Posted by Dave on Mon Oct 27 21:08:54 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Oct 27 17:35:31 2014. Well, that narrowed it down. LOL! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Oct 27 22:55:44 2014, in response to Re: ''Don't let anybody tell you that businesses creat jobs'', posted by Dave on Sun Oct 26 20:15:19 2014. What programs would you eliminate?The NASCAR sponsorship is a good start (and that one finally is going away after this racing season). |
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