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Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 13 06:23:18 2007

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How They Plan On Doing THis Is Beyond Me

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 13 06:29:09 2007, in response to Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 13 06:23:18 2007.

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I've seen people about that size on the downtown 4 train before. Don't worry about it.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Dec 13 08:37:08 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 13 06:29:09 2007.

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And the homeless move more cargo than that regularly, so yes, no problem.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Alex L. on Thu Dec 13 10:01:27 2007, in response to Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 13 06:23:18 2007.

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Crane to Elder Ave platform, 6 down to 59 st, xfer to the N and up the stairs at 49 St.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 11:17:06 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Alex L. on Thu Dec 13 10:01:27 2007.

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There's no elevator to make the transfer. How would they get it from the 6 to the N/R/W? It's not like they can just carry that 500-pound 8 down the stairs.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by metropod on Thu Dec 13 11:25:23 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 11:17:06 2007.

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who knows, the just might.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Dec 13 11:28:58 2007, in response to Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 13 06:23:18 2007.

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Does it qualify for adult fare?

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 13 11:30:39 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Alex L. on Thu Dec 13 10:01:27 2007.

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How are they going to do this along a very busy and tight Westchester Ave commercial strip? (Unless it's 2 AM in the morning)

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Pelham R62A on Thu Dec 13 11:35:56 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Dec 13 11:30:39 2007.

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Elder Avenue isn't as busy or tight as a Hunts Point or Soundview strip.

They'll probably put the crane by Evergreen Avenue and lift it up from there...and prevent northbound traffic north of Westchester Avenue on Evergreen Ave...I don't think it should be that big of a problem.

But if they're going to use Elder, why not consider Whitlock since the height at the southbound end of the platform? I know there is a lot of commercial traffic to Hunts Point, but it could be done nonetheless.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Dec 13 12:08:15 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 11:17:06 2007.

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How about at Union Square? They could transfer there, instead.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 12:29:01 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Dec 13 11:28:58 2007.

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Yeah, but it has to pay $8.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by RonInBayside on Thu Dec 13 12:29:46 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 12:29:01 2007.

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LOL!

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 12:31:16 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Dec 13 12:08:15 2007.

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Same problem. Also, there's a chance that they have to deal with the gap fillers there, and carry it up the stairs before it can traverse the mezzanine to get to the Broadway Line elevator.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Alex L. on Thu Dec 13 12:40:40 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 11:17:06 2007.

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4 people to carry it and one or two to block the staircase while it's in motion. It isn't that hard.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Alex L. on Thu Dec 13 12:41:29 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Pelham R62A on Thu Dec 13 11:35:56 2007.

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Because the fabricator is near Elder Ave.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 14:07:49 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Fred G on Thu Dec 13 06:29:09 2007.

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..But 500 pounds???

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 14:11:16 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 14:07:49 2007.

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It can fit "lying down" since the cars are supposedly 10 feet wide, no?

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 15:49:45 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 14:11:16 2007.

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B division cars are 10 feet wide. A division cars (like the R142A's on the 6) are only 8'9".

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 15:52:48 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 15:49:45 2007.

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Interesting thought. The doors on those cars are just over 6 feet tall, so that means that for a time, that 8 will have a cameo as infinity (∞).

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 16:03:34 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 15:52:48 2007.

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keep it lying down, avoid ceiling marks. Even if the width at the doorways is 8ft 9, that's more than suffice for an object said to be 7 feet tall...

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 16:04:06 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 16:03:34 2007.

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they could also use a flatcar... but there's still the transfer issue.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Forest Glen on Thu Dec 13 17:06:41 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by South Ferry on Thu Dec 13 14:07:49 2007.

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I've seen people on the subway in the upper 300's so this isn't a stretch.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by straphanger9 on Fri Dec 14 05:01:53 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Alex L. on Thu Dec 13 10:01:27 2007.

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That transfer is going to be a real sight.

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Why Was This Allowed?...Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 06:47:34 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by straphanger9 on Fri Dec 14 05:01:53 2007.

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Why did the MTA allow this? Is it because of its connection to New Years Eve? Is the fabricator trying to save money? Good publicity? It just seems very disruptive and risky in the event of an emergency.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 14 07:16:23 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Dec 13 15:52:48 2007.

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Well, I've found a picture. Like I said, it traveled through the subway as infinity (∞).

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How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 07:26:58 2007, in response to Why Was This Allowed?...Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 06:47:34 2007.

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I wonder if the following would be permitted. Let's say someone connected with transit either as an employee, passenger or railfan passes away. To honor the person's love of the subway, their family wants to give them one last subway ride before the person reaches his final destination (assuming you don't believe in an after-life). So they stop the funeral entourage near a major terminal, take the casket out of the hearse and give the enthusiast one last ride on his favorite line. Would there be any problems with the MTA?

For those who believe in after-life, are there subways there?

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 14 08:24:17 2007, in response to How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 07:26:58 2007.

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Somehow, I suspect there'd be a "health issue" raised by some moron. However, don't see anything against the rules in dispersing their ashes from between cars ... I imagine service would be back to normal after three hours or so after the "police action" to determine whether the ashes were a photographer or powdered sugar donuts. :)

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 08:42:28 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 14 08:24:17 2007.

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The casket could be sealed in a 55 gallon clear zip-lock bag.

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Dec 14 09:06:21 2007, in response to How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 07:26:58 2007.

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I've thought about this..... The casket - for purposes of dignity - would be placed in a work service car (or even a flat car) trailing a regular revenue train. nice touch... would get on say in midtown and get off an any of the stops near the numerous NYC cemeteries.

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by Allan on Fri Dec 14 09:12:58 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Dec 14 09:06:21 2007.

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You volunteering?

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Dec 14 09:15:41 2007, in response to How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 07:26:58 2007.

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The Chicago Aurora & Elgin had a funeral car; why not the MTA? It's convenient to Lutheran, Greenwood, and Washington Cemeteries.

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 14 09:39:49 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 08:42:28 2007.

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If that's the case, I'd wonder how large a person would be to have sufficient ashes to be hauled in such a large bag? Heh.

Nah ... I've decided that if I get creamed upon my leaving this earth, I want my ashes left in a pile outside the White House. Oughta put Cheney in a bunker for at least two hours. :)

Seriously, I've actually thought about this - and instead of having my ashes cast out in a forest or at sea, I'd MUCH rather they be deposited in a battery box on R143 8101-8108 somewhere. That way, I could haunt Windows until they install Vista. Heh.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Amanda on Fri Dec 14 10:37:54 2007, in response to Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Dec 13 06:23:18 2007.

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This sounds like a Sesame Street sketch to me.

Speaking of 8:



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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 14 10:48:16 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Amanda on Fri Dec 14 10:37:54 2007.

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At least it didn't take the D train…



…or we'd be ringing in the year 200D this New Year's Eve.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Amanda on Fri Dec 14 10:53:57 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 14 10:48:16 2007.

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So what kind of train is that? An R-38/40M/68 hybrid of sorts?

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 14 10:55:04 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Amanda on Fri Dec 14 10:53:57 2007.

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Yeah… with Arnine motors!

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 14 11:04:01 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 14 09:39:49 2007.

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How about putting them in one of 1689's cabs?:)

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Dec 14 11:36:30 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by Allan on Fri Dec 14 09:12:58 2007.

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Well..... we all gotta go some day.. ..

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Re: It's been done...

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Dec 14 11:37:53 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Dec 14 11:36:30 2007.

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Robert F. Kennedy returned to Washington from Los Angeles on a funeral train.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 14 11:42:07 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by Amanda on Fri Dec 14 10:53:57 2007.

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If it were 1969-70, I'd say yes. I remember those smorgasbord trains all too well.

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Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Dec 14 11:43:33 2007, in response to Re: How About Giving a Departed Person One Last Subway Ride?.Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Squ, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Dec 14 11:04:01 2007.

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Nah ... wouldn't wanna pollute a classic with my dust ... be RIGHT at home screwing up a "new tech." Heh.

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Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by South Ferry on Fri Dec 14 14:38:51 2007, in response to Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Dec 14 07:16:23 2007.

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"for a time, it will travel the subway as infinity"

called it first

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Re: Why Was This Allowed?...Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square

Posted by 7 Local on Fri Dec 14 22:16:23 2007, in response to Why Was This Allowed?...Re: Number 8 Taking Subway To Times Square, posted by heypaul on Fri Dec 14 06:47:34 2007.

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Interesting quandry...how do you get a giant 500-lb "8" up the stairs.

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