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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:29:38 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:27:13 2007. Join Transit stuff and see for yourself not too hard..;o) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:30:15 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 21:06:30 2007. I think the photo was taken well after the incident happened. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Tue Nov 6 21:40:30 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:35:13 2007. its an MK. just noticed the GE SCM controller. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Nov 6 21:40:42 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:20:20 2007. The incident occurred down the tail tracks. Photo is at the south end of the downtown platform. That could have been taken from that little perch area under the last staircase. And the damage does indeed look rather insignificant - unless it's worse at the "B" end.wayne |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:41:49 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:18:58 2007. LOL |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:42:28 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:22:17 2007. Of course. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:42:57 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:28:53 2007. Giving the exact link can almost be as worse as me putting that pic up.How? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 21:42:59 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:30:15 2007. I think the photo was taken well after the incident happened.Right. That's my point. If MTA takes the view that no one should have been able to take that photo, they might blame someone, rightly or wrongly. Or not. I can't say. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Tue Nov 6 21:44:10 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:37:33 2007. Monorails' got juice!! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:44:34 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:29:38 2007. You don't need to join it to see the thread. |
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Posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:49:34 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 21:42:57 2007. The thread title speaks for itself. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Nov 6 21:55:40 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by R42 4787 on Tue Nov 6 21:40:30 2007. Go out to transitstuff and you'll see your handle's mate was the third car!wayne |
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Posted by South Ferry on Tue Nov 6 22:03:38 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 6 18:34:22 2007. and the chewy foam creme dip!! |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Nov 6 22:09:58 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Nov 6 21:40:42 2007. That is the third car I think... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 22:16:34 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:49:34 2007. Sorry, I'm not following. It's a public message board just like this one. I don't see the problem with posting it here. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Tue Nov 6 22:24:06 2007, in response to PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 20:04:55 2007. WOW! The shear pin is obviously busted as the drawhead is on the downlow and the electric portions may have been cut with a wrench as there aren't any tail lights despite the car having main lighting. The end bonnet cracked on the ceiling and this particular car may have been hit while taking a curve or switch as evidenced by the damage to the side of anticlimber. Write off another 4 R42s, hope the T/O is O.K. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Nov 6 22:36:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by R30A on Tue Nov 6 22:09:58 2007. Yes, that's been noted. Besides the ding in the noggin, there is evidence of skewing of the storm door, plus anticlimber damage. The report indicated that the first two cars were more significantly damaged.wayne |
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Posted by BAISLEYPARKRUSS on Tue Nov 6 23:00:00 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 20:35:13 2007. 4731 hit block |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 23:22:53 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 21:02:53 2007. to buy them |
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Posted by monorail on Tue Nov 6 23:28:47 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Ferry on Tue Nov 6 21:44:10 2007. oreangecranberry/raspberry |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 00:01:02 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 19:25:37 2007. Do we need a DECODER RING,too..to be part of your club..or can anybody join? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 7 00:04:07 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Ferry on Tue Nov 6 22:03:38 2007. Please don't forget the foam..just wouldn't be right. |
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Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Wed Nov 7 00:05:30 2007, in response to M Train Bumper car...., posted by Edwards! on Tue Nov 6 14:22:28 2007. That set is done for. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Nov 7 00:06:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:16:35 2007. From a previous message: "Any incident on MTA property involving equipment the photos are usually to be kept under wraps. Kinda like "what happens here stays here", no matter in public area or not unless the MTA authorizes its release. There are pictures of several equipment related incidents that have occurred on MNR property that have been kept under wraps and from anyone's eyes outside of MNR."Let's make this as clear and simple as possible. The public that means the taxpayers have a right to know how their money is being spent, how the facilities that the public provides is being used, and when there is time for an investigation to know the truth of the matter. That is too fundamental an issue as to be understood by all. The employees of a public authority or agency may want to keep something "under wraps" and hidden, but the truth does indeed come out. It really does not matter if we are talking about the police department, schools, etc -- or even transit authorities. So rest assured that this issue will be reviewed and investigated - with the results made public. As too many have learned to their sorrow - its the "cover-up" that causes the major amount of trouble. Just let there be a "wiff" of a cover-up in this issue... Mike |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Nov 7 00:15:47 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Michael549 on Wed Nov 7 00:06:36 2007. "From a previous message: "Any incident on MTA property involving equipment the photos are usually to be kept under wraps. Kinda like "what happens here stays here", no matter in public area or not unless the MTA authorizes its release."If MTA chooses to cover equipment with a tarp or otherwise block it from view, that's fine. Anything in plain sight where the photographer is not trespassing in non-public areas of the stations is fair game. |
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Posted by Russ on Wed Nov 7 04:11:33 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Tue Nov 6 20:48:54 2007. Is the train's name HAL? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Nov 7 04:40:06 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Russ on Wed Nov 7 04:11:33 2007. Actually it is ... "Hardware Abstraction layer" is part of the Windows kernel. Don't believe me? Check YOUR hard disk - same as thenoo teck trainz" ... look for C:\windows\system32\hal.dll ... :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Nov 7 05:01:55 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:29:12 2007. fuggem |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Nov 7 05:03:10 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:05:17 2007. WHY? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Nov 7 09:30:26 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue Nov 6 22:36:36 2007. Moe was butting heads, it seems.... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 10:28:54 2007, in response to Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 6 18:31:02 2007. YAWN....We don't need rants about reposts. They are more boring than the posts themselfs. ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 10:52:37 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by trainsarefun on Tue Nov 6 20:59:21 2007. Correct. I have taken photographs of combat operations in an active war zone in full view of Commanders, Captains and Admirals. No consequences at all. Enjoy yourself, kid. And those where in the days when you had to send film out to a commercial lab, FPO mailbox and all.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 10:54:27 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by DOB2RTO on Tue Nov 6 20:59:57 2007. Said camera and photographs could be seized as evidence of wrong doing (ie trespassing) but other copies of the photos could still be posted without let.ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:03:23 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:45:56 2007. No harm at all. The issue is the "fuss", which is based on bullcrap. The train was in a public part of the station and the photo was taken from there. What I don't understand is why anyone would even suggest that this photo could not be taken. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:04:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:17:15 2007. So? Who cares? They aren't above their own rules and regulations. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 11:04:41 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor for ALL 3 LINES!!! on Tue Nov 6 20:20:20 2007. No. Not at all.Sometimes things happen in plain sight. Like a 142 that climbs over the fence. Everybody can see that! And not from MTA property either. And if the MTA chooses to keep the line open and the trains running, then anything that can be seen from the platform is fair game. Now as for this incident. If it happened in a station that was opened to the public, than any photos that were taken before the station was closed to the public are fair game. Heck, I'd probably give copies to the MTA to help them in their investigations, though of course in a static scene that would not be necessary. But like if I was filming a train coming into a station and it splits a switch taking out a platform and dozens of geese, yeah, they sure as hell would be interested in it. Of course, so would FOX News, and I'd be sure to keep a copy that I could sell to them. ROAR |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:08:09 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Nov 6 20:29:12 2007. They have no control over that. What they want is irrelevant. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:09:31 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:03:23 2007. Only problem that "could" have been was if they had the area sealed off for "safety reasons" beacuse they can do that. Since Power was off and personel was working to remove the damaged train.Thats what i think was more of the issue that the picture being shown online. Other than that no biggie.. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:11:04 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:59:28 2007. Actually, most do understand that if the MTA didn't want this pic taken, and if it was taken by an employee, the "beast" would strike back. The question is moot, since the pic was not taken by an employee. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:12:23 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:04:36 2007. So? Who cares? They aren't above their own rules and regulations.Think So?? Got news for you... Anybody can say that when they dont work for the Emm-Tee-Yaa.. Only place that i know of that can "supercede" thier "own" rules.. That means change them as they see fit... |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Nov 7 11:13:48 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 21:01:27 2007. Unless BMT Lines works for the MTA..Did i miss that?? If I did work for them believe me my hobby would be something other than trains ;-) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:14:18 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:08:09 2007. They have no control over thatI agree let em eat cake.. What they want is irrelevant. To You yeah it is.. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:15:08 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Tue Nov 6 20:29:41 2007. The pic was clearly taken from an area open to the public. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:16:06 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by BMTLines on Wed Nov 7 11:13:48 2007. If I did work for them believe me my hobby would be something other than trains ;-)I agree i like to talk about trains but my hobby is sports,cant get enough of it i am wearing out my DVR taping games!! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:17:35 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:09:31 2007. The area does not looked sealed off at all. Why are we arguing over all these hypothetical issues when they clearly don't apply here? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:19:22 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:12:23 2007. I was specifically referring to non-employees. The MTA can't order people to do something it's own rules state CAN be done. I've worked for asshole bosses and I understand the concept of not giving them anything to use against you, even if you may be in the right. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:19:33 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:15:08 2007. The pic was clearly taken from an area open to the public.Read my orher post if its "sealed off" then its not open to the public right? I have seen them do that at Lenox a few Years back they had the Platform taped off due to a train with a Runaway Motor.. Nobody was allowed in that station until they said it was "safe"(the magic word) they had to take the M1,2,7 or 102 to 145th Street. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 7 11:19:33 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by FarRock on Tue Nov 6 21:28:53 2007. Those photos look OK, and authorized in as much as that dude leaning against the damaged car is not wearing any MTA identification, and there is a reflection of an MTA employee in the operator's window who does not seem to be concerned by the presence of this dude and the photographer.These pictures were taken a long time after the accident, there is a wreck train down there trying to sort things out, and those things cannot get there quickly at all. It is likely enough that the station was reopened to service before these cars were pulled out of the tunnel. Clearly we are looking at the third car, and there is significant damage to coupler. If the LION were to make a bet, they will not fix this car either, give that its natural replacement is already on the property. ROAR |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:21:47 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:17:35 2007. Im not arguing at all just stating a point..Beacuse it dont "look" sealed off dont mean it isnt either right? Maybe it was maybe it wasnt... What makes you think i dont have "information" about the "incident" as well? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Nov 7 11:23:46 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO: Re: M Train Bumper car...., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 7 11:19:22 2007. I was specifically referring to non-employeesAh i see.. I've worked for asshole bosses and I understand the concept of not giving them anything to use against you, even if you may be in the right. Exactly i agree with that beacuse i have seen it happen quite a few times.. |
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