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Posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007 In hearings last week into his qualifications to become Chairman of the MTA, H. Dale Hemmerdinger acknowledged his lack of knowledge about many transit issues. Lack of Knowledge Didn't Hinder Peter Kalikow...I'm sure Hemmerdinger will do a hecka a job |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Mon Oct 22 22:22:21 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. Heh, sounds like of those guys who gets a job for the hell of it...at the same time, i'm not saying we need a foamer in there, but would it kill for someone to KNOW about the system or something? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Oct 23 09:49:03 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by EastSideRider on Mon Oct 22 22:22:21 2007. >>>>>...one of those guys who gets a job for the hell of it...<<<H. Dale Hemmerdinger BIRTH: October 31, 1944, Washington, D.C. EDUCATION: New York University Graduate School New York University, B.A., 1967 Riverdale Country School, 1963 PERSONAL: Mr. Hemmerdinger is married and has two children and four grandchildren. He resides in New York City. CURRENT AFFILIATIONS: President and Director of The Hemmerdinger Corporation The Hemmerdinger Corporation is a commercial and residential real estate ownership and development company based in New York City. President, Atco Properties & Management Chairman, Atlas Real Estate Funds, Inc. President, Atco Properties Services Corp. Board Member, Valley National Bank Trustee/Chairman Emeritus, Citizens Budget Commission Trustee, NYC Police Foundation Secretary/Treasurer, NYC Police Foundation Executive Vice President, Realty Foundation of New York Trustee - New York University Member - NYU Budget/Finance Committee Chair - NYU Alumni Relations Committee Member - NYU Library Committee Member - NYU Executive Committee Partner - New York City Partnership Member - Real Estate Board of New York FORMER AFFILIATIONS: Commissioner of the City of New York - Conciliation and Appeals Board |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the |
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Posted by GIS Man on Tue Oct 23 13:42:18 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Oct 23 09:49:03 2007. What is a "hemmer" and how do you "ding" it?Bob |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Oct 23 13:47:42 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. However, Kalikow wasn't the best on many issues, especially with respect to equipment reliability when the going gets tough...although not as bad as Richard Ravitch, who ran the MTA straight into the ground (and I'm surprised he lasted so long as head---unless he was giving some.) |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Oct 23 14:48:45 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. If he knows nothing..what is his purpose? |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Tue Oct 23 18:47:10 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Oct 23 09:49:03 2007. Still means nothing if he doesn't know the system...and in terms of all of those jobs, I sure hope he's applied all that experience to himself, or else its a big waste |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post |
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Posted by Charles G on Tue Oct 23 21:48:19 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. It's good to see the Spitzer administration has reversed years of giving out key jobs to political flunkies and fund raisers.Thank goodness that Paturkey guy is gone. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Oct 23 21:49:56 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Charles G on Tue Oct 23 21:48:19 2007. However, he could have given the job to an outsider with experience in the industry. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 23 21:52:25 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Charles G on Tue Oct 23 21:48:19 2007. At least the young Democrats on this board are getting an education about real politics. |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Oct 23 21:53:25 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Oct 23 21:49:56 2007. don't you detect the sarcasm in Charles's post? |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Oct 23 21:55:57 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 23 21:52:25 2007. Yes, Hemmerdinger looks like a clone of Kalikow. Real Estate. |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 23 21:59:20 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by BIE on Tue Oct 23 21:55:57 2007. The only difference is WHO he raised money for. |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post |
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Posted by BIE on Tue Oct 23 22:20:39 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 23 21:59:20 2007. Yup. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Oct 23 22:38:26 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by GIS Man on Tue Oct 23 13:42:18 2007. Sewing machine and a hammer? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Oct 23 22:40:17 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by BIE on Tue Oct 23 21:53:25 2007. Well, now I'm regretting my Spitzer vote more and more...unfortunately, New York State has a sentence of 34+ months left. |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 23 22:44:15 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Oct 23 22:40:17 2007. Saddest part is that I've known John Faso since 1985. It would have been EVEN stupider if HE'd won. What New York *really* needs to do is put the Queens Democratic club (source of all troubles since Donald Manes and Padre Cuomo) out of business and let some OTHER borough be kingmaker. :(But Faso is DEFINITELY not what we needed. :( |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 23 23:09:38 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. Waiting for Ron from Bayside's assessment. It'll probably be a rant against the TA worker, transit buff and foamer, and his love of ALL transit managers despite many not being able to drive a bus or train in customer service if thier life depended on it! |
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Posted by Jeromeline on Wed Oct 24 00:10:08 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. Just as The Who sang it "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss" |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 24 00:24:15 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Charles G on Tue Oct 23 21:48:19 2007. This guy is a clone..A CLONE of the last MTA CHIEF!A CLONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Wed Oct 24 00:34:16 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Tue Oct 23 23:09:38 2007. "Yup as we all know the egg for the Fulton center is needed more than just keeping stations rehabed etc." |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 00:46:11 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Oct 23 09:49:03 2007. Like EastSideRider was saying. |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 24 00:50:35 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 24 00:24:15 2007. Let me start by saying I'm not at ALL impressed by Schvitzer ... but I personally knew the alternative and he would have been FAR worse. Folks already know what little I thought of Kalikow, but for now my own opinion of Hemmerdinger is that the jury's still out. FWIW, the state senate confirmed him earlier tonight so he's now "officially in."Kalikow left dead bodies behind everywhere he went PRIOR to him phucking up the MTA. It would be interesting to see if anyone can find any episodes equivalent to Kalikow and the NY Post at the hands of Hemmerdinger. So far, none that I'm aware of. He's supposedly done a pretty good job at his prior commitments so for now, jury's out to my own mind. Now I don't want to become an apostle of "Dr. Ron" but in all fairness, the CHAIRMAN of an agency doesn't concern themselves with the nuts and bolts, that's what the very next layer BELOW them in the chain are for. And it appears as though we're all agreed that Howard Roberts appears more than up to the task, reporting directly to Mr. Hemmerdinger for whatever knowledge or expertise is required with respect to the subways and what needs to be known for good decisions. What Hemmerdinger is responsible for is subways, buses, commuter rail, roads, bridges, tunnels, property and FUNDING. Those who came to the defense of Kalikow have already made us aware of what Hemmerdinger's specific job is I hope ... that all said, yes - it was embarassing that he didn't know all the nuts and bolts - probably doesn't even RIDE the subways. I don't see that as a problem as long as Roberts is at the helm for the subways. Let's give Hemmerdinger a major crisis or two to wade through and let's see if he earns his combat pay ... then, like Kalikow before him, we'll have something to actually MEASURE as far as whether he's fit for the job or not ... like I said ... so far, I haven't formed an opinion myself yet and certainly haven't because he said what he said. The way *I* look at it, he was HONEST about it. That's a REFRESHING start! :) |
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Posted by EastSideRider on Wed Oct 24 03:07:20 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 24 00:50:35 2007. *T*R*U*T*H* Good point, lets see what he can do... |
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Posted by David on Wed Oct 24 05:37:23 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Oct 23 21:49:56 2007. As far as I can recall, the only MTA Chairman with hands-on operating experience (in nearly 40 years of MTA's existence) was Peter Stangl. A few Chairman were on the MTA Board before becoming Chairman (Harold Fisher, Peter Kalikow, etc.), but they didn't have operating experience.David |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 07:04:21 2007, in response to MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Mon Oct 22 22:14:53 2007. What does the "H" stand for?Couldn't be "hack", could it . . . ? |
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Posted by heypaul on Wed Oct 24 09:45:18 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 24 07:04:21 2007. I've been unable to find out what the "h" stands for. I'm now wondering if it's an affectation, sort of like the "S" in Harry S. Truman. What I also found out is that Hemmerdinger was nominated for this position back in June of this year. At the time, Sewell Chan of the Times reported that the power of the MTA Chairman has been much reduced since Spitzer's reorganization of the agency. Reduced Powers of MTA Chairman |
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Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Wed Oct 24 13:27:09 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Oct 24 00:34:16 2007. You know, I have read those threads on the Fulton Center and eggs and such and have no freaking idea what anyone was talking about! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 24 14:39:10 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 24 00:50:35 2007. Honesty..and the MTA..?I never thought I'd see those two words mixed in the same sentence! So you are saying ,in a nut shell,wait and see..give they guy a chance... Sure..but know this.. "Kill-em-all" was given the SAME chance..and he screwed the TA over like no tommorrow ..left us with debt up to our ears..with no getting from under it untill my grandchildren are OLD..if thats even possible! The new guy can't possibly do any worse than that..unless he starts with the stupid idea that massive service cuts will somehow BALANCE THE BOOKS[Now WHERE have I heard that one before?] Oh..from Killemall! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 24 14:45:50 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by Edwards! on Wed Oct 24 14:39:10 2007. Heh. Now you see why I said what I said there ... the "I only know what I read in the papers" aren't the words of a proper apparatchik. Not a single "I'll get back to you on that" or "I'll follow this up with a written statement" or any of the other divert-speak ... knowing the game, I *do* find this refreshing.The ONE thing in this guy's favor is that he is NOT under the control of the D'Amato ... and so far, no crisis from which to actually judge his performance. Like I said, I'm highly underwhelmed by Schvitzer so this ain't no "apologizing" ... but so far, the fact that he didn't lay down a minefield of bullsquirt tells me to give him a chance ... for a little while. Am about to post something good in off-topic. :) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 24 14:56:06 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Oct 23 22:44:15 2007. And someone who could do very well in that job...Mayor Mike...he doesn't want the job. Oh well... |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 24 14:57:06 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by David on Wed Oct 24 05:37:23 2007. And people like Stangl, or at least those with degrees in transportation or urban planning, are what the MTA needs at the top. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 24 14:59:20 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by heypaul on Wed Oct 24 09:45:18 2007. Good...now the position should be abolished...and while at it, a mass reorganization that leaves three heads under Sander: Bus, Rail (subway would be folded under rail), and roads (TBTA). Every current head would be a candidate for one of those jobs, but outsiders should be interviewed also. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 24 15:12:50 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 24 14:56:06 2007. That's how you can "spot the wisdom." :( |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Oct 24 18:47:17 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by Edwards! on Tue Oct 23 14:48:45 2007. That's what I'd like to know.Also. when Lee Sander was chosen last December to to be the Executive Director of the MTA, a position formerly held by Katherine Lapp, didn't the press say that the jobs of Chairman and Executive Director would be combined? I thought Kalikow only wanted to stay until May so he could take credit for the groundbreaking of the Second Avenue Subway, and when he left, Sander would assume the Chairman's duties. Then several months ago there was talk of choosing a new chairman which I didn't understand because I thought one was already chosen. Am I the only one who had this impression? |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Oct 24 18:53:07 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the, posted by BrooklynBus on Wed Oct 24 18:47:17 2007. Nope ... but Schvitzer *does* have a big "waiting list" of those who now expect a job ... happens with EVERY new administration. I was willing to take the job, but couldn't cut a check big enough. Now DROP and give me twenty! Heh. |
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Posted by PATHman on Thu Oct 25 20:16:03 2007, in response to Re: MTA Chairman Nominee's Lack of Transit Knowledge Should Be No Cause for Concern... He Reads the Post, posted by Charles G on Tue Oct 23 21:48:19 2007. I'm sure all of the illegal aliens are thanking Spitzer. |
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