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Re: ACA approval at 37 percent as new enrollment period commences |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 19 14:56:01 2014, in response to Re: ACA approval at 37 percent as new enrollment period commences, posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 19 14:53:27 2014. Hey Polly, if you want a cracker - just let me know. |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Nov 19 15:17:06 2014, in response to Re: ACA approval at 37 percent as new enrollment period commences, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 19 14:56:01 2014. Sure! But you're paying. :-) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 19 16:31:42 2014, in response to Re: ACA approval at 37 percent as new enrollment period commences, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 19 14:47:52 2014. Those that claim it's working well for them are either on Medicaid or got an exemption. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Nov 19 16:32:32 2014, in response to Re: ACA approval at 37 percent as new enrollment period commences, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 19 16:31:42 2014. What exemption? |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 19 20:55:55 2014, in response to Re: ACA approval at 37 percent as new enrollment period commences, posted by Train Dude on Wed Nov 19 14:47:52 2014. I bring it up because it refutes your lying claim.your pal, Fred |
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CEOs to revolt against ACA over Obama admin's attack on wellness programs |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 29 13:41:50 2014, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. Reuters via Business Insider
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Re: CEOs to revolt against ACA over Obama admin's attack on wellness programs |
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Posted by AlM on Sat Nov 29 14:03:26 2014, in response to CEOs to revolt against ACA over Obama admin's attack on wellness programs, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Nov 29 13:41:50 2014. The lawsuits are based on the view that it is no longer voluntary if employees face up to $4,000 in penalties for non-participation, loss of insurance or even their jobs.Hmm. The facts of the lawsuit aren't presented in the article. But if any of the programs that are the subject of a suit actually allow someone to be fired for not participating, that sounds like a violation of the law. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Nov 29 17:05:21 2014, in response to Re: CEOs to revolt against ACA over Obama admin's attack on wellness programs, posted by AlM on Sat Nov 29 14:03:26 2014. I agree with you. It's a poor article in not explaining the facts and rationale. Are there conflicts between the 2 laws, or are the corporations using the wellness provisions to strong-arm their employees? Having worked in several large national corporations over the years, I have my suspicions. |
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ACA "glitch" keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 3 00:25:09 2014, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. National Public Radio
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Re: A Glitch? ZOMG ANTI-FAMILY!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 3 01:03:48 2014, in response to ACA "glitch" keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 3 00:25:09 2014. Brushing up on your conspiracy theories now? |
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Re: ACA "glitch" keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 3 06:54:05 2014, in response to Re: A Glitch? ZOMG ANTI-FAMILY!!!, posted by Nilet on Wed Dec 3 01:03:48 2014. Right, the stated goals in the Manifesto are a "conspiracy theory". Never mind the actions of liberal politicians in DC for the past half century. I suggest that every cent of whatever money you might possess go to the families mentioned in the NPR article.Why is it that you're desperately chasing the title of Biggest Idiot on Subchat? You that jealous of Salaam? The last contender for the title of B.I.O.S (slight variation on something else he was fond of saying) left a crate of these laying around . . . so they're all yours. |
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Re: ACA ''glitch'' keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Dec 3 09:54:39 2014, in response to ACA "glitch" keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 3 00:25:09 2014. Your crocodile tears about the unavailability of certain subsidies disgusts me. People like you are against subsidies to begin with. You and your ilk support the lawsuit currently trying to eviscerate ACA by denying subsidies to millions because of a typo in the law.The article say it all: "Blumberg says it's likely that in a more amenable political environment, the family glitch would be fixed, with Congress adding more focus on the affordability of family coverage. . . .With the Republican takeover in Congress, the chance of eliminating the family glitch seems unlikely to improve anytime soon." |
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Re: ACA ''glitch'' keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Dec 3 10:49:00 2014, in response to ACA "glitch" keeps subsidies out of reach for lower-income families (ACA especially anti-family), posted by Olog-hai on Wed Dec 3 00:25:09 2014. That's a glitch that would be fixed by legislation, as just about all landmark laws needed some fix after passage. Medicare D required just such tweaking IINM. Of course, the GOP will refuse such a fix and then go on to crow about how fucked up the ACA is.your pal, Fred |
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ACA exacerbating shortage of primary care physician coverage |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 8 15:59:11 2014, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. Associated PressSo they can "keep (their) doctor" despite having to pay way more, which may mean they can't keep their doctor? |
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Re: ACA exacerbating shortage of primary care physician coverage |
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Posted by italianstallion on Mon Dec 8 16:04:48 2014, in response to ACA exacerbating shortage of primary care physician coverage, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 8 15:59:11 2014. LOL. I guess you don't understand the free market. More people demand medical care, yes there will be a pinch in the supply. Won't the market correct itself?Beyond that, why is there more demand? Because more people have the ability to pay for a doctor -- the whole purpose of ACA. Is this bad? Do you feel all those people now trying to get doctor appointments, who previously could not afford to, should just roll over and (literally) die? Oh, sorry, silly question. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Mon Dec 8 16:39:37 2014, in response to ACA exacerbating shortage of primary care physician coverage, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Dec 8 15:59:11 2014. The problem is that the reimbursement rates for PCP's are ridiculously low compared to specialists and the malpractice rates between the two are generally comparable (certain specialties excluded) so nobody wants to be a PCP. They really need to raise reimbursement rates and impose tort reform that does not extend liability for malpractice by a specialist to PCP where the only connection to the case is the PCP referred to the specialist and 1) the referral was not a deviation from acceptable medical practice and 2) the PCP had no reason to believe there was an issue with the specialist so a PCP who referred to a specialist PCP knew was having his/her license revoked won't cut off liability |
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Half of Medicaid-accepting docs can't offer appointments for new enrollees—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 9 16:28:04 2014, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. NY Times
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Re: Half of Medicaid-accepting docs can't offer appointments for new enrollees—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 9 16:45:09 2014, in response to Half of Medicaid-accepting docs can't offer appointments for new enrollees—ACA strikes again, posted by Olog-hai on Tue Dec 9 16:28:04 2014. Damn ACA for expanding health coverage! The problem is lack of Primary Care Physicians driven out by low reimbursement rates and rising malpractice costs since attorneys sue every doctor who treated the patient even if it was acceptable medical practice to make the referral and then the specialist screws up. All of these were problems before ACA |
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Re: Half of Medicaid-accepting docs can't offer appointments for new enrollees—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by italianstallion on Tue Dec 9 20:31:47 2014, in response to Re: Half of Medicaid-accepting docs can't offer appointments for new enrollees—ACA strikes again, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Dec 9 16:45:09 2014. Yup. You would think a free-marketeer like Olog would understand supply and demand. |
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Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 5 18:28:42 2015, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. NY Times
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Re: Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks |
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Posted by AlM on Mon Jan 5 19:11:18 2015, in response to Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 5 18:28:42 2015. Aw, poor people. Their employer-sponsored plan is so generous it will be subject to the Cadillac plan tax. |
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Re: Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 6 04:33:15 2015, in response to Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 5 18:28:42 2015. i think it's funny that you beat Straight Jacket SMAZZA in this thread.Professors are liberal most of the time and go along with this and would again even if they knew it would cost them more. |
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Re: Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Jan 6 04:38:02 2015, in response to Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jan 5 18:28:42 2015. they'll also support impending redistribution of wealth and real estate efforts coming in the next 10-20 years. |
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Re: Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Jan 6 05:43:11 2015, in response to Re: Harvard professors who once touted ACA now angry because it's hitting their pocketbooks, posted by AlM on Mon Jan 5 19:11:18 2015. Aw, poor people. Their employer-sponsored plan is so generous it will be subject to the Cadillac plan tax.Not at all. The complaint, as Professor Waters says in the last paragraph, is that Harvard is "shifting costs to sick people." Meaning premiums are going down, while point of service costs are going up, including the replacement of copays with coinsurance for some services and the introduction of (*gasp*) a deductible. The University even reimburses some of those out of pocket costs for faculty making less than $95,000 a year, which I'm guessing doesn't include the complainers. |
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Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 8 02:08:07 2015, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. LA Times
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 8 02:58:58 2015, in response to Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 8 02:08:07 2015. Employers are squeezing workers. My health insurance is going up too, more than my employer's cost is. When you're talking about employer-sponsored health insurance, it's nothing to do with ACA except for a very few Cadillac plans that need some changes. |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Nilet on Thu Jan 8 03:10:14 2015, in response to Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 8 02:08:07 2015. Gee, who'd have thought that relying on private health insurance would be a colossal failure?Oh wait, it was all the sane people. |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 09:09:44 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by AlM on Thu Jan 8 02:58:58 2015. Why do "cadillac" plans need to be changed? Why do those who have them deserve to be punished? |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 8 10:04:06 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 09:09:44 2015. Why do "cadillac" plans need to be changed?That's what came out of the Congressional sausage factory. If Congress were amenable to corrections to ACA, changes to that provision could be negotiated. |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 8 10:09:57 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 09:09:44 2015. Why do "cadillac" plans need to be changed?There's no mandate to change them. Why do those who have them deserve to be punished? Employer provided health insurance is an untaxed benefit. The employee does not declare the value of the health insurance as income. The employer gets to declare the health insurance as a business expense. The government is subsidizing and has always subsidized employer provided health insurance. Not all health insurance is created equal. The government will continue to subsidize employer provided health insurance only up to a certain benefit level. After that, those who provide/receive such benefits will have to pay for the extra benefits. |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 10:12:33 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 8 10:09:57 2015. Liberal wealth redistribution. |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 8 10:58:04 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 10:12:33 2015. Liberal wealth redistribution.Just the opposite. The "Cadillac" policies are generally a perk for upper-upper management. The implicit tax subsidy for employer provided health insurance is shared by all tax payers. An unlimited subsidy for employer health insurance is a subsidy for the very very rich. |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 11:29:33 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 8 10:58:04 2015. Well then why not tax all employer provided healthcare? In fact why not tax all employer provided benefits. You know, like:If you work at a diner, how about that free meal your employer provides? $5 X 5 days per week for 50 weeks. Hey that's $1250 in income we could tax. If you work for an airline, how about those free airline tickets. Say 4 times a year at $400 per - there's another $1600 we could tax. How about free transportation for rail workers. Even AMTRAK workers get free travel. Lets not forget the politicians and the free offices that they are provided. Why not tax that. The private businessman has to pay for his office space. And while we're at it, lets also tax the free haircuts and the free gym. Hey how about the free living expenses that we give the president, the governors and in many cases the mayors. Why are we singling out upper management if it's not wealth distribution? |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 8 11:35:34 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 11:29:33 2015. I think you're supposed to declare that stuff on your taxes.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jan 8 11:38:41 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 8 11:35:34 2015. Yep. Unless the employer declares that the perk is provided solely for the benefit of the employer (like a restaurant worker gets free lunch because the employer doesn't want them spending the time going off premises to eat lunch), the perk is taxable. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 8 12:03:53 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 11:29:33 2015. I'm not a tax lawyer but this is my understanding. Unless a perk is necessary (essential) for the job, it's a taxable benefit.What constitutes necessary and essential is subject to IRS rulings and court cases. That determination keeps accountants and tax lawyers in business. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 8 12:44:27 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 10:12:33 2015. It's conservatives who want to tax ALL health benefits as income.Look at the alternatives to Obamacare that they put forward. You continue to conveniently keep forgetting that Romneycare/Obamacare is a Republican idea. The part about the Cadillac plans is the only part of the radical Republican idea of taxing all benefits that survived in the bill. |
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Posted by Dave on Thu Jan 8 12:53:35 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jan 8 12:03:53 2015. Don't forget to distinguish between income tax and payroll tax. Employee fringe benefits are generally exempt from both income and payroll tax; airline employees off-duty flying at a heavily discounted ticket price is an example of fringe benefits exempt from taxation. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 13:11:57 2015, in response to Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jan 8 02:08:07 2015. Miseed this part, eh?The new Commonwealth report, which parallels other recent studies, indicates that healthcare insurance cost growth has slowed in recent years. The overall price of an employer-provided family health plan, which includes the share paid by employers and the share paid by employees, increased 6% annually on average from 2003 to 2010, according to the report. By contrast, annual growth from 2010 to 2013 averaged only 4.9%. The employees' share of premiums also grew more slowly after 2010, increasing on average by 5.9% annually compared with 7.2% a year from 2003 to 2010. Commonwealth Fund President David Blumenthal, who previously worked in the Obama administration, noted the health law may have contributed in part to the slowdown. The law requires insurers to curtail administrative costs and provides new incentives to hospitals to improve quality and efficiency. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 13:13:40 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Fred G on Thu Jan 8 11:35:34 2015. Pwned! |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 13:13:53 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 11:29:33 2015. We do tax all that! |
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Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 13:14:49 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by SMAZ on Thu Jan 8 12:44:27 2015. Good point.Dude lost this thread. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 14:10:26 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 13:13:53 2015. Who is we? Airline employees are not taxed on their free tickets. Are you going to tell me that the girl who just served me my lunch at Wendy's gets taxed on her free daily "Baconator", fries and soda?Also, if employer provided Cadillac medical benefits are taxable, why are not all employer provided medical benefits taxable? |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 14:14:57 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 14:10:26 2015. Please read Fred G's, Bauman's and AlM's replies. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Jan 8 14:53:38 2015, in response to Re: Workers pay more for, and get less from, health insurance; ACA strikes again, posted by italianstallion on Thu Jan 8 14:14:57 2015. Why? Please explain in detail |
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People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid "reasons"—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 14 12:21:25 2015, in response to Universal Health Care is HERE in these USA! Apply Now. www.healthcare.gov, posted by SMAZ on Tue Oct 1 13:19:06 2013. CNN Money
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Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 13:27:59 2015, in response to People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid "reasons"—ACA strikes again, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 14 12:21:25 2015. The Los Angeles resident had applied for Obamacare in late 2013, when she was unemployed. She qualified for a hefty subsidy of $470 a month, leaving her with a monthly premium of $1 for the cheapest plan available.Riddle landed a job in early 2014 at a life insurance agency, but since her new employer didn't offer health benefits, she kept her Obamacare plan. However, she didn't update her income with the California exchange, which she acknowledges was her mistake. You have to update your income so they can adjust the subsidy. Sounds like she just said "fuck it" and now has to pay back the money. Nothing sinister here. your pal, Fred |
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Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 14 14:05:53 2015, in response to Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again, posted by Fred G on Sat Feb 14 13:27:59 2015. Correct. There are no free lunches unless you are on food stamps |
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Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 14 14:26:06 2015, in response to Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again, posted by TRAIN DUDE on Sat Feb 14 14:05:53 2015. And still those aren't free.All the Obamacare lies are being exposed. |
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Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 14:53:58 2015, in response to Re: People being forced to pay back ACA subsidies for stupid ''reasons''—ACA strikes again, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 14 14:26:06 2015. Bill Maher ranted against Obamacare.I don't know why he does that. |
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