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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 17 22:48:38 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sat May 17 22:33:54 2014. Sure, as soon as she admits she was wrong about BMW's SC plant. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 17 23:48:41 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering?, posted by TonyG on Sat May 17 19:20:08 2014. Gotta love it I guess. I'll stick with socialist NY thank ya. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat May 17 23:50:19 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by TonyG on Sat May 17 19:24:03 2014. Yeah, we do the 7% in Schenectady here. State Sales tax is 4% and counties and cities add on their piece. The good news though is that a lot of small things are exempt. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 18 04:13:11 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sat May 17 22:33:54 2014. I thought you claimed she wasn't filibustering but was just "yammering." |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 18 04:27:49 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Sun May 18 04:13:11 2014. Shhhh! Righties have to justify their stuff by blaming the other guy. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 18 04:46:09 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 18 04:27:49 2014. Since I know the previous post is gonna generate butthurt, PLEASE note the ":)" at the end ... there was a reason for that. (grin) |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 18 05:20:02 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun May 18 04:46:09 2014. GOP is only hope this country has. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 06:02:04 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 18 05:20:02 2014. If your goal is 3rd world banana republic, yes.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 18 06:16:56 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 06:02:04 2014. I am a psychopath. But I know the GOP is the best bet we have. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 07:17:43 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Sun May 18 04:13:11 2014. No, I asked that as a question. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 07:19:26 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sat May 17 22:35:48 2014. But you said Wendy wasn't filibustering. The NYT says she was. Other sources also say she was. So who was correct, you or the Times?WABB. |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 18 08:14:09 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 07:17:43 2014. OK, since now you are upbraiding bingbong for supposedly not admitting that Davis was filibustering, what is "yammering" and what does it have to do with the issue? |
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Posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 08:37:26 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Sun May 18 08:14:09 2014. Bing bong said that Ted Cruz was just yammering instead of his recent filibuster.Your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 18 08:41:06 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 08:37:26 2014. Aha, that's where it came from. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 10:45:39 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by AlM on Sun May 18 08:41:06 2014. Fred got it. I wanted to know what was the difference between the two, according to bingbong. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 10:45:59 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 07:19:26 2014. Bump. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 11:59:22 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 18 05:20:02 2014. The best hope for this country is to eliminate the GOP. Replace them with a party tht's dedicated to the rights of all citizens and their ability to tke care of themselves and provide policy initiatives to enable that while preserving the environment.That is NOT what the GOP is now. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 12:00:28 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by LuchAAA on Sun May 18 06:16:56 2014. Yes you are a psychopath, one that has no sense of what this nation needs. Get help.. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 12:15:14 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 07:19:26 2014. I said she was speaking within the rules of the Texas legislature. Which she was. I didn't characterize it further then and will not now. RW revisionism yunno. Won't be a victim. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 12:33:42 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 08:37:26 2014. Fred,Ted Cruz, one evening in 2013, when there were no bills on the floor seeking cloture votes, once business had all but been concluded, requested and took the floor to speak. He then yammered all night in a self-styled "filibuster" against ACA, which had been passed some three years prior and was being implemented before he took office. That's just yammering. That is NOT a filibuster, which is a blocking motion to prevent a final passage vote on a bill or nomination under Senate rules. In the far saner past, it required holding the floor personally through continued speaking until a vote requiring a majority of 60 to regain the floor and continue business (the cloture vote), but in its modern practice merely the threat of someone like Ted Cruz keeping the CSPAN2 techs at work and the chamber lit all night so they could read the phonebook at a camera is sufficient. The overtime would break the budget. Sorry you blew it, Bingbong |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 13:28:36 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 12:15:14 2014. So in your opinion was she filibustering or not? It's a simple yes-no question; why won't you answer it? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 18 13:45:39 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 13:28:36 2014. ???Maybe she doesn't have a firm opinion on the topic. I know I couldn't answer your question yes or no. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 13:46:43 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 13:28:36 2014. Because I have no opinion on that. I don't live in or know the legislature rules and laws. Id do fully support what she did, and decry the fact that heinous bill passed in a another session called an "emergency" when no existed whatsoever.i hope she can get the vote out and be elected governor of Texas. She would bring some much needed change to a repressive climate, and the people of Texas can see what government is like when it does good. How many million Texans still have no access to healthcare??? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 18 13:58:31 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 13:46:43 2014. in texass you still still have no access to healthcareand a poor education systems too man i would never live there |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 14:24:09 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 13:28:36 2014. What is your opinion of blogs cherry picking parts of news stories and then presenting them as the actual news story? Is this a journalistic fraud or not? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun May 18 15:53:03 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 11:59:22 2014. Just remember first you have to get rid of the Tea Party, the hardest thing to do. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 16:08:49 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun May 18 15:53:03 2014. Same difference. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 16:27:29 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 11:59:22 2014. Get rid of the GOP.Split the Democratic Party into a liberal "Warren wing" party and a conservative "Obama wing" party. Done. |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:29:53 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 14:24:09 2014. I didn't write the story so I'm not responsible for what they wrote. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 16:30:59 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering?, posted by TonyG on Sat May 17 19:44:47 2014. Let me guess, you're white? |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:34:54 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun May 18 13:58:31 2014. You do realize your brain is a floating log, don't you?If there is no access to healthcare in Texas then why would the #1 ranked cancer hospital in the United States be located in Houston? Or the #3 ranked ENT hospital in the country also be located in Houston? Could it be because you have no idea what you're talking about? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 16:37:17 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:29:53 2014. What is your opinion of how they went about it? They cherry picked parts of the story, then distorted them into their story, disregarding the majority of the reality. Is this fraudulent? |
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Posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:51:19 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 16:37:17 2014. Again, I didn't write the story so I have no say in it. I just posted the link.What is your opinion of whether Wendy was filibustering or yammering? |
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Posted by AlM on Sun May 18 17:01:54 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:34:54 2014. Texas could simultaneously have some of the best medical institutions in the country and also have some of the worst access to healthcare for low income residents.I realize salaamallah didn't include the low income qualifier. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:06:14 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 11:59:22 2014. One party system huh? |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:07:38 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Fred G on Sun May 18 06:02:04 2014. Those are the democrats. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:08:00 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 11:59:22 2014. One party system huh? |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:15:34 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:51:19 2014. I don't live in Texas so I don't have one. She spoke within the rules there. That's all I will stand by.I am aware you didn't write for brightbart. However, you endorsed it in a sense by posting the link and representing it as truth when it was clearly a distortion of. Do you endorse the press blatantly lying in this manner? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 17:18:13 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:34:54 2014. "Access to healthcare" requires more than the existence of providers. The problem with American healthcare has never been a lack of healthcare facilities— the problem is that many Americans can't afford those facilities.And since Perry has rejected the expansion of Medicaid under the ACA, it's a fair bet that access to health care in Texas isn't very good (unless you're rich). Given that Texas has a large population and an extremely high poverty rate, that lack of Medicaid is hurting a lot of people. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:19:05 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:06:14 2014. Wrong. Had you read what said, a new party that is dedicated to the preservation of rights as well as the enabling of individuals to make and improve their way in life is needed, along with the existing Democrats. Or something close to what Nilet said, splitting the two factions within the Democrats, which would also preserve the basic rights of citizens.Obviously you didn't read my message. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:22:08 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:07:38 2014. Nope. You're wrong. Remember that the Democratic party made your pension possible. The republicans would never had let you retire with anything to show for it beyond what meager savings you managed during your working years. Life in a large city is costly. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 17:24:31 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Dave on Sun May 18 16:51:19 2014. Filibustering.When you stand up and talk at great length for the purpose of blocking a bill, that's filibustering. Whether it's a good thing or a bad thing depends on what's in the bill— Davis filibustering a bill to strip women of the right to bodily autonomy is a good thing, but Republicans (threatening to) filibuster a bill to provide health care is not a good thing. On the other hand, when you stand up and talk at great length for the purpose of hearing your own voice echo in the Senate chamber and/or annoy your fellow Senators, that's just yammering. |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:25:40 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:08:00 2014. Nope. Try the one-post system instead. This is not going to result in a different answer. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 17:27:06 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by chicagomotorman on Sun May 18 17:08:00 2014. Hold up, how exactly does getting rid of the Republicans create a one party system?I've done the math, and I still can't see how several minus one comes out to one. Although a one party system wouldn't be the end of the world— it would convince people to vote in primaries, which would be useful a few years later when the one party inevitably splits or a new party inevitably arises. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 17:28:06 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:22:08 2014. Retire? Without earning a union wage his whole career, how would he manage to retire? |
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Posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 17:28:59 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:25:40 2014. OK, I actually laughed at the "one-post system" comment. :) |
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Posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:29:31 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by Nilet on Sun May 18 17:28:06 2014. Exactly. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun May 18 17:31:25 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:19:05 2014. A mirror image of the democrats. May as well have one party. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun May 18 17:36:28 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:22:08 2014. True, but at least the democrats of old didn't sell their soul to the devil. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Sun May 18 17:37:22 2014, in response to Re: Maybe the economy is finally recovering, posted by bingbong on Sun May 18 17:25:40 2014. I'm sorry, I forgot you're perfect. |
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