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Re: No, It's the Liberal Secularists

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Sat Dec 25 19:08:21 2004, in response to Re: No, It's the Liberal Secularists, posted by Train Dude on Sat Dec 25 09:29:08 2004.

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The fact is that Madison was a diest

Actually, he was Episcopalian; Jefferson was Deist.

people came here from England to escape religious persecution ... They did not come here to escape religion.

Does that mean that they gave license to persecuting atheists and agnostics?

My ONLY point was that the constitution does not mandate a seperation of church and state but only prohibits the establishment and support for a state religion ... 200 year-old snippets of quotes that have little relevence to today's issues

Your ONLY point is in contradiction to 200 years of judicial history. It is also in contradiction to the writings of the people who wrote the first amendment.

I see nothing wrong with a menorah or a nativity scene or a festivus pole being displayed in front of my local town hall.

What about the wishes of those who do find such displays offensive?

Where do you propose that children learn about them in this time of secular liberalism?

There are many venues where children can receive religious instruction, if they and/or their parents wish it. Most are called churches, cathedrals, synagogues, temples, mosques, meeting houses, etc. The only restrictions such locations are subject to are fire codes for public safety. Children may also receive religious instruction in the home. There are no restrictions on religious instruction and training.

Most religious demoninations will give instruction in only their denomination. Others offer some comparative studies. There is also a wealth of written material freely available that describes just about any religion for those who are curious.

Do you propose that Jewish families hold Muslim celebrations in their home? Shall Christians light Menorahs in their homes.

Many Jews would be feel insulted if Christians partook of their religious rituals. From what I remember, some Jews are insulted that other Jews partake in some religious rituals. I been told that such sentiments are not limited to Jews. :=)

If children do not learn it in school, where do they learn it?

If children were taught in the schools only that religion is a private matter, the country and the children would be well served.

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