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Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad

Posted by Nilet on Mon Apr 14 21:27:56 2014, in response to Re: Conservative Jeb Bush Notices Racism Is Bad, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Apr 14 19:33:44 2014.

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I have provided evidence: That the United States and Canada (among others) are both unable to support many millions more people and that doing so would lower the quality of life of those already there.

(a) You've asserted as much, but offered no obvious reason as to why this would be true.

(b) Even if it were true, the lower quality of life for the people currently in America would be balanced by the greater quality of life for the new immigrants— the net gain would be positive.

As for how we divide our world, the whole point of keeping the status quo is to allow the people of each country to keep the value of the economy that they've built without diluting it through overpopulation. If the entire world had a similar quality of life, then your utopian dreams of unlimited migration would be reasonable.

The problem here is that a substantial reason for the differing quality of life is malicious action on the part of the "higher-quality" nations. Countries across Europe built their infrastructure and industrial base by plundering countries across Africa and Asia; America has installed brutal dictatorships that destroyed the infrastructure and economies of countries all through South and Central America to increase the profits of a few corporations.

Jamaica has a lower quality of life than Britain because Britain enslaved Jamaicans and plundered their country. Guatemala has a lower quality of life than America because America overthrew their government and wrecked their economy to save the United Fruit Company from a small property tax. Iran has a lower quality of life than either because America and Britain overthrew their government and wrecked their economy so that a British company could maintain control over Iran's oil. Among many other examples.

So it seems to me that (most) nations with high quality of life have an affirmative obligation to build up the nations with low quality of life until the "utopian" dream of equality is reached— or to allow the residents of those nations to come to ours to take advantage of the resources that are rightfully "theirs" anyway.

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