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After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009

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NY Daily News story.

WTF, the MTA should be blamed for a 73 year old mistake? Would a better story be about incorrect neighborhood maps or wrong G.O. notices?

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Feb 10 08:57:56 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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>>>>Would a better story be about incorrect neighborhood maps or wrong G.O. notices?<<<<

Only to you, David, only to you.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by vfrt on Tue Feb 10 09:18:17 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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I say leave the mis-spelled tiles as they are. My thoughts on reading the story were that some wispy little yuppie from somewhere just noticed it. Go back to Ohio!

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 09:23:37 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by vfrt on Tue Feb 10 09:18:17 2009.

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I agree, because the error is so petty.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by vfrt on Tue Feb 10 09:54:04 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 09:23:37 2009.

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In it's own way the minor error is part of transit history. Leave it alone!

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Tue Feb 10 10:29:03 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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... funny how I've been using that station for the past four years and yet to notice that mistake. ha!

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Re: After 1.7 hours, sub chat poster finally discovers BROADAWAY G post title error

Posted by R30A on Tue Feb 10 10:30:29 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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It is BRODAWAY.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Howard Fein on Tue Feb 10 10:54:52 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by vfrt on Tue Feb 10 09:54:04 2009.

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Yes, it's part of the charm like the famous stamps with the upside-down airplanes. There are certainly many MODERN station sign gaffes.

Take the 1990s-era MTA sign in the mezzanine at 65/Broadway directing people to the stairs to Rowan Street. Never mind that Rowan Street is a defunct street name at the other end of the station that had a defunct exit leading to it. There are still a few original 1930s-era IND tile directional signs left on the platforms. But whose bright idea was it to order and install a new sign?

There must be other street name mispellings on signs around the system. The Saint George ferry/bus terminal has a sign for the S42 via BRIGHTEN Avenue. Sorry, but it's BRIGHTON.



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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Feb 10 11:06:37 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by AcelaExpress2005 on Tue Feb 10 10:29:03 2009.

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And that mistake has been photographed before. To whit, an earlier photo, probably around 1999.

"Brodaway" name, Broadway Station, IND Crosstown Line.

By the way, I just notified the NY Daily News' reporter about this topic in a bit more detail with some historical background (i.e. including when it was probably first installed before the station actually opened in July 1937), as well to NY1 News' "In Transit" show, where he is a contributing report there. My guess it could be one of those end segment topics mentioned in a future episode soon to air.

-William A. Padron
["It's A Shame"]


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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 11:29:07 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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What a shame. Now that old anormality will be removed using tax payer money. I wonder who the moron was that tipped off the Daily News.



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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 11:31:25 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 11:29:07 2009.

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It's a shame, it's been an anormality since the station opened, and now it will probably be removed for nonsense:

"A NYC Transit spokesman said the agency would dispatch someone from the stations division to check out the spelling butchery"

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Feb 10 12:17:38 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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I've known about Brodaway pretty much ever since I've lived in NYC, but I use Greenpoint Ave on a nearly daily basis and have never noticed the Indian St sign!

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Feb 10 12:54:57 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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I just read the article, I didn't notice anyone being "blamed" for the error.

And even it was the case, it's typical. Just like when people scream at the conductor about a previous train that they claim left early. Was that conductor on the previous train? Why scream at him? :-(

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Feb 10 13:08:30 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Feb 10 12:54:57 2009.

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Because they're annoyed and there's no one for them to vent their frustration at.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Feb 10 13:12:28 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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Exactly where is this error sign located at Broadway and on which platform ?

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Tue Feb 10 13:18:00 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 11:29:07 2009.

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I'm amazed they hadn't noticed any of the zillion times it got joked about on Subchat/talk earlier.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Feb 10 13:37:19 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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Slow news day?

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 10 13:42:11 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Feb 10 13:37:19 2009.

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Exactly what I was going to ask. And they're embarrassing themselves by only reporting this decades after the fact. Everyone loses here!

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BRODAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Feb 10 14:02:01 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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The MTA certainly should accept some of the blame. That station was "spruced up" afew years back. They could have fixed the matter then but choose not to.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Allan on Tue Feb 10 14:15:41 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Feb 10 13:12:28 2009.

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It s located on the uptown platform about mid platform.



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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Allan on Tue Feb 10 14:16:53 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Feb 10 11:06:37 2009.

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I wonder if he will respond to you.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Feb 10 15:07:29 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Feb 10 13:08:30 2009.

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Right.

So in this particular case, most of the people who were around in 1937 are not available to hear the complaints, hence they have to contact the current regime.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Feb 10 17:04:31 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Tue Feb 10 15:07:29 2009.

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And the current goverment in Turkey does not want be held responsible for the holocast back in 1905-10 conducted by a different goverment at the time.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 10 17:49:02 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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My question is why the article doesn't mention that the error has been there since the day the station opened. How is that the MTA's fault? Besides, I think its quaint.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by R143 on Tue Feb 10 19:18:04 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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Great, now this cute little quaint thing will be lost. Who tipped off the Daily News I wonder?

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by daDouce Man on Tue Feb 10 19:35:06 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mitch45 on Tue Feb 10 17:49:02 2009.

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Maybe they meant to say it's TA's fault it was never fixed.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Feb 10 19:43:41 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Allan on Tue Feb 10 14:15:41 2009.

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It s located on the uptown platform about mid platform.

Tanks a lot !



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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 19:50:53 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by William A. Padron on Tue Feb 10 11:06:37 2009.

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When the MTA was notified, they responded that they will look into it to see if it was the work of vandals. Come on now! Then they said they would correct it.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 19:53:02 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 11:31:25 2009.

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From the report on TV, I assumed it was a recently completed station modernization. If so, it would have been news. But since that is not the case, it never should have made the news since it wasn't.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 19:55:47 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by New Flyer #857 on Tue Feb 10 13:42:11 2009.

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The news implication is that it is a recent error. The MTA response was similar, by saying they will investigate. They should just tell everyone that it is an old error.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 20:46:21 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Howard Fein on Tue Feb 10 10:54:52 2009.

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A few years ago, I noticed a similar error on the south side of Elmhurst Street Station. Apparently some time in the past the original "8" tile of 82nd Street had been damaged and was replaced by a blank white tile. The result was that the sign directed people to "2 Street". I notified them of the error and they temporarily painted an "8" that looked like it was stenciled in the tile. I think that would have been good enough but they actually manufactured a real matching "8" tile which they installed three months later. Today, it looks like it always has been there. I didn't call the news media. Here's how it used to look:

(Sorry you'll have to cut and paste the link. For some reason it just won't work.)

http://fmmjqg.bay.livefilestore.com/y1p4LZtMnSFF8uwI3ROckEgm2VaJeRNVdRcnVxz68_cvrQcnKnnHU2xUxGzTihzWu_OCTAroW-lEvrUUiasD_-DrQ/Elm%20003.jpg

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by benyankee on Tue Feb 10 22:39:18 2009, in response to After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Tue Feb 10 08:48:27 2009.

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Gothamist had this over the weekend. That's how the Daily News got wind of it.

http://gothamist.com/2009/02/09/subway_typo.php

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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Tue Feb 10 22:55:02 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 20:46:21 2009.

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LINK



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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 23:07:19 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by DCmetrogreen on Tue Feb 10 22:55:02 2009.

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Thanks. Still can't figure out why it didn't work for me.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 23:58:22 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 20:46:21 2009.

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Neat! It looks like more than just that is missing, as that whole part of the wall seemed to get messed up, as the bottom blue tiles of the mosaic are also different color blue, and the white tiles are newer.
Also, It originally probably originally said "To 82 Street", as it's not centered with just "82 Street". Someone better call the Daily News!!

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 23:59:49 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Feb 10 19:53:02 2009.

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It made TV too!!?? Thi sis ridiculous. One thing I can say though, is that it's not long for this world. I am sure they will have a worker there gouging the tiles out soon.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 05:05:53 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by R143 on Tue Feb 10 19:18:04 2009.

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NY1'S Got A Hold Of It. The end is near! Get your photos now. LOL

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 05:14:46 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Feb 10 23:59:49 2009.

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And lord knows how mwny reroutes and GOs. 8-)

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 05:25:31 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Feb 10 19:35:06 2009.

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Then the article should say that.

I think railfans should be the only ones to write transit stories for newspapers. I think Randy Kennedy qualifies but no one else does. Ellis Henican of Newsday used to have a very good transit column but doesn't write it anymore.

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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 06:38:30 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by daDouce Man on Tue Feb 10 17:04:31 2009.

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That would only be a parallel if the MTA refused to acknowledge that there was a mistake, made it illegal to point out the mistake, and stuck its fingers in its ears and went la-la-la.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 06:46:50 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 05:25:31 2009.

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The article should say that no-one wants it fixed.

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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 06:49:59 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 05:25:31 2009.

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>>>>I think rail fans should be the only ones to write transit stories for newspapers. <<<

Oh Lord no! Can you imagine whole pages of rambling on about the minutest little details? Why, the average reader would be fast asleep by the 4th paragraph.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 07:37:36 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 06:49:59 2009.

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Or worse still, sentences full of unexplained acronyms. I spotted this gem in the opening para of an article in the current edition of Today's Railways Europe: "Once owned by the legendary company CFD, the works is now part of VFLI, a subsidiary of SNCF." The CFD may have been legendary to the article's author, but I haven't a clue what it (or the VFLI for that matter) is.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 07:44:07 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 07:37:36 2009.

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True, I only know about SNCF. Rail magazines do not do much to encourage new railfans when they write like that.

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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 07:50:44 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 06:49:59 2009.

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Do we care about the average reader around here? Nope.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 08:01:26 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 07:50:44 2009.

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Newspapers have slightly wider audience to appeal too.

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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Feb 11 08:30:06 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 07:44:07 2009.

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Do they know SCA?

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 08:31:26 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 07:44:07 2009.

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Apparently they're Chemins de Fer Départementaux and Voies Ferrées Locales et Industrielles, but I had to Google them.

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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Wed Feb 11 08:33:14 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Feb 11 07:50:44 2009.

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Having said all that, there are good railfan articles -- here's one that everyone should have read.

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Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Feb 11 08:38:15 2009, in response to Re: After 73 years, NY Daily News finally discovers BROADAWAY G station tile error, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Feb 11 06:49:59 2009.

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Either that or committing suicide...

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