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Posted by AlM on Thu May 15 09:56:32 2014 Wal-mart missed its targets. That's a very good sign. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 10:27:39 2014, in response to Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Thu May 15 09:56:32 2014. Actually, it's bad, since Wal Mart is where you shop when you are poor. If you can't even afford Wal Mart...Now that I work in retail, I can see the horrific economy up close. It's not good. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 13:46:23 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 10:27:39 2014. They gotta be hardcore if they think that doubling down on socialism will ever produce a recovery. |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 13:59:31 2014, in response to Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Thu May 15 09:56:32 2014. I don't know. I guess there is some bizarro world where disappointing sales at the nation's #1 employer is a good thing and a precursor to better economic times ahead. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Thu May 15 14:13:00 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 10:27:39 2014. who told you that?or did you come up with that on your own? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 14:14:51 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 10:27:39 2014. Now that I work in retail!!!!!!!! You're cured!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 15 15:12:08 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 13:59:31 2014. I think that shopping at Walmart is the quintessential "inferior good." |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 15:13:44 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 15 15:12:08 2014. I went to Walmart last night. Needed fabric softener(yes I'm doing my own laundry again).It's close, ample parking, and it's fabric softener. When you buy clothing from Walmart, it's "inferior good". I think. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu May 15 16:17:28 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 13:59:31 2014. I'm not making up the part about Wal-Mart being coutner-cyclical. |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 16:48:06 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Thu May 15 16:17:28 2014. Has it been counter-cyclical for many full cycles? Or did it only get stronger during the last partial cycle? |
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Posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 16:50:55 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 15 15:12:08 2014. I've probably shopped at a Walmart less than 10 times in my life, but I don't think I've been disappointed by what I got or the price that I paid for it any of those times. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 17:00:22 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 16:50:55 2014. I was comparing Whole Foods paper towels and toilet paper prices to Walmart and really, they were the about same price. But the Whole Foods is quality of a name brand while Walmart is lower quality, like you'd find at a McDonald's restroom. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 15 19:13:43 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 13:46:23 2014. It will for MallWart. Most of their sales are groceries, and with food SNAPs cutback, they lose. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:22:18 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Edwards! on Thu May 15 14:13:00 2014. Christmas was bad.Overall month-to-month sales for my employer are down 12-15% from last year. No one has to say it, I see it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:25:52 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 13:59:31 2014. Maybe that on said bizarro world, the economy contracting in the first quarter of '14 is a good thing as well. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:26:52 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 17:00:22 2014. Bullshit. Odds are they came from the exact same manufacturer. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 19:28:22 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Charles G on Thu May 15 13:59:31 2014. Bizarro world, eh? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 19:37:03 2014, in response to Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Thu May 15 09:56:32 2014. Actually, according to the Reuters story, the problem is that Walmarts are out in the sticks generally where governments just didn't have the money to keep up with the snowstorms so well *AND* the GOp cut food stamps and since Walmart made half their dollar on food sales, if the poor can't afford food anymore, then Walmart ain't gonna be making the street.There's what happened. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 19:39:27 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 15 13:46:23 2014. Yep ... keep cutting, that produces more money for everybody. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 19:43:33 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:22:18 2014. How was your electric and heating bill this past winter? It went down right?Did your employer give you a raise to help pay off those higher expenses so you would have some "discretionary income" to spend? Those poorer folks who depend on SNAP? Did they have any income to spend in the store after paying a lot more to feed their kids? Welcome to the republican economy and mindset, this is how it works. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 19:45:41 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:26:52 2014. Walmart requires "exclusive" on what they sell. Go to Walmart, check out some stuff (ANY stuff) and get the model number or UPC code. Then go somewhere else and check those. They won't be the same.I'm impressed that Walmart charges the same price because they always skimp on what they order compared to what those same manufacturers sell elsewhere. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 20:46:26 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:26:52 2014. Thanks for attacking ChrisR15.But the Whole Foods product is better. It's more like name brand paper products, not generic. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 22:42:53 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 19:45:41 2014. That's also bullshit. Nobody buys paper towels from China. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 22:47:50 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 19:43:33 2014. Not sure how Republicans are to blame for this, they've basically had little power since 2007. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 22:52:05 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 22:42:53 2014. I'm trying to figure out the correlation here. I'm talking manufactured goods like small appliances, lawn chairs, even soup cans. Seriously ... checkem.
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 15 22:56:45 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 22:47:50 2014. LOL! They have the power to obstruct. |
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Posted by bingbong on Thu May 15 23:00:20 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 22:47:50 2014. Oh? If that was the case, why has President Obama's agenda been thwarted since he took office? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 23:12:21 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 22:47:50 2014. 
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 23:26:16 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Thu May 15 20:46:26 2014. I mean, don't many products share production plants?Coke and Pepsi most likely make Publix and Pathmark sodas but the final product is different. |
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Posted by train dude on Fri May 16 00:11:46 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Thu May 15 23:00:20 2014. He accomplished nothing even when they controlled the house and Senate. Maybe he was simply incompeten. Then again maybe his agenda just plain sucked. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 02:13:36 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu May 15 19:22:18 2014. you work for WALMART?Hmmmm... |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 02:15:49 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by train dude on Fri May 16 00:11:46 2014. couldn't be further from the truth..but since THATS what works for you and the extremist..go for it! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 02:17:45 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 23:12:21 2014. LOL!Guess TRAIN DUDE knew that already..but STILL said "Obama's done nothing". |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 16 02:21:29 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu May 15 23:12:21 2014. i will vote Republican down the ticket in this November and every November. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 02:25:00 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 02:17:45 2014. I'm sure he only knows what Drudge tells him. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 02:25:56 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 16 02:21:29 2014. Good! The western ice sheet in Antarctica is already dropping into the sea, too late now. So Florida won't be there much longer as it becomes beachfront property for Georgia. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 02:32:38 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 16 02:21:29 2014. great! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 16 03:34:02 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 02:25:56 2014. No gif.?My heroes are Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, and Rush Limbaugh. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 03:47:04 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Fri May 16 03:34:02 2014. No need, and no need. :)Keep up the hate and AGW denials, GOPland ... we'll sell you some snorkels. |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 16 05:14:20 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by train dude on Fri May 16 00:11:46 2014. You're neglecting the insane overuse of the filibuster in the Senate. The republicans have been obstructionists since day 1. Face it, the voters elected the Democratic party because they have had enough of RWers. Had it not been for gerrymandering and a slew of voter supesson laws we may still have Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress. Remember that the RWers are nothing more than a noisy majority, maybe one quarter of the voting population. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 06:27:17 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Fri May 16 05:14:20 2014. Actually, the Republicans never filibustered anything. They would threaten to filibuster, and then the Democrats would retract or water down whatever bill was being discussed. The Republicans never had any power at all, but the Democrats voluntarily decided to pretend that they did. I distinctly recall Obama himself declaring that he refused to let the Democrats pass any health care reform bill unless it had "bipartisan" support, and we all know how well that went.While voter suppression and gerrymandering have given the Republicans a significant edge, I think the defining factor in the 2010 midterms, if not the 2012 election was the simple fact that the Democrats never actually did any of the things they had promised to simply because the Republicans said a certain f-word. The Democrats could have changed the rules to remove the filibuster, or they could have merely called the Republicans' bluff— a real filibuster is hard to sustain (they'd get tired or hungry eventually) and they'd earn the ire of the nation while doing so since even CNN would have a hard time spinning that. But no; the Democrats retracted every proposal the Republicans threatened to filibuster, and so the nation went to the polls in 2010 with a choice between the Democrats who made empty promises and refused to deliver despite having complete control of government, and the Republicans who didn't do any clearly bad things in the last two years and it's not like Americans are known for their long-term memory. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 06:32:32 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by train dude on Fri May 16 00:11:46 2014. "Incompetent" works, but I prefer "coward." When you refuse to pass your agenda because the irrelevant minority party doesn't like it, that makes you a coward.A nicer person would say that Obama wasn't a coward, he was just genuinely incompetent at politics and failed to understand that trying to convince the Republicans to see reason was as futile as trying to convince certain SubChatters, and when the populace votes to give you complete control of government on the strength of certain policies you've proposed, your obligation is to those voters who put you in power and not to the irrelevant minority party they kicked out of power to put you there. But I'm not a nicer person, so I'm going with "coward." Had even half of the liberal agenda promised in 2008 actually been enacted, you would have noticed. For example, this thread wouldn't exist because the economy would have genuinely recovered by now. |
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Posted by train dude on Fri May 16 06:50:44 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Fri May 16 05:14:20 2014. You are wrong again. What and when did the Republicans actually use a filibuster? Be specific. If you can't prove your claim then it never happened. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 16 08:58:03 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 06:27:17 2014. If true, then +1. |
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Posted by train dude on Fri May 16 09:42:39 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 02:15:49 2014. It couldn't be further from YOUR truth. To the majority if Americans it is THE truth. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri May 16 10:12:31 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 16 08:58:03 2014. It is true. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri May 16 11:32:46 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 06:27:17 2014. Excellent post |
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Posted by bingbong on Fri May 16 12:18:34 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by train dude on Fri May 16 06:50:44 2014. No, you are...http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/01/analysis-republicans-sett_0_n_480801.html That article goes back to 2010. Lots of blocked legislation then, still the same story today. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 16 16:30:19 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Nilet on Fri May 16 06:27:17 2014. Semi-correct. What they actually did was prevent cloture and placed "holds" on bills which had the same effect. No point bringing things to the floor for a vote if you didn't have the 60+ votes for cloture. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri May 16 16:31:28 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by train dude on Fri May 16 06:50:44 2014. LOL!Another example of Conservative obstructionist denial syndrome. even used jokingly..its sad to behold. but to answer you..the "filibuster" was recently used by the SENATE REPUBLICAN to block a bill that would increase federal minimum wage to at least $10.10 an hour...meanwhile 63-75 percent of the people thought and think that a increase would be welcomed. |
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