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Re: No, It's the Liberal Secularists

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Dec 24 21:12:08 2004, in response to Re: No, It's the Liberal Secularists, posted by Train Dude on Fri Dec 24 17:09:30 2004.

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There is no seperation of Church and state anywhere in the constitution and especially not in the "Bill of Rights". There was no such intent by the founding fathers, to maintain such seperation. The Bill of Rights, after all, was written largely by James Madison. That's the same James Madison who hired the first Chaplain of the Congress.

You mean the same James Madison who wrote:

"What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not."

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