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Posted by JohnL on Tue Sep 25 21:58:19 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 18:42:11 2007. How? Brian linked to a post on railroad.net. |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 21:58:59 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 14:40:17 2007. From HERE:Photo of Herald Sq end of the passageway: 
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Gimbels / Penn / Herald Sq / 33rd St Pasageway |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 22:05:21 2007, in response to Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:30:39 2007. Finally found this: Subchatter Eric B's page about it.Got link from THIS POST. |
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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 22:06:36 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 18:36:22 2007. What about pizza's? Papa Johns and Dominos....you only have to worry about those outside the New York Metro area.... In NY, they don't have a chance. That's how Applebee's gets around. I actually like Applebees, however, I have to say, I do agree. They were fine when it was just a few around, but now they are everywhere, and they put the other places out of business. I now have at least 7 Applebees in easy reach, at least that I know of, there are probably even more..... |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 22:14:44 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 20:45:50 2007. They keep rating the subway lines. Maybe they should do a survey on which line affords you the best nights sleep |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 22:16:37 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Karl B on Tue Sep 25 21:01:25 2007. That means I have, and what a artifact.I remember the sign, and one of the locations, but I'm not sure if I ever been inside. Probably was closed and all I remember is the empty shell...before Sears took it over in the 90's. So many department stores back in the day. |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 22:20:07 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 20:08:32 2007. Yes, I was headed for the LIRR, but I thought that the passageway didn't go all the way to Penn Station, which is why I exited prior to 7th Ave. |
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Posted by Karl B on Tue Sep 25 22:24:19 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 22:16:37 2007. I'm old enough to have shopped there and remember when they were strong competition to the old Macy's.When my dad started to work at Macy's in 1958, we never shopped at Gimbel's anymore. |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 22:27:32 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Sep 25 22:20:07 2007. AS you can see in the diagram HERE, you would have either come up outside on the NE corner of 33/7 or you would have gone down a level, through the underpass, and ended up in Penn Station. So I don't see how you would have gotten to 32 St outside. |
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Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Tue Sep 25 22:34:02 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO #1 Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Sep 25 21:54:32 2007. If the Durst Organization sees merit in a new 42nd Street passageway under their buildings (the Condé Nast Tower and the under-construction Bank of America Tower) connecting the 6th Avenue IND station to Times Square, then perhaps Vornado will see similar merit in reviving the one between Herald Square and Penn Station. These days, it should improve the value of their properties. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Sep 25 22:36:54 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 09:44:11 2007. I figured. Meant to indicate that my response was a "general audience" kinda thingy. |
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Re: Penn Passageway Photos |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 22:57:45 2007, in response to Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007. WOW! I never knew anyone had pictures like these! I thought mine (which you just linked to on another branch of the thread) were all that there were). And this thread is over a year old!I see Lion just made a post on that thread today, after someone else revived it 20 days ago. Lion or anyone else on this board, who is a member of that board, please post the link to my site over there, since they were not sure where exactly the tunnel was. (I'm not a member of that board). And then someone said they saw one of the doors open?! (If you're talking about the ones to the right of the passage on the 6th Ave. side, i.e. note #1 in my drawing). I'm always trying to catch them open, but I never see anyone using them. I see in this last picture, the stairway leading up, and the space right next to it. That must be what leads to the doors. I wonder how the person on the other board got these pictures! I'm going to add them to my page! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Sep 25 23:04:12 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 22:14:44 2007. Word is, it's the (E) as long as you bring clothespins for your nose. Fortunately, don't work for the state anymore. :)But a HINT for visitors ... midtown is an interesting place to visit, but you want to be sure that any hotel you stay in has SOUNDPROOFING and curtains that work. Times Square and across from MSG are not quiet or dim places to be. (grin) |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:18:48 2007, in response to Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 16:32:25 2007. Also, forgot to mention. If you think the narrowness of it is a hindrance (I wonder if it was made narrower by the mall construction, since on the other board the person said there were utility tunnels built which is what the concrete block wall on the left side is), I just walked through a NYC Subway passage just as narrow, and apparently just as long, (and nearly as dark) today: At 191st St. The #1 I was riding to work kept tripping on some junk on the tracks, so I went out to look for a cab. Never having used that station before, I head to what I could tell is the exit, and see this incredibly long narrow passage with the exit practically a point of light in the distance. I was like HOLY...! I went back, then thrn took the elevator up to the other side. All the gypsy cabs had passengers. I try to see if the train is moving yet, but it is still moving a few feet and tripping. Figuring something was probably wrong with the train, and they were going to have to be pulling portions and stuff like that; I tried the tunnel, and finally was able to share a car with someone going part of the way. (Still ended up with all 3 trips, but I have plenty of WAA in the breaks, and was actually back in place for the final run!)So funny the 33rd St tunnel should come up today, because that's the first thing I think of whenever I see a passage like that! If they can have that open, they can have 33rd St. open, if guarded properly, like the new one under 49th between 6th and 7th. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 23:21:23 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 22:57:45 2007. anyone else on this board, who is a member of that board, please post the link to my site over thereSure, done. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 23:30:07 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:18:48 2007. 191 St is a VERY cool station!BEFORE RENOVATION:  AFTER RENOVATION:  TUNNEL:  MORE: LINK |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:31:02 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 09:42:01 2007. Or like everywhere else in the world. I think of all these bigwigs in real estate (just like the leaders of every other business and govt), who with their money are flying all around the world regularly, and the new buildings they build are generally the same as what is built anywhere else in the world. In ERA slideshows ofEurope, you often see the streetcars moving past newer apartment complexes, and it's the same highrise "box" look, and that is the way they look over here. The cities have all realized that highrise projects for the poor were a mistake. So now you see nice little townhouses (with a lot of classic "pre-war" style masonry (jack arches, etc) appearing in the ghetto. But for the rich, they are still into the highrise "box" concept. As someone said elswhere in the discussion, they have to have floor to ceiling/wall to wall windows now. Their offices at corporate headquarters are the same. Same style everywhere in the world. So the world is like a giant neighborhood to these jet-set real estate moguls, and they are making it look all the same, and it is apparently nothing to them. Meanwhile, where was all of this money 30 years ago, when they were letting all the cities rot? It's like they did that, with the inner city being full of poverty, and now all of a sudden, they decide they want the cities back, and just sweep everyone out. |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:46:28 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 23:21:23 2007. THANX!!! |
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Posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:50:18 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 23:30:07 2007. Yeah, the station is nice. Though that tunnel didn't look that bright. I think the lighting might be different now. I didn't remember it being sodiums. (and because the walls are just paint, it did look dingy, and the floor dirtier).But see what I mean? It is about just as narrow, and just as long as 33rd St! Both should have moving walkways! |
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Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Sep 26 01:24:24 2007, in response to Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED, posted by UWS Greg on Tue Sep 25 14:07:48 2007. rather have a Plato's Retreat |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Sep 26 01:28:23 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Karl B on Tue Sep 25 22:24:19 2007. 'When my dad started to work at Macy's in 1958, we never shopped at Gimbel's anymore.' perhaps that's a reason why they closed..... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 26 04:42:59 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 11:02:09 2007. In a hundred years when they'll be making buildings out of buckytubes, people will lament the loss of the historic glass skyscrapers.And if they hadn't demolished a lot of small "historic" buildings, the city wouldn't have had any skyscrapers to begin with. If the "historic" Waldorf-Astoria hadn't been demolished, you wouldn't have had the Empire State Building. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 04:59:03 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 17:36:23 2007. Still a hotel |
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Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:06:47 2007, in response to Re: Get Rid of the Hotel Penna & Build what we NEED, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Sep 25 17:38:59 2007. no. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:13:58 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 22:16:37 2007. It has never been a Sears and it closed around 1985 when it was gutted and reappeared as "A and S Plaza". |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:14:56 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by orange blossom special on Tue Sep 25 22:16:37 2007. It has never been a Sears and it closed around 1985 when it was gutted and reappeared as "A and S Plaza". |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 05:23:02 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 26 04:42:59 2007. How much ya wanna bet when the world goes completely "buckballs" there'll be someone constantly lamenting the loss of the "Street Fan Window?" :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 05:27:54 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 04:59:03 2007. Ewwwwwww! :(OK, it's not QUITE an SRO ... but sure SMELLS like one. And them freaking LIGHTS when they put you on the upper floors, the windows that won't close (honk, beep, rrrrrrrrrr-rrrrrrr-honk-honk-honk all night) and NO bloody curtains, trickles for water pressure and no soap. Ah ... I get it. Somewhere along the line, WELFARE HOTELS got their CO's pulled. :( Mildew Plaza is one of the WORST dumps I've ever been in ... and as I said earlier, DID the "Albert" in the village. Another dump, but at least it was "interesting." :) When we came down in 2001 to spend a few days and hook up with Heypaul and a few others, we stayed at Leona Helmsley's dump on CP South. Now *THAT* was NICE! Same for the Barbarian Plaza and a few other places we've stayed over the years on "NOT the state dime" ... but man oh man ... Mildew Plaza, doing time in the State PENN and the Albert ... and some other non-descript dump by the Port Authority there ... wrecking ball can't come soon ENOUGH. :( |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 26 05:29:45 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 05:27:54 2007. You seem to be quite the elitist when it comes to hotels. Got a bit of Robert Moses in ya? Wrecking ball on national landmarks? |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Sep 26 05:35:25 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by Eric B on Tue Sep 25 23:50:18 2007. It is about just as narrow, and just as long as 33rd St! Both should have moving walkways!Funnily enough, I was thinking of Montparnasse-Bienvenüe... so much wider... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:37:48 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 26 05:29:45 2007. He's right, they ARE dumps. But this is the biggest dump of all. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 05:57:03 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Sep 26 05:29:45 2007. For the FIRST time ... "bloMe." Have you ever RESIDED in that dump? If you can provide me a room number, then I'll relent. If PENN DUMPSTER (and Dave Barry was SPOT on) and the MILDEW PLAZA are "landmarks" then perhaps their OWNERS might be encouraged into turning them INTO one? If you've chosen to turn NYC Communist from out of nowhere, then what are *YOU* doing about the slumlords which cause visitors to your "fair city" to vomit outside the lobby and SWEAR never to come back? Isn't that a bit MORE important than preserving some used up piece of CHIT which is not ONLY an eyesore and a menace to public health (PENN was the FIRST time I've EVER been diagnosed with BED BUG BITES, MILDEW PLAZA the second) and FLEAS! Sorry, mate ... it won't work. You've just imploded your own thoughts there. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 06:00:18 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:37:48 2007. *****DINGDINGDINGDINGDING!!!!!***** (No, I am *not* NOI, heh)*THAT* was the FOURTH DUMP. THANK YOU! :( |
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Posted by Rail Blue on Wed Sep 26 06:00:35 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 26 04:42:59 2007. In a hundred years when they'll be making buildings out of buckytubes, people will lament the loss of the historic glass skyscrapers.Only the ones of some architectural merit. I'd say an easy majority of buildings constructed 1950-2000 are of such dubious architectural merit that they deserve to be demolished. And I'd posit that a similar proportion deserved to be demolished in earlier times, just they largely have been by now. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 06:06:15 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Sep 26 06:00:35 2007. Ah ... wish 9/11 had never happened ... I'd be going ALONG with you on this about the "bad idea" of TUBES as skyscrapers. Oh qwap ... just said it. :(At least the "bad design" had the decency to do a "CDI" (Controlled Demolition Inc) style pancake with little damage outside its "envelope." Second time tonight I've said something that could be interpreted as "cruel but TRUE" without wanting to, but facts is facts. One of the things NEVER considered is how to safely take down an obsolete building quickly without extreme danger. WTC came down "smoothly" given all that happened because it was such a *LOUSY* design. Look at the demolition of Deutschebank next to Ground Zero as to an example of what a complicated mess taking down a skyscraper COULD have been. :( So call me heartless (sorry, I'm ONLY talking technical fact about the buildings themselves, NOTHING else) but NYC was DAMNED lucky it was WTC that fell down rather than something DESIGNED to be SOLID. In other words, you're ABOLUTELY right. :( |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 06:20:40 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 05:27:54 2007. Agggh ... guilt-pangs for what I've said that veered off "transit" earlier ... so let's bring this full circle, BACK on topic sorta ...The PENN Hotel, like all OTHER "merger properties of the Penn Central" as it went through its death shudders on rails and elsewhere, I suppose SHOULD be designated a "landmark" in retrospect as a MUSEUM of just how phucked up PennCentral actually became as they died. It's EVERY bit as skanky as their Bronx Local service as well as the infamous "New Canaan Express" and other trains that passed by my house in the Bronx with flames under almost EVERY car ... AT speed. :( So yeah, I think it SHOULD be a museum, a landmark ... but like 1723 Burnside, let's NOT let the owner rent out rooms in it, even to rats. :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:38:48 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 06:00:18 2007. nee: Hotel Carter. Last Vestige of the Old Times Square |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:44:32 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:38:48 2007. I mean nee: Hotel Dixie |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 26 06:45:49 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 05:37:48 2007. LOL that looks like teh box to a kids game.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:46:54 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:44:32 2007. Heh, the posters cost almost as much as a room. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 06:47:30 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:38:48 2007. Heh. Yep ... that's the dump I remember. Only stayed in THAT dump ONCE. Went down there with a TV production crew, four rooms - only TWO of which we could use since only two had electricity and running water. So we all dragged the bedding into the hall and into the two "not so bad" rooms, lined up the matresses on the floor like some Mormon ritual/Squeaky Fromm scene, yelled out "HELTER-SKELTER!" and all crashed for five minutes before the toilet upstairs provided "the tropical mood smell" (plus rainforest) ... so we retreated to ONE room, leaving the wet matresses behind, and felt the "morning woodie that ain't mine" at 7AM. Heh.Yeah, that's the joint ... like I said a few times already ... at least the ALBERT was "interesting" ... colorful characters MAKE life "interesting." Getting ROBBED, not so. Moo. :) |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 07:01:35 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 26 06:45:49 2007. Right. Love the way the way the 'copter is saying "helo". |
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Re: Gimbels / Penn / Herald Sq / 33rd St Pasageway |
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Posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Sep 26 07:09:07 2007, in response to Gimbels / Penn / Herald Sq / 33rd St Pasageway, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Sep 25 22:05:21 2007. That's what I was looking for. Thanks for posting it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 07:17:31 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Sep 26 06:46:54 2007. Well ... what makes Manhattan real estate the MOST interesing if the CHEAPNESS of their "acquirers." Wanna google, boy? Check out "Hotel Manhattan" which BECAME the Mildew Plaza because the phuckers were too CHEAP to replace the *M* on top! :)Got this thing about hotels that rent by the HOUR ... could you at LEAST hand me the damned sheets to bring up to the room and "knock,knock, housekeeping!" my DAMNED self? Heh. I can at last SHAKE the damned thing out before flinging it on a mattress which has collapsed as a result of TOO many whips and chains, thanya. (grin) Yep ... I *got* it now ... the NEW republican theme that will WORK! "Government NEEDS to get out of the people's bedroom and into the NoTel motel" ... alas, they're in toilets tapping their toes ... WITHOUT benefit of iPOD! Heh. |
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Re: Gimbels / Penn / Herald Sq / 33rd St Pasageway |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 26 07:39:28 2007, in response to Re: Gimbels / Penn / Herald Sq / 33rd St Pasageway, posted by Bob Andersen on Wed Sep 26 07:09:07 2007. You're welcome! |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 26 08:18:01 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Tue Sep 25 04:58:40 2007.  Eh, that's Dave Barry's schtick. Everywhere is always horrible. New York is overrun with muggers who'll kill you. Miami is overrun with drug dealers who'll kill you if you don't die from huge loads of cocaine dumped from their planes. North Dakota is overrun with wolves who will kill you. Etc, etc, etc. I am not making this up. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 26 08:23:25 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 26 08:18:01 2007. He *wasn't* chitting! I grew up in da Bronix ... and I've lived everywhere from Webster to Sedgewick to St Anne's to JOHNSON. Nope, as someone who';s had to ensure that dump MORE than once, the boy is being *KIND* to what he got ... he's from FLORIDA, a biological NIGHTMARE. Never ONCE has he mentioned "Junebugs" or "palmettos" for the safety of his children in front of Dade County Sheriffs. Dave's an old pal and "jammer" ... no ... I taslked to him about it ... he *MEANT* every word he said every bit as *I* can *CONFIRM* it! :( |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Sep 26 08:28:03 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Nilet on Wed Sep 26 08:18:01 2007. Now that you mention it, the hotel would be perfect for a fan of Dave Barry. What else makes an incessant complainer happy? Something to complain about, of course.your pal, Fred |
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Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 26 08:29:36 2007, in response to Re: Hotel Pennsylvania Demolition Begins, posted by Rail Blue on Wed Sep 26 06:00:35 2007. I agree with Pig to an extent, but I also agree with your post. There are a lot more buildings built prior to 1950 that have merit than after. Although I have to say some of the more recent stuff is a little bit better than the stuff from 1950 to 1980. |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Sep 26 08:41:21 2007, in response to Re: Penn Passageway Photos, posted by monorail on Wed Sep 26 01:28:23 2007. perhaps that's a reason why they closed.....The real estate was more valuable than the projected profit from sales. |
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