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Posted by kp5308 on Fri Feb 13 19:56:14 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 13 19:18:09 2009. Right on Fred....I've taken photos in areas where others have reported run-ins with police/security, but with the proper approach have not yet had a serious issue since moving to Jersey. For that matter, all the time I lived in Reading (45 years) I had 1 problem, & he was an imposter anyway. Hell, just last week the police watched LocoTom & I take pictures at 125th St. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 20:00:22 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 13 07:56:30 2009. If an subordinate of an employer in this case the cop, acts outside the scope of his/her legitimate authority, then it would be doubtful that the agency would inemnify the individual. I also think that the court could enjoin the agency from indemnifying. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 20:01:10 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Clayton on Fri Feb 13 19:28:53 2009. The conduct was relatively mild - I have heard people call cops worse things and they handle it professionally. In any case it was irrelevant to the base issue. The moment the cop said that photography was illegal that cop was out of line. THAT is the harassment that needs to given worldwide press and needs to stop. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 20:02:12 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Deaks on Fri Feb 13 08:22:16 2009. Not if the court issued an injunction prohibiting such activities. The any time a police officer engaged in such harassment he/she could be cited for contempt of court and either fined or jailed. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 20:02:13 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 19:47:24 2009. Did that four hours ago :) |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 20:03:45 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 20:02:13 2009. I wrote a letter to the editor on the issue - lets see if they print it - I also sent them a link to the photographer's story on Carlos Miller's site. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 20:04:56 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 20:02:12 2009. THAT is precisely what the ultimate goal of the NYCLU lawsuit is. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Fri Feb 13 20:13:22 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by kp5308 on Fri Feb 13 19:56:14 2009. and you look suspicious, too! |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Feb 13 20:35:12 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 19:36:54 2009. that oddly didn't come to mind. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Fri Feb 13 20:40:52 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Feb 13 10:16:49 2009. that doesn't mean the first officer wouldn't have said or done something to make it difficult. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Feb 13 20:48:19 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Feb 13 10:08:42 2009. As long as he doesn't stink up the joint... |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Feb 13 20:51:07 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by danny at 103rd street on Fri Feb 13 11:19:30 2009. Or act as if they're the emperor of the world. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Feb 13 21:00:45 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Fri Feb 13 11:46:19 2009. I had no problems last October even while taping n/b and s/b CPR express runs on an R-40M Abbott. I figured it would be my last chance to do so since most of the RFW cars will be gone by my next visit. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Feb 13 21:20:17 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009. Nah man, that sounds too soft. I would expected something a lot tougher from you. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Feb 13 21:26:18 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 19:52:18 2009. Ok, but that doesn't mean that people who start of with good intention don't stay that way.Family problems, finacial problems, fed-up with the system etc. My contention is if you keep a level head you probably have a much better chance of walking away with your life. You give the wrong officer the "its my right" BS and you'll end up in a box. Remember Anthony Baez. He was playing football on his street and insisted "it was his street" to play football on after hitting a maniac who shouldn't have been a police officers car. Now Mr Baez is dead. If he would have just went in his house and resumed playing football after the officer left maybe he would have been alive today. I dont a police officer would have stayed outside Mr Baez house for enternity to make sure he never played football again in the street. |
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Feb 13 22:27:22 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Feb 13 01:45:18 2009. IAWTP. |
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Feb 13 22:45:21 2009, in response to Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by JayZeeBMT on Fri Feb 13 12:00:17 2009. We know, thanks to a certain prevert. Anyway, i, a white passed middle age male. on foot, was stopped by White Virginia Police in Manassas U. S. Park. Go figure. I had walked from First Manassas battlelfield to the headquarters in the rear and got caught in a vicious rainstorm en route. Needless to say, i did not look too pretty (not that i ever do). They asked for id and such, i complied, and under my breath i mumbled "knock yourself out," they ran my license # and found nothing and drove away. Only way to deal with police. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Feb 13 23:03:36 2009, in response to Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by f179dj on Fri Feb 13 22:45:21 2009. I had a friend who ysed to live in CT (back in the days when they still cared about speed limits) who was driving a tad fast. He was pulled over and the wise guy cop asked to see his pilots license.My friend hesitated, wondering what he could get away with, and then put his drivers license back into his wallet and handed the officer his pilot's license. After a good laugh, the officer let him go with a warning. ROAR |
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Posted by f179dj on Fri Feb 13 23:05:29 2009, in response to Re:(Print out MTA Rule) I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Feb 13 23:03:36 2009. way to go. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:15:13 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 13 00:59:23 2009. However...chances are, the officer should also be thinking: Will this expose my employer to a lawsuit? Chances are, the officer has. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:15:31 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:15:13 2009. For the record, I always cooperate. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:21:14 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009. I was at freeman st on the 2 on the s/b plat taking pics...a officer(p.o mede/#6673)yelled to me just as I was getting on the train to leave....he asked for I.d; I showed him and he proceeds to tell me I'm not supposed to be taking pics...Nothing wrong with this point; normally an officer will let you off here if you get on the next train and move to another spot; chances are someone summoned them there. I told him that's not true, and I'm willing to bet your paycheck...so as we're in disagreement, his partner who is on the n/b side(removed for this post)asked what was I doing...his partner said taking pics...he told me I had to delete them...I told him I'm not doing that....so he comes over to where me and the cop are at, and we proceed to go back and forth on what I can/cant do in regards to the photos....eventually, he called his sargent, and the sargent says I'm not allowed to take pics...I told him on t/a's rules of conduct it says we are....the sargent tells me their rules and t/a's rules are different....I told him, if you feel I'm in the wrong, give me a a summons and I'll see everyone in court...the sargent says to arrest me....so after being brought down to district 12 to get a warrant check and all that good stuff(mind u I told him I needed the bathroom and to make a call, and those things were denied until I was about to leave), I get my 3 summones(1 for the photography, one for discon/unreasonable voice, and the other for impeding traffic)....I go to court for the photography in march and the other 2 in april....I'll be weighing the other options and will look for a lawyer in addition to filing a few ccrb complaints.....so the controversy continues with whether or not we can or can't take pictures down here.....(I asked the cops what are u giving me a summons for before being handcuffed, they said you'll see it when u get it) The photography one will be thrown out, for the impeding traffic one, this may come down to a technicality and would require an interpretation of the rule. As for unreasonable voice, that likely also comes down to a technicality. If you had just headed onto the next train, there would be no issue. In fact, I have used the same spot. Your major mistake was not moving on; I don't see how you win on unreasonable voice unless the officer doesn't show or unless the questioning makes the officer unable to keep his story straight. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:22:00 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Feb 13 10:11:31 2009. One can always ask for an adjournment to ask for the Sgt. to be there as a witness. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:26:25 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Thu Feb 12 23:50:06 2009. Agreed...I have been in that situation, and the officer usually just says to get on the next train (or one after that if you say that you need a specific route). |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:32:36 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Feb 13 21:20:17 2009. However...as someone who has been in that situation (but never actually ended up being summonsed or handcuffed), cooperation is key. The officer to me would seem as though he thought the OP had something to hide. |
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Posted by Mac5689 on Sat Feb 14 00:01:58 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Feb 13 07:19:08 2009. police officers believe they are above the law, and don't really care for the people they are suppose to protect.if anyone hasn't already notice i tale an extreme dislike to police officers. (not only because my family has a line of firefighters in it) it is because in the late 90's my sister cut her foot on the under part of her bed. the local volunteer fire department (which my uncle was a member, as well as many family friends) sent one of their ambulances (with one of my family friends), and a police officer responded. the chief was unable to respond. well my sister was bleeding very bad, however since the chief didn't show the police officer took it upon himself to say she didn't need to be transported by ambulance. even though my mother, as well as the EMTs said that she did. my sister ended up needing stitches in her foot. the family friend apologized to my mother and said that they should have taken my sister even though the officer said not to. he would also reveal that the officer didn't want the ambulance to transport my sister because that officer didn't want to have to do the paper work on it. |
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Posted by Transit Jeff on Sat Feb 14 00:26:29 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009. All of this for the "heinous crime" of taking a train photograph! Has anyone spit on the floor lately? I guess that's a capital offense!And to think of it, thousands upon thousands of these photographs are already in books, personal albums, the internet, etc. I guess the police { Gestapo } will soon be going to people's homes to confiscate such illicit train photos......They'll have to start to burn the train books. Do you all get my point? Just how ridiculous this all is! Those cops were actually wasting the taxpayer's money with this nonsense. All of this while real criminals roam the streets and transit system freely. That's the story the TV and print media should be told. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Sat Feb 14 00:48:36 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:21:14 2009. Quote"If you had just headed onto the next train, there would be no issue. In fact, I have used the same spot. Your major mistake was not moving on; I don't see how you win on unreasonable voice unless the officer doesn't show or unless the questioning makes the officer unable to keep his story straight."QuoteI showed him(the first officer) proper I.d; at that point it was not good enough for him; in fact, the one that wrote the summonses was on the n/b side(the second cop)......I was talking with someone I know that works in pd; he says that you'll beat the charges; I told him I'm going to ccrb to complain;he said to me: that can ruin his career.....I told him despite me being an employee who showed proper I'd, he proceeded to arrest me, have me sit in a cell, and deny me a phone call and bathroom priorites until he was finished doing a warrant check....he said he understood; the cop shouldn't have wrote the summones..... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Feb 14 01:24:33 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mac5689 on Sat Feb 14 00:01:58 2009. It was not the officer's decision. The fire dept. could have transported her anyway if that was their judgment; the officer had no authority to stop them. |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Feb 14 06:11:48 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.  Looks like I'm a bit late to the party, but... You can file your complaint with the CCRB online; they'll call you to set up an interview. And yes, find a lawyer. Sue. If you can find one, recommend to me! Martindale-Hubbell |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 06:22:47 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by AMoreira81 on Fri Feb 13 23:21:14 2009. If you had just headed onto the next train, there would be no issue. In fact, I have used the same spot. Your major mistake was not moving on;The problem is that moving on without at least showing the cops the rules allows them to continue violating the rights granted to us specifically by 1050.9c. Complaints need to be filed whether or not anyone chooses to move on - all harassment of photographers needs to be stopped - meekly obeying without question is what is allowing it to continue. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 06:35:35 2009, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009. I don't have time to read this whole thread. You have to go to the news media about this. TV stations. At minimum, try Pete Donohue of the NY Daily News or Bobby Cuza of NY1. Perhaps even the real stations Channel 2, 4, 7. Contact Jim Hoffer or Sarah Wallace of the Ch.7 Investigators. Channel 11: Help Me Howard. But if these guys ignore you it's because of this: You handled it wrong. You pissed off the cops. Don't tell the cop "I'll bet your paycheck". Don't tell them "See you in court". You got them really pissed off. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 07:19:34 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Fred G on Fri Feb 13 19:53:49 2009. The story has now spread to Digg.comIsn't the internet a wonderful thing.... Based on the original post I had no idea he worked for the MTA either until Carlos posted it on his site. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 07:27:33 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Fri Feb 13 14:59:29 2009. This changes everything. If he's a TA worker, TA will come down on him. I hope he promptly told his supervisor, or TA will nail him for that too. He probably could've showed his pass, and all would've been fine. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 07:45:49 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 07:27:33 2009. This changes everything.Changes NOTHING - the police are still out there interfering with photographers. The fact that he is an MTA worker does not give him the right to take pictures but not the rest of us. If he's a TA worker, TA will come down on him. I hope he promptly told his supervisor, or TA will nail him for that too. I don't know their HR policies so I can't comment on that. He probably could've showed his pass, and all would've been fine. Again - that is irrelevant - all photography is permitted regardless of employment status. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 07:52:52 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 07:45:49 2009. TA will call him down to labor relations. Since he was arrested, he'll probably be out-of-service, and since it happened on TA property, it involves TA that much more, making this even more of a headache for the poor guy. Trust me, it changes everything for the worse for him. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:26:09 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 07:19:34 2009. If he ID'ed himself as a TA employee, I bet the coppers would have walked away. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:31:33 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by vfrt on Fri Feb 13 12:39:29 2009. Him carrying around the MTA photo rules would have meant nothing. The cops told him that their rules and MTA rules are different). I"m paraphrasing). |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 08:37:21 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:31:33 2009. Isn't there a rule about TA workers loitering? I could swear the rulebook said something about workers not on duty not being on property. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:38:22 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Feb 13 00:04:29 2009. All well and good but the cops still win. You don't live here, we do. The way NYPD Comm. Kelly wants things done is this: intimidate the citizens. Let them win in court, but we make it that the public get so intimidated it's not worth the hassle next time. This applies to much more stuff other than photography. Like the protesters getting detained till the political convention at MSG was over a few years ago. NYPD won that one too. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:40:39 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by randyo on Fri Feb 13 19:36:07 2009. I don't think they can get sued individually just like TA suits in the Gunn era couldn't be individually sued when the work train t/o stepped into a puddle that buried the third rail. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:43:11 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mac5689 on Thu Feb 12 23:01:28 2009. Of course the judge will throw it out. But NYPD still wins. Most people will be so intimidated by the experience and lose work time over the incident that they wouldn't do it anymore. |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Sat Feb 14 08:51:09 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 07:27:33 2009. Quote" This changes everything. If he's a TA worker, TA will come down on him. I hope he promptly told his supervisor, or TA will nail him for that too. He probably could've showed his pass, and all would've been fine."QuoteI was told if they did not process you or fingerprint you, it does not count as an arrest, but as a detainment....I spoke to a supervisor that night..... Worker or no worker, it's on their rules of conduct photography is allowed, it's in the print....... |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 08:54:18 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Sat Feb 14 08:51:09 2009. So this incident is getting some pub now. Story just broke. Tuesday morning, when labor relations gets back to work, they'll see the article, and you'll be called down.Plus, you work for TA and had an incident on TA property with law enforcement. They'll be contacting you soon. In fact, it was stupid of you to post this shit here. I know you wanted support and all. Now, you'll be dealing with LR. Good luck. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 08:55:15 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:43:11 2009. THAT is the problem in a nutshell - NYPD is winning the war against photography by intimidation since they cannot win it legally. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 08:57:03 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 08:54:18 2009. In fact, it was stupid of you to post this shit here.This is not "shit" as you call it. The NYPD war against photographers is what I call "shit" and it needs to be publicized and exposed until it stops!! |
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Posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 08:59:19 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 08:26:09 2009. Probably - but that still leaves the rest of us hanging out there which is what I am fighting against.Everyone should be free to take pictures - not just TA employees. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 09:05:03 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by BMTLines on Sat Feb 14 08:57:03 2009. Yeah, but it's going to cost him now. His ass is going to labor relations once they get wind of this. Between the story, and TA supervision/management viewing this board(Hello old friends in RTO), they'll will call him downtown.I agree with you on the cops. They should know photography isn't illegal on TA property. Even some TA workers still think the same way. I've heard motormen and conductors calling control because someone was taking photos. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Feb 14 09:09:46 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Transit Jeff on Sat Feb 14 00:26:29 2009. However, officers don't just show up for this (unless, of course, the officer is already there for an unrelated reason); they had to be summoned there by some civilian. |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Feb 14 09:10:05 2009, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 14 09:05:03 2009. Here's the thing: he was detained (and intimidated), not arrested and went away with a summons. There is a difference. You are detained when you get a speeding ticket too, you also get away with a summons, and labor relation doesn't have to know about that either! |
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