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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 9 11:50:05 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Mon Jun 8 21:39:19 2009.

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My last ride was last Columbus Day on the B. I've avoided the slants since to assure I remember it.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 9 11:51:58 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by f179dj on Mon Jun 8 22:08:13 2009.

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As a rider, I won't miss the seats (and will continue to suffer from them with the R40M's still running on the E). But they were an unusual look, my favorite cars as a kid (when they first ruled the A) and they had the best RFW ever.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by f179dj on Tue Jun 9 12:12:39 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 9 11:51:58 2009.

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Yup, those seats were horrible.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Tue Jun 9 12:28:18 2009, in response to LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Mon Jun 8 20:40:24 2009.

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First subway train I could ever remember riding was the R40 on the (F) in the mid 80s. This was definitely a unique looking train. Will never see trains like these again, all the new ones are identical clones.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by South Ferry on Tue Jun 9 12:31:27 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 9 06:00:14 2009.

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Ekzactly.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Jun 9 13:15:20 2009, in response to LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Mon Jun 8 20:40:24 2009.

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I think i'm gonna hop on.






[Work Train Motorman]

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 9 13:32:55 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jun 9 10:27:35 2009.

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Thundering and blazing along CPW with that snazzy racing stripe scheme. They were tailor made for the A.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 9 13:34:27 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Jun 9 11:05:54 2009.

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The R-10s are known collectively as the Thunderbirds and Thundering Herd. Green Monsters, well, there's a wall at Fenway Park with that moniker already.:)

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 9 13:35:06 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Jun 9 10:34:13 2009.

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A match made in subway heaven.:)

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jun 9 14:10:02 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by bklyntekgeek on Tue Jun 9 01:23:09 2009.

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Thanks.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 9 16:50:07 2009, in response to LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Mon Jun 8 20:40:24 2009.

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For these cars---they couldn't have gone soon enough...looks notwithstanding.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 9 17:00:21 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 9 11:48:45 2009.

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I suggested that the AA cars be used on the Rock Park shuttle, but TD implied that these would be assigned to 207 barn rather than Pitkin (although we don't know when, but sometime down the road) since 2/4 car units of 75' cars can't fit in that barn for inspection/troubles. An ABBA and AA will fit on a barn track fine. This is needed once all old 60' cars are gone.

Sure they can be ran on the shuttle and swapped with an A train to make it's way up to 207 barn in service for periodic mileage inspection, but the problem comes in when an AAAA consist goes bad on the road in between inspection cycles (or in the case of 6207 a ABAA consist) and it has to go to the yard. Pitkin would not repair a car that belongs to 207, unless extreme emergency that the car can't get up there. There are barn space issues and more importantly budgets at work. Budgets to repair your own cars. Budgets that they don't want to send the Rock Park switchman to 207 since he'd be gone all day, or excessive overtime would be required if he has to go all the way up there if his shift was close to ending.





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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 9 17:04:48 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Westcode44 on Mon Jun 8 23:35:35 2009.

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I've mentioned before that there are 13 AA sets and 1 AB (6206/07) set in existance. Full service on the C is 18 trains. Therefore 6 car R46's will not operate on the C line. They will not operate some as 6 cars and some as 8 cars. You can frame this statement.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 9 17:16:02 2009, in response to LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Mon Jun 8 20:40:24 2009.

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Well I will not make it today so May.30th was my last offical ride!

R-40S 4219 (A) Train
My last pic! 4/29/09

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jun 9 17:19:56 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by bklyntekgeek on Tue Jun 9 11:44:26 2009.

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"hey we use to ride these trains and they were sure roomy compared to today's trains "

How could the R40S which had the least room for passengers be roomier than the R160 which only have cabs every four/five cars only? Psychological thing, maybe?

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by bklyntekgeek on Tue Jun 9 17:33:26 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jun 9 17:19:56 2009.

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Yeah Psychological. It's probably because the seats are lower on the R-40S meanwhile the seats on the R-160 are higher.



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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 9 17:48:43 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by f179dj on Mon Jun 8 22:08:13 2009.

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Did you only operate them pre-GOH? If you did, I can assure you they were completely different cars post GOH.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by f179dj on Tue Jun 9 18:01:16 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Tue Jun 9 17:48:43 2009.

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Yeah, I did; on Aqueduct Specials. I did not like them, the R-38's (poor brakes), the R-27/30 (lousy brake valves), and the R-44's (this car class speaks for itself; no need for me to un-praise it). No comment on the IRT cars since I was a B-division man. Your milage may vary; de gustibus; usw for you EU lovers (lol).

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 9 18:30:57 2009, in response to LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Mon Jun 8 20:40:24 2009.

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Me, Pablo, 33rd Street, and R32 3671 are inside 4370 out to the Rocks. There is no word on whether the Slants will be retired today or any day this week.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by bklyntekgeek on Tue Jun 9 19:44:00 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 9 18:30:57 2009.

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Thanks for the 411 Newkirk. Post some pics if yah can.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by MainR3664 on Tue Jun 9 20:51:45 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Tue Jun 9 01:15:52 2009.

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I remember them when I was alittle guy, when they ran on the E & F. For me, they defined express service-- fast and loud. I still think the Salnt front makes them somehow more suited for serious express service- like QB or CPW without timers.

I know there's no GOOD reason not to have run them on local runs, I'm just speaking of personal feelings here.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 21:01:12 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 9 18:30:57 2009.

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I can assure you that as we speak, 12 are being prepared for the "last ride" tonight to that big chop-shop in Manhattan. Look for just one consist tomorrow (at most)

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by bklyntekgeek on Tue Jun 9 21:30:43 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 21:01:12 2009.

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Thanks Train Dude for the info.

I'll be going out tomorrow to Hoyt St. If by luck I catch that train, I'm going to film it on my phone and post it on Youtube :D



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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by caine515 on Tue Jun 9 21:41:39 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by bklyntekgeek on Tue Jun 9 21:30:43 2009.

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caught one of them today around 2:50p.m. #4425 was the lead car on the "A" running from Lefferts Blvd.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by R160 8818 on Tue Jun 9 21:54:01 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 21:01:12 2009.

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Hm, so that leaves either 12 or 14 left not prepared for scrapping yet. One consist left...do you know if it will be out on Thursday? I'm going to go for it on Thursday, and I have enough time, but I don't know if a new R46 arrival to Pitkin is retiring them tomorrow or something. Not a big deal at all though if they're being retired tomorrow night, since I already got my "last ride" in on Friday.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 9 22:06:54 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 9 17:16:02 2009.

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Whoa, awesome pic. Howyoudothat?

your pal,
Fred

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 22:10:30 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 9 17:16:02 2009.

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I warned you about running in front of a moving train.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by UTC Bus Roster on Tue Jun 9 22:12:22 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by R160 8818 on Tue Jun 9 21:54:01 2009.

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They will be removing 12 cars from service tonight.
The last run will be either Thursday or Friday.
The reason for the reprieve is because they didn't receive enough R-46 cars from Jamaica to allow for their retirement.

The following trains were running today:
From the north:
4219/18, 4346/47, 4342/43, 4176/77, 4371/70.
4425/24, 4415/14, 4398/99, 4257/56, 4433/32.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 22:15:33 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 9 17:16:02 2009.

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I warned you about running in front of a moving train.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Jun 9 22:31:01 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 21:01:12 2009.

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Thanks for the update Steve. Nice ride I had today.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by tramrunner on Tue Jun 9 22:39:14 2009, in response to LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Mon Jun 8 20:40:24 2009.

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will be at least one left for a museum?????
unfair if not

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Jun 9 22:41:47 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by tramrunner on Tue Jun 9 22:39:14 2009.

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Those will be cars 4280-81.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by tramrunner on Tue Jun 9 22:46:14 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Tue Jun 9 22:41:47 2009.

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And how soon, will this couple 4280/81 in a musuem?
and how about a whole train for fan trips?

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jun 9 23:12:13 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by tramrunner on Tue Jun 9 22:46:14 2009.

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I rode Both Trainsets, I think the one with 4370 in it is the one that's going to the Big Chop shop in manhattan, I took a photo of that consist as well as the 2nd consist, I will post Photo's after I edit them.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:27:26 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by f179dj on Mon Jun 8 22:08:13 2009.

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Well the slants weren't my favorite cars but I did enjoy riding them on express runs. They were fun to ride at speed. The slants used to remind me of the BART cars due to their slanted ends. I wonder why the didn't build the R40s into 5 car sets? If they did, maybe there wouldn't be a need for the pantograph gates at the ends. :)

I'm rather indifferent on the retirement of the R40 compared to the retirement of the R32 and R42s. Looking at them today with the duct tape and rust, it seems like their time has come.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 9 23:52:29 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:27:26 2009.

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the slants don't have duct tape.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:55:29 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by f179dj on Mon Jun 8 22:08:13 2009.

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Well the slants weren't my favorite cars but I did enjoy riding them on express runs. They were fun to ride at speed. The slants used to remind me of the BART cars due to their slanted ends. I wonder why the didn't build the R40s into 5 car sets? If they did, maybe there wouldn't be a need for the pantograph gates at the ends. :)

I'm rather indifferent on the retirement of the R40 compared to the retirement of the R32 and R42s. Looking at them today with the duct tape and rust, it seems like their time has come.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:55:51 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 9 23:52:29 2009.

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Proof?

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed Jun 10 00:29:28 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by UTC Bus Roster on Tue Jun 9 22:12:22 2009.

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I will try Friday then.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 10 06:39:00 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:55:51 2009.

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Well known fact. It's been discussed here and on SubTalk countless times over the last 10 years. I don't post lies.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 07:07:15 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:55:51 2009.

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While the tape is euphemistically called duct tape because of its appearance, it is not. The tape in question is a heavy foil that is backed with an epoxy-based adhesive. It works extremely well when applied correctly but is quite a bit more expensive than duct tape. Now that you know what it is "not", I must admit that I can't recall what name it is sold under. That being said, I'd guess that virtually every reasonable person here understood what you meant when you referred to it as "duct tape".

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 10 07:53:03 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 07:07:15 2009.

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TD, question about the 12 cars. . .was the set with 4310 as south motor the one that was sent to the Grim Reaper in Upper Manhattan? LOL

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 10 08:00:36 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 07:07:15 2009.

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Is it anything like aluminum tape? We've got some of that.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 08:33:38 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jun 10 07:53:03 2009.

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???????? All I know was that it was line 31 yesterday. At this point it didn't seem to matter. Of the 26 remaining only 4286 was out of service due to a mechanical problem.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 08:34:06 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 10 08:00:36 2009.

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It is

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 10 09:37:12 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Jun 9 23:55:29 2009.

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I'm rather indifferent on the retirement of the R40 compared to the retirement of the R32 and R42s. Looking at them today with the duct tape and rust, it seems like their time has come.

The R42's I've been on in recent years look worse than the Slants, IMO.


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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jun 10 09:45:33 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jun 10 09:37:12 2009.

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I agree. The Slants have looked bad lately, but the R42s look absolutely horrendous with the rust all over the roofs.

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by JBar387 on Wed Jun 10 10:38:24 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 9 22:06:54 2009.

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A little zoom and a open window on a arnie! That was a lucky shot anyway!

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by JBar387 on Wed Jun 10 10:39:04 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 9 22:10:30 2009.

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Yeah ya did!

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Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jun 10 13:37:33 2009, in response to Re: LAST DAY FOR THE R-40 SLANTS!!!, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 10 08:34:06 2009.

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Pretty sturdy stuff.

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