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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 08:51:16 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 26 08:28:03 2007. Hmmmm. You didn't DO that place either, huh? Nope ... been there, done that, boy's ACCURATE. :( |
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Posted by shiznit1987 on Wed Sep 26 09:23:37 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 25 11:57:43 2007. Evil Capitalists. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 26 09:23:45 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 08:51:16 2007. I won't argue with ya. If you say it smells like goat, I'm not pipin' in with "lamb". Nosirree!your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fytton on Wed Sep 26 09:31:36 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Sep 25 11:57:43 2007. 'Because they probably want to build a sixty story skyscraper so they can make more money.'It isn't impossible to retain an old building (or at least its facade) and put a new tall buiding on top of it. See the Biltmore Hotel in Pershing Square, downtown Los Angeles (one of my favourite hotels). |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 09:35:18 2007, in response to Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:30:39 2007. Are you sure?http://www.travelnow.com/hotels/entry.jsp?cid=70589&hotelID=142043&city=new+york&state=NY&country=USA& |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 09:37:21 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Fytton on Wed Sep 26 09:31:36 2007. It isn't impossible to retain an old building (or at least its facade) and put a new tall buiding on top of it. See the Biltmore Hotel in Pershing Square, downtown Los Angeles (one of my favourite hotels).The Hearst Building at 57th/8th. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 09:38:23 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 09:35:18 2007. Yes, read the thread. Also GOOGLE it and read what you find. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Sep 26 09:44:44 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 26 08:41:21 2007. had they kept shopping, sales would have been better |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 10:07:26 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 22:06:36 2007. On one of my trips to Las Vegas over the last few years, I visited an Applebees. They never even heard of "Eatin' good in the neighborhood" out there.Bob |
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Posted by Fytton on Wed Sep 26 10:15:32 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 11:57:07 2007. 'The one [Budapest hotel] we chose had reviews posted by many customres - many of the reviews from Americans were unfavourable, all the ones from non-Americans were very favourable''Americans are too used to cookie cutter franchises.' Exactly - I was trying to think of a suitable way of putting it. Americans positively prefer international (i.e. usually American) chains of hotels and restaurants becasue they are the 'safe' option. Many (but not all) Europeans prefer places with individuality, and avoid the chains except as a last resort. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 10:25:47 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 11:02:09 2007. And what will happen to the most famous telephone number in the world (PEnnsylvania 6-5000)? The Hotel has had that same phone number, now of course 1-212-736-5000, for all those years.Bob P.S. The number originally began life as PENnsylvania 5000. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 26 10:32:14 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Fytton on Tue Sep 25 05:05:03 2007. My daughter - who happens to be a Dave Barry fan - stayed at the Hotel Penn very happily after 2002.I stayed at the Hotel Penn several times in 2005 and 2006, all but once in beautifully renovated rooms. The one unrenovated room I stayed in had the "walls made of compressed grime," broken furniture, all the lamps were unplugged, and only one outlet in the room worked. But it was still a pleasant stay, and I never heard anyone through the walls as Dave Barry described. I would certainly stay there again, regarless of the type of room I was assigned. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 10:32:42 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 10:25:47 2007. I think Vornado would be able to keep the account open and have that line go to the new building's management office or front desk or the like. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 26 10:44:56 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:14:56 2007. I'm referring to my Gimbels. I didn't know you had them there.But then again, someone posted photos of an old Caldor in the background too in the last year. If anyone had artifacts that remained, you would've thought Philly would keep 'em longer than New York. With the rebuilding and all. |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 26 10:56:49 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 09:35:18 2007. I agree, something fishy.Conventions are still listing the hotels, and conventioners aren't slow sloppy people, if they sign a contract, they get the rooms. The website doesn't say anything. And I'm on the reservations system, and it's giving me available dates through LATE 2008.... So I'm going onto a hotel news source....and all I can find is..... NEW YORK, April 2, 2001 - New York’s Hotel Pennsylvania announced today the completion of the first phase of their renovation program. The hotel, one of the city’s legendary properties, and among the four largest, has completely rebuilt the lobby, elevators, and is in the process of a floor-by-floor makeover. Half of the main elevator bank has been completely replaced, with the remaining portion coming on-line shortly. Hotel Pennsylvania Named 2006 eMarketer of the Year by TravelCLICK and HSMAI; New York City Landmark Hotel Recognized at 50th Annual Adrian Awards Gala / January 2007 --- Why is the only place that talks about this is here and wikipedia??? Vornado's plans take advantage of the fact that the site is the only remaining area in Midtown Manhattan that would not require special permits for development of a new office project of that size. As an original statler hotel, I'm amazed this isn't National Trust Historic Hotel. But then again, I"m from Florida, they don't even build a CVS without something shady in the background going on. |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 10:57:36 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Karl B on Tue Sep 25 22:24:19 2007. Not long after Gimbel's closed, I was passing by that corner and a German woman traveling with her child stopped me. She was looking for Gimbel's, quite unaware that it had closed. I hope she had other reasons for coming to NY...Bob |
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Posted by GIS Man on Wed Sep 26 11:13:19 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 26 10:56:49 2007. Fishy? As Teal'c would say, "INDEED". Perhaps "heypaul" visited "SUBWAYSURF" or otherwise swiped his ID before posting this.LOL Bob |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 11:19:09 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 26 10:44:56 2007. Gimbels New York City Store was about 1/2 the size of Macy*s and one block south. It is presently called Manhattan Mall and abuts the Hotel Pensylvania. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 11:24:16 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 26 09:23:45 2007. "Lamb" is kewl .. GOAT means patties, mon! Yummy! :)No ... goat would be IMPROVEMENT. :0 |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 11:28:31 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Tue Sep 25 22:34:02 2007. I still hope that has not been dropped from the plans or anything like that.They have not really done much work on the lower portion of the building in a couple of years, because they are using the ground floor for material and equipment storage, as they slowly complete the upper floors. (the southeast corner on the ground floor is beginning to take shape, however). So I cannot tell what is going on underground. I just called Durst to see what I could find out, and they didn't really know much (one person in the construction dept. was away). I still don't see where it would come out on the Times Sq. side, and they didn't know if it would connect with the Conde Nast building (which is inbetween the BOA and Times Sq, and they own as well). The date on the whole building now is sometime next year. Also, on 33rd St. I had written the Mall, suggesting that it would be beneficial for them to reopen the passage. As it is, the guy who supplied the other pictures said it is connected by a door to the Mall's utility tunnel. So perhaps, they might make a deal with Vornado to share the passage, like the one on 49th connecting 745 7th with 1251 6th. |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Wed Sep 26 11:34:16 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 11:19:09 2007. A partnership consisting of Larry Silverstein, Melvin Simon and William Zeckendorf Jr. has bought the vacant structure and now is examining various possibilities, none of which include returning one of the last of New York's ''big stores'' to its original use.The World Trade Center guy? hm... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 11:35:54 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 11:28:31 2007. Vornado owns the mall. They own everything in a straight line from Sixth Ave to Penn Station along 33rd St. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 11:44:43 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 11:35:54 2007. They own One/Two/Seven and Eleven Penn plaza also and manage the retail space in NYP. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 11:49:24 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 11:44:43 2007. Yes, I read their website.But as long as we are adding info, I'll add that as one of the developers of Moynihan Station, they will control everything from Sixth Ave to Ninth Ave in a straight line. |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 12:02:09 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by orange blossom special on Wed Sep 26 11:34:16 2007. With all this talk about the mall and its general area; I forgot the announcement (from April, already) that J C Penney would be moving into the Mall!http://www.theshophound.typepad.com//the_shophound/2007/04/jc_penney_confi.html I had thought "oh, good, they're probably going to take the space on top that was converted to offices for a nonn-retail firm, and reexpand the Mall", but this article says JC Penney will take the bottom three floors (from the street, down)! So All those tenants will have to be relocated! It would be nice if the offices moved out, and they did use that space for retail again! But now with JCPenney taking the lower floors, they will have complete (sole) use of the service and utility area leading to the passageway! Perhaps they might want to reopen it, so they can be connected to Penn Sta.! |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 12:05:10 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 11:35:54 2007. That's good! So now there is only one company involved with the passage! Perhaps they will see that it would be useful to connect their tenants (which as I have just posted, will include JC Penney on the lower floors where the passage is), to the Penn Station concourse. |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 12:06:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 11:35:54 2007. (Forgot to mention. When I had written the mall, it was a few years ago, before Vornado owned it). |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Sep 26 12:32:13 2007, in response to Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007. Just goes to show...Just when you think there are no more subway mysteries left to uncover, this comes along. Thanks for posting. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 12:33:14 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 21:00:50 2007. *I* did not doubt you at all. Vorando Realty Trust both owns and manages properties. I do not know which are which, and did not even *know* for sure that they were involved with these properties. The post I was replying to did doubt you but what the heck. LION has no control over such other beasts unless he should EAT them.ROAR |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Sep 26 12:39:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 22:27:32 2007. OK, I did a little more exploring today. This is the exit on 32nd St. that I remember coming out of. How I got there from the passageway I still don't know. There was a bus in the way so I could only an angle view. Also I was incorrect in an earlier post - it is not a Sbarro on the NE corner of 32/7 as you can see from the green sign on the left. Next I went to the 33rd St. Entrance, went down the stairs to the right and turned to the right at the bottom where ther is a door. Luckily, the vents on the door were bent and I was able to get a picture of the passageway inside. You can see that there is some temporary lighting down there.  Here's is the map with a red arrow showing where I took the above picture from. 
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 12:39:54 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 11:19:09 2007. In the Beginning there was Macy*s between 34 and 35 and occupied the whole block. There was Sacks 34th Street between 33 and 34 and occupied about 1/3rd of the block. In the 70s Korvettes was in there. Gimbles was between 32nd and 33rd Streets and occupied about 2/3rds of the block. It also had a building south of 32nd Street and there was a high story passageway between the buildings. Methinks they had their upholstery shop there.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 12:41:08 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 21:03:24 2007. The Building that the Franciscans put up.ROAR |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 12:46:51 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 22:06:36 2007. Applebee's has good steaks and a decent price, but it caters to kids (people in their 20s) and so it is noisy and a poor environment for enjoying good food.ROAR |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 12:56:32 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Sep 26 12:32:13 2007. You're welcome. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Sep 26 12:58:04 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Orange Blossom Special on Wed Sep 26 10:56:49 2007. Why is the only place that talks about this is here and wikipedia???It has been discussed on various architecture boards for a couple of years. Whether the sidewalk bridge has to do with any actual demolition work beginning or something unrelated, I can't say. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 12:59:05 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Sep 26 12:39:32 2007. Nice passageway photo. Thanks! |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 16:23:20 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 12:46:51 2007. Applebee's has good steaks and a decent price, but it caters to kids (people in their 20s) and so it is noisy and a poor environment for enjoying good food.Perhaps....but so does.... TGIFridays (even more so than Applebees) Bennigans Pizza Uno - Chicago Bar & Grill Ruby Tuesday (to an extent) ...and the list goes on - all those chain places do, as people in their 20's is where the money is in those kind of establishments. They are not meant to be a diner. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 16:23:20 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 12:46:51 2007. Applebee's has good steaks and a decent price, but it caters to kids (people in their 20s) and so it is noisy and a poor environment for enjoying good food.Perhaps....but so does.... TGIFridays (even more so than Applebees) Bennigans Pizza Uno - Chicago Bar & Grill Ruby Tuesday (to an extent) ...and the list goes on - all those chain places do, as people in their 20's is where the money is in those kind of establishments. They are not meant to be a diner. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 16:23:49 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 16:23:20 2007. Oh and add Chilis to that too.... |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 16:29:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Sep 26 12:39:32 2007. ANOTHER inside picture?Well, that's the 7th Avenue end. There used to be a huge slam gate there, as wide as the passage itself. I saw that open once, and there was some fire in some room off to the side (and the walls do look smoke charred), so it would be open. Shortly afterward, they built the wall with the small door, which says "station Dept. It was completely dark looking in, and you could not see light from the other end. Well, the person who posted the other pictures last year said that they did build a wall right where the mall property ends, so it does not go all the way through. That would kind of make sense, as both ends had different owners (the mall, and the hotel), and it is in those properties' respective vaults. But now the owners are the same (Vornado)! So it is just a matter of Vornado being interested in reopening and maintaining it. (Again, it would be beneficial to their tenants on the mall end!) I just got through emailing the suggestion about it to them. I want to e-mail JC Penney to, but it doesn't make sense as they are not in there yet. (I was not able to update my page with the other pictures yet, because of some system error or maintenance in AOL; can't access ftp space). |
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Posted by murray1575 on Wed Sep 26 17:45:39 2007, in response to Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:30:39 2007. If/when the hotel is torn down what will happen to its famous phone number (PEnnsylvainia 6-5000) one of the best known in NY? (made famous of course by Glenn Miller) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Wed Sep 26 17:56:02 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:31:02 2007. Good points. There is a similar situation with subjects other than architecture. Some have expressed here before that NTT's are also a reflection of sameness throughout the world, or proposed platform doors, and other ideas that are international style. But there are two sides to it: While some argue the above is a loss of a city's unique character, others would consider it lagging behind and that such these styles are imperative to have in a global world. And, of course, the "tourist friendly" aspect of people having to see familiar things wherever they go, also discussed here recently. |
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Posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 20:15:05 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Buffer on Wed Sep 26 17:56:02 2007. Yeah, but part of the whole thing of tourism is seeing something different. Like goinf to Europe where all the old buildings have the "Europe" look (with the slanted roofs and stuff). It looks like they are keeping a lot more of that over there. I guess all these tycoons flying around the world want Europe to be the historic place and America to look futuristic (like only the newest sections of Europe). |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Wed Sep 26 20:33:09 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Eric B on Wed Sep 26 11:28:31 2007. Durst still touts the passageway on its website, so I gather it is still going to happen. I am not sure where it will connect on the Times Square end. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 21:58:10 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 16:23:20 2007. Well, of those I have been to only Applebee's. I have also been to Ralphie's, but only in their private dining room, away from the maddening crowd.For something different, Try Georgia and the Owl in Amidon, ND. I was misguided enough to order the "King Size" prime rib (for $9.95), not only could I not finish it, but the portion that I took home in a dogie bag made FOUR sandwiches. And I NEVER thought I'd see the day when a LION could not finish off his Wildebeest in one sitting. ROAR |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 22:50:27 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Sep 26 21:58:10 2007. Some how I don't think that place will attract the "money crowd" of people in their 20's that Applebees, Chilis, TGI Fridays, Bennigans, and Riby Tuesday, etc target..... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 27 10:36:21 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 22:50:27 2007. I don't see why not. It *is* the only restaurant in the county. Only restaurant in a thousand square miles or more.AND people *do* drive from hundreds of miles away just to eat there. ROAR |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 27 10:48:52 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 27 10:36:21 2007. You guys need an Applebees or a TGIFridays.... :) |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 27 10:53:25 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by murray1575 on Wed Sep 26 17:45:39 2007. Well, they can always start a song...Hotel |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 27 11:16:40 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 27 10:48:52 2007. There *IS* an Applebees in Dickinson and two more in Bismarck. I have eaten in the ones in Bismarck and Fargo, and even in the one in Dickinson, come to think of it, but given a druther, I'd rather eat at Bonanza, the steak might not be as good, but it is a quieter place to eat. Kids make far less noise than unruly adults. The Elks is a good place to eat with good steaks, almost no waiting, and an adult (over 38) crowd.Jack's has excellent steaks, but it is more than an hour wait to be seated. The popovers at the Ramkota Hotel are to die for. Dickinson (pop 15,000) has more than 100 eateries. Here in Richardton, there is one eatery (not counting the Abbey, of course) which has decent foods but is not a restaurant as much as an eatery. ROAR |
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