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[OLDE PHOTO] "BT" BMT Standard |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Aug 26 20:38:03 2010 Photographed on the Astoria line, This BMT Standard displays a newly painted on "BT" designation. At one time, this two car unit had a #4000 series trailer sandwiched in between operating ends. When the trailers were retired and scrapped, some units had an "A" unit replace the trailer. Could the reason for the "BT" be a two car unit, with no door controls, to make up a 5 car train with a "B" unit ? Confusing, yep ! The motorman could care less about the photographer ! Line: BMT Astoria Line...Location: Broadway... Car: BMT Std... Collection of: George Conrad Collection...Date: 10/24/1961...from nycsubway.org Bill Newkirk |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Aug 26 20:50:33 2010, in response to [OLDE PHOTO] "BT" BMT Standard, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Aug 26 20:38:03 2010. Cool pic :) Like the R27/30 too :) |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by Randyo on Thu Aug 26 20:52:24 2010, in response to [OLDE PHOTO] "BT" BMT Standard, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Aug 26 20:38:03 2010. The BT units were used to add to 2 X 3 car B units to make up 8 car trains for rush hour Brighton and 4 Av local service. Before the latest run of BT units were created, 2 A cars were added to 6 car trains to make up the same consists. According to historical documentation, when the 2400 series cars were first unitized by the BMT in the 1920s, some were made into BT units and some were made into 2 car units with a 4000 series trailer equipped with controls at one end and designated AX. Eventually all the 2400 series car were combined into 3 car BX units with the 4000 trailer in the middle until the trailers were replaced with some 2600 series A cars to make more B units and the trailer were scrapped. I don't have any documentation as to whether the original BT units retained their door controls but the ones made in the 1960s definitely did not have them and thus a single BT unit could not be used by itself on the Culver shuttle. |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by blue8IRT on Thu Aug 26 20:57:08 2010, in response to Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard, posted by Randyo on Thu Aug 26 20:52:24 2010. The photograph was sweet. It puts you there as id you were gonna go through the train to get inside. A typical, excellent feeling of time travel. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Aug 26 21:09:48 2010, in response to Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard, posted by blue8IRT on Thu Aug 26 20:57:08 2010. With a newly-minted R27 sitting alongside!-w- |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Aug 26 22:15:37 2010, in response to Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard, posted by Randyo on Thu Aug 26 20:52:24 2010. Thanks for the info about the various Standard classifications. It sometimes gets down right confusing. Unless you know your stuff.Bill Newkirk |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 27 08:06:10 2010, in response to Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Aug 26 21:09:48 2010. Mean old BMT standards.... |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 27 22:40:58 2010, in response to Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard, posted by Newkirk Images on Thu Aug 26 22:15:37 2010. That lead motor looks as if it just picked a fight with some other car. |
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Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 28 00:45:19 2010, in response to Re: [OLDE PHOTO] ''BT'' BMT Standard, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 27 22:40:58 2010. That lead motor looks as if it just picked a fight with some other car.That was common with the rebuild Standards I saw with hit and miss panels painted. I doubt it was graffitti, maybe rust. Bill Newkirk |
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