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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:49:59 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:40:48 2014. But they aren't being used for construction, they are being used to make rockets to fire at Israel.Israel faces other problems if it removes Hamas by force. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 15:50:24 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:48:00 2014. Why do you show this anti-semite nilet more respect than me? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:51:08 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:44:50 2014. The things you fail to explicitly denounce ARE relevant to the topic at hand and therefore constitute implicit endorsement. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 15:51:20 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:25:05 2014. So then that issue is off the table. No need for Israel to build infrastructure for Gaza. Or wait. Did they flee to the West Bank? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 15:52:24 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:26:40 2014. Don't sidestep the issue. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:52:32 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:48:39 2014. Hamas's military infrastructure is purposely installed among schools, mosques, and other civilian infrastructure, such that it is difficult to target just the military installations without running the risk of accidentally hitting something else. What should Israel do, not attack until Hamas decides to follow the rules of war? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 15:53:02 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:28:46 2014. Huh what? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:53:24 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 12:18:58 2014. You're adjacent to a baguette. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 9 15:54:11 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:48:39 2014. "Wait, so are you trying to argue that Hamas firing rockets justifies Israeli attacks on Palestinians who have nothing whatsoever to do with Hamas?"How do you know that the attacks are not specifically targeted at Hamas outposts? Because the NY Times and CNN says that Palestinian civilians were killed? That's no proof and you know it. And about those innocent Gaza Palestinians: I'm not seeing any popular uprisings there, as we saw in Egypt and Syria. Seems to me that the Gazans are in favor of Hamas being in charge there. So much for innocence. Finally, if Hamas goons hide in mosques and churches and under women's skirts and behind children, how would you suggest Israel retaliate? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 15:54:51 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:32:12 2014. So the Italian horse is the only person of consequence here? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:55:27 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 12:16:26 2014. You do single out Israel for special treatment in your posts.No, I talk about Israel because this discussion is about Israeli policy. The Syrian border with Israel has effectively never been open to anything aside from select Druze, limited apple exports, and humanitarian emergencies. I hear Damascus is really pretty, but I can't visit. Doesn't seem to perturb you at all. And that's another straw man ripped apart. :( Even after I explicitly told you that I oppose the closure of the borders, you still insist that it "doesn't seem to perturb me." By the way, I hear Damascus is a bit violent. Even if the border were open, you might want to wait until it calms down a bit. They don't allow things that might be used as weapons because Hamas has demonstrated they will use each and every one of those items for that purpose, not the item's intended purpose. Right. Not a single house constructed, nor sewer repaired. I can't imagine what it must be like living someplace where anything that "might" be used as a weapon is banned. Israel does not control Gaza's internal affairs. Neither does America re: Iraq. At least not on paper, in both cases. Exert a tremendous level of influence over a territory and you are not "disengaged" from it. Israel doesn't control Syria's internal affairs but they share a border, is Israel engaged in Syria? Is the availability of goods in Syria controlled by Israel? Your double standards aren't being missed by the rest of us. Again with the projection. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:55:46 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Mitch45 on Fri May 9 15:54:11 2014. Or the Gazans who are opposed to Hamas are scared shitless of what will happen to them if they let their opposition be known, since they might end up like this. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 9 15:58:44 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:48:39 2014. Wait, so are you trying to argue that Hamas firing rockets justifies Israeli attacks on Palestinians who have nothing whatsoever to do with Hamas?Your evidence that Israel attacks people in Gaza who have nothing to do with Hamas is what? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 15:59:28 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:33:15 2014. Er. I'll have to get back to you on this one. Maybe I can make a lateral pass to Spider-Pig or WMATA? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:00:37 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 12:17:38 2014. Since you can't even identify the left, I doubt you have the slightest clue about their position re: Israel.I haven't done any surveys but I do know that the left (a) generally opposes getting involved in other people's affairs and (b) disagrees internally a lot so I'd expect a plurality of liberal Americans to think the US should keep its nose out of the Middle East entirely and a broad spectrum of other opinions ranging from "overthrow Hamas" to "try and use America's considerable weight to break up the fight" to "change Israel's name to 'Totally Not Israel, Guys' and remove any explicit reference to the 'Jewish State' (while continuing all the policies that make it that) and then proudly tell Hamas that Israel has been 'overthrown.'" |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:01:03 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:37:58 2014. The context of "stupid question (particularly from a particularly stupid poster) gets a stupid answer". |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:01:27 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 15:37:48 2014. That was the point. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:02:16 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 15:35:10 2014. Yes I did. But I see that you corrected yourself. Nice (rare) save. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:04:36 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:01:27 2014. That is not a direct answer. Please do not disrespect me. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:05:22 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 12:21:55 2014. Actually, it is very relevant to the point of this thread, which way back when, started with an article about the need for mutual understanding.How the thread started? That was ages ago. At the moment, we're debating over two Israeli policies. Maybe when you've had to find shelter from incoming Hamas rockets while at work or in your apartment, as I have... Seriously? If you're trying to claim that personal experience of a bad thing is necessary to debate it, then you will leave yourself unable to condemn the Nazis (unless you're pretty old). ...or when you've met a group of Palestinians in Bethlehem who tell you what they really think of their leaders and of the Israeli leadership... OK, what do they believe? And on what basis do you extrapolate the beliefs of a population from the beliefs of several individuals who might not be representative? It just goes to show that no matter the "flavor" of extremist, they are all the same at the end of the day. My apologies. I didn't realise you supported Hamas. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:05:56 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:55:46 2014. Still waiting for an answer. |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:06:02 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 12:39:59 2014. Ro0ked. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:06:12 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:00:37 2014. What does that have to do with what I wrote? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:07:17 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 12:27:20 2014. And how does this have any bearing on the fact that the expanded definition of Judaism is less obvious to a casual observer than black skin? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:08:18 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:40:48 2014. What right does Israel have to eliminate the threat directly??? |
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Posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:08:20 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by AlM on Fri May 9 12:42:34 2014. Then why do so many people try to tell me Hitler was an atheist? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:09:23 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:41:58 2014. I've not seen you say otherwise. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:09:38 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:05:22 2014. At the momentYour catchphrase for when you can't handle the fact that things in the past don't support your opinions. I'm not saying one has to have lived through an experience to comment on it, but you might feel differently if you've had to go through those experiences. It's fascinating to listen to one of my ulpan teachers, whose father was murdered while walking to work near Hebrew University and who is quite leftist in her politics, has to say about the recent prisoner releases, which included her father's murderer. I might have opinions about that whole situation, but what she says about the topic will carry far more weight with any rational person than anything I have to say. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:10:04 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:51:08 2014. Exactly. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:10:08 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:08:20 2014. What does that have to do with anything? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:10:28 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:07:17 2014. It is how things worked in Nazi Germany, whether you believe it or not. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:11:41 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:10:28 2014. I'm still waing for an answer WMATAGMOAGH. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:12:47 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 15:52:32 2014. +123456789.987654321 |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:15:56 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by AlM on Fri May 9 15:58:44 2014. ++++++++^^^^^^^66666 |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:16:53 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 15:53:24 2014. Holy shit, not on Passover! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:23:38 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:04:36 2014. Yes it is. I directly told you that the point of my response was to not make sense.Why should I not disrespect you when you disrespect myself and others constantly? |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:25:52 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:23:38 2014. I asked you a legitimate question. Your response is no better than nilet's. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:26:10 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:05:22 2014. "How the thread started? That was ages ago. At the moment, we're debating over two Israeli policies."I'd need to check to confirm but I assume that's because YOU changed the topic to avoid directly addressing the original issue. |
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Posted by AlM on Fri May 9 16:26:13 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Nilet on Fri May 9 16:08:20 2014. I have no idea whether he was an atheist or not. I do know what the laws he signed said.And they said if you could produce 4 grandparents' baptismal certificates (at young ages, not as adults) you were an Aryan and everything was good (as long as you weren't a communist, gypsy, etc.), but if you couldn't you were bad. At first you couldn't get a job. Later you got sent to a camp. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 9 16:26:46 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:23:38 2014. the point of my response was to not make senseTime for you to take another vacation from Subchat. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:26:52 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:11:41 2014. You'll be waiting a while. Take a seat. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:35:27 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:26:10 2014. Is this the post you're looking for? http://www.subchat.com/otchat/read.asp?Id=1173630 |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:36:47 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:26:52 2014. You both respect that anti-semite nilet more than me. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:37:31 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:25:52 2014. No you didn't. You disrespected me and the 12.999999999999999999999 million Jews on this planet.Nilet and I don't disagree about everything. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:37:55 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 9 16:26:46 2014. You paying? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 9 16:38:23 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:36:47 2014. Anyone who is the bitch of an antisemite will get the fate that such bitches face. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:40:36 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:37:31 2014. Why? Because I don't want Israel to give away land to so-called palestinians? Because I know that obama and Kerry are both anti-Semites? That hate Jews and Israel! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:42:03 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri May 9 16:35:27 2014. Thanks! Yes, it could very well be!Though I wish it was the droids I was looking for. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:44:21 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:36:47 2014. That may be true. Very perceptive. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri May 9 16:45:13 2014, in response to Re: Palestinian university students’ trip to Auschwitz causes uproar, posted by ChicagoMotorman on Fri May 9 16:40:36 2014. Yeah, I guess. |
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