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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 3 15:58:43 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Mon Jul 2 21:31:59 2007. Technically, yes. Friday night the last train from Second Ave. leaves Roosevelt after midnight, and that train as well as the previous one arrive at CTL after midnight! But these have Friday PM crews doing their last trip. |
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Posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 16:18:15 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 13:06:25 2007. First of all, I don't throw temper tantrums and resort to cheap insults like you. Lets get past that phase and talk like men.I'm not against the V train. In fact, I advocated extending it to Church Avenue and making it the Culver local. All I'm saying is that no one can justify sending the F down that 63rd tube when they know damn well that is the most useless stretch of tracks. You cannnot blatantly screw a whole group of riders and then act like everything is ok. I don't see the problem in sending the V down 63rd and the F back to its original route (late night service to 63rd would be provided by a shuttle). I also don't buy into this crap of forcing people to ride a route that they know is slower. If you pay your fare you are entitled to ride whatever line you want. |
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Posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Jul 3 16:40:52 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 16:18:15 2007. Fine. You're entitled to your fare and your choice but you ride the MTA system...not yours.You don't have a choice but to ride what the MTA provides. If it gets rid of the F and says ride the V only because thats all we're providing, you're going to ride the V and like it or get on a bus or another route. All I'm going to say is very simple, if you choose the F knowing its packed, then you choose it. But be happy thats its a sardine like train and don't be upset because the MTA decided what's best for commuters like you from Queens to Manhattan. How do you know that the route is slower? And please don't use the whole express vs. local thing because I've lived in Jackson Heights and I know the line. I live in the Bronx now and riding the Lex, I can tell you that, during rush hours, everything is fair game. |
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Posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 17:05:06 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 16:18:15 2007. First of all, I don't throw temper tantrumsYou do every time you complain about the V train. and resort to cheap insults like you. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a foamer is resorting to cheap insults. Calling you childish and selfish aren't cheap insults. That is calling it exactly as it is. Lets get past that phase and talk like men. Talk like a man before you tell someone else to. All I'm saying is that no one can justify sending the F down that 63rd tube when they know damn well that is the most useless stretch of tracks. Everyone does not know that. No matter how many times you say it, does not make it true. Sending the F down 63rd actually helps most F line passengers. It only directly hurts F line passengers that need 2 specific stops Manhattan stops(and 2 specific Queens stops). It directly helps F line passengers that need 6th Ave and those who need 63rd/Lex(which is at least as busy as 53rd/5th). I don't see the problem in sending the V down 63rd and the F back to its original route (late night service to 63rd would be provided by a shuttle). That's because you can't see past your own selfishness. You are willing to screw the majority of Queens Blvd passengers so that you don't have to transfer. I also don't buy into this crap of forcing people to ride a route that they know is slower. Yet you want to slow down both E and F service. I also don't buy into this crap of forcing people to ride a route that they know is slower. Yet you want to force passengers to use a service that hurts more people than it benefits. If you pay your fare you are entitled to ride whatever line you want. Yet you want to deny that choice to others. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 3 17:19:14 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by PATHman on Mon Jul 2 20:49:49 2007. It may be necessary to prolong one's commute by those 5 to 10 minutes if they want to get a seat. If you don't want to ride an additional 5-10 minutes, then ride the crushed express. Life is too short to be rushing to work. Why not get to bed 5-10 minutes earlier and get up 5-10 minutes earlier? Why not leave the house 5-10 minutes earlier if you want to arrive at work in a good frame of mind and not crushed? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 17:39:37 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Kid Twist on Tue Jul 3 15:58:23 2007. If they finish it, and it's not as convenient as the transfer at Chambers St. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 17:44:36 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 3 17:19:14 2007. Exactly! E/F riders who have to whine about their service when a less crowded alternative is right there deserve no sympathy. |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 18:07:20 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Pelham R62A on Tue Jul 3 16:40:52 2007. you ride the (6) or <6>? |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 18:11:25 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 17:44:36 2007. Some (E) (F) riders don't have a choice, since either they get on before the (V) and (R) are available, or they are going to other places which aren't served by other lines (8th Avenue, parts of Brooklyn, etc) |
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Posted by Michael549 on Tue Jul 3 18:12:34 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 3 15:34:36 2007. Let's check the math. The signal system allows for a train to pass by every 2 minutes, maybe with tweaking 90 seconds between trains. Let's use the 2-minute rule to make the math easier, a train every 2 minutes regardless of whether one is using the express track or the local track.This works out to 30 trains in the peak direction (30 x 2 = 60) per hour. Since there are two services on the express tracks that means 15 trains per hour for the E route, and 15 trains for the F route. For reasons I won't go into it is believed that the Archer complex can handle only 12 trains per hour. With about 3 E route trains coming out of 179th Street. Or one could have 18 F trains coming out of 179th Street - see one can play with numbers. See the funny thing about these numbers is that they were established on day one of the subway system, and they have not changed. Regardless of the location of terminals, the types of trains and other mundane transit stuff - the basic number of trains per hour exists as a basic "law". It has been well established that the Queens Blvd E and F trains are over crowded for the journey to and from Manhattan. To make it plain there are no more "extra trains" that one can add to the express tracks. It has been this way for decades - so saying that the express trains are over-crowded is nothing new, not a surprise. The Queens Blvd system was designed, built, and opened in 1933 so that the G route would serve as the local route - meaning those riders would have to transfer to reach Manhattan - adding to the crowds on the E and F routes. So even if the G-train route had 15 or 30 trains per hour, and were filled to the brim with riders - it did not matter since those riders would/must transfer to trains to Mahattan since the G did not go to Manhattan. In that goal the G-train was useless. Of course G-train riders in Brooklyn did like the frequency of service. So in the mid-1950's, the connection from Queens Plaza to the BMT-Astoria route was built, to allow Queens Blvd. local stations to have a direct route to Manhattan. The names of the routes were EE, N and R - but the purpose was to alleviate congestion on the express routes by using the 60th Street tunnel. However this was not enough, stations along 53rd Street were dangerously crowded, and there were deaths from riders falling onto the tracks when the crowds were heavy. Hence the new plan in 1968, the Second Avenue subway and its new Queens routes were planned, and budgeted for. The whole project was cut into 4 sections, the 63rd Street Tunnel segment, the Archer Avenue segment, and the Queens Super-Express segment, and the Southeast Queens Extension segment. In order to get the project started the funding was secured for the first two segements - 63rd Street Tunnel and Archer Avenue. The Archer Avenue segement fulfilled plans to re-shape the J train service and revamp Queens transit. The city's fiscal crisis, NIMBY concerns and activities of politicians, etc - resulted in the "tunnel to nowhere" and the Archer Avenue segment being the only built and useable parts of the whole plan. As I had said before the current F-service across the 63rd Street tunnel was a COMPROMISE given the situation as it presented itself. The F-train across 63rd Street allows that tunnel to be used for an express service which was why it was built. With the F-train using the 63rd Street tunnel, there is "room" for another service to use 53rd Street, hence the V train. The V train being a local route along Queens Blvd. gives such riders another direct route to Manhattan - where they want to go - without needing to transfer to another crowded train. The V train can "fit" with both the E and F train services without disrupting either. Of course some G-train riders did not like the shortened G-route, but there are simply way more riders wanting to go to Manhattan then wanting to travel between Queens and Brooklyn. The V-train solves a need - all local service to Manhattan - about 30 trains per hour as a maximum, while the express routes have their 30 trains per hour as a maximum to Manhattan - the place where the majority of riders want to go. There are no trains to be added to the express tracks - but that was known decades ago. Mike |
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Posted by E Line Fan on Tue Jul 3 18:19:18 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 3 15:58:43 2007. Ah, a minute timing is how the (V) runs six days. So the last (V)s aren't 11pm on the dot. |
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Posted by E Line Fan on Tue Jul 3 18:34:14 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 15:28:47 2007. One wee problem - 74th Street is a local stop. They'd have to take the (7) to 61st Street-Woodside for the <7>. Since the (V) isn't popular, you could imagine (R) trains or riders may reverse to 71st Avenue, especially from the local stations between Roosevelt and 71st for that (F). |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 18:48:41 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by E Line Fan on Tue Jul 3 18:34:14 2007. Some riders use the (7) from Main Street for the transfer to the Queens Boulevard line, give them less of a reason to transfer, and they might just use the <7> and transfer in Manhattan instead. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:02:55 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 11:48:32 2007. And the answer to that would be to force the E to skip 74th [maybe QP, but by then the E/V makes the same stops] so the V is only way to get to 53rd/Lex. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 19:04:21 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 16:18:15 2007. It's time for an intervention. A few of us should ride the V with you one afternoon and explain to you all the things that you just can't seem to grasp. Are you up for it? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:05:09 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:02:55 2007. oops, nm, you already stated that, but I say just the E skip 74th rather than both E and F. |
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Posted by Russ on Tue Jul 3 19:05:34 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 10:57:25 2007. Or do the opposite. Leave it as is, and convert Woodhaven Blvd. to an express stop. That would make the E and F slightly less attractive as an express. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:12:20 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 3 12:56:50 2007. Exactly, the 7 has express tracks. I don't see why residents under the jamacia el would be so pissed about having express service - obviously the compromise should be to reconfigure Woodhaven Blvd into an express station. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:13:05 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 15:17:22 2007. The V is less crowded than the R. |
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Posted by E Line Fan on Tue Jul 3 19:16:52 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Michael549 on Tue Jul 3 18:12:34 2007. Mike, wasn't the (F) the logical choice also to give 63d Street 24/7 service? The (V) could've done it but the (F) would've had to do it nights and weekends. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:18:16 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 17:05:06 2007. Is it apples to oranges if I compared the E/F to the 4/5?When I used the Lex lines a few years ago I got fed up w/the 4/5 and how crowded they were. I then took the 6 despite it being all local and took it from 86th to 14th and for the most part it was sort of the same maybe 5min + but at least i eventually got a seat or had a place to stand w/out being pushed up against the windows. If the local is emptier and still gets me to my destination w.in a difference of 5-10 min I'm taking the more comfortable local and just leaving the house 15min early. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:21:11 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 15:15:20 2007. But you send the V to ENY then they get a one seat ride to Midtown. If there is a need for Culver express then have that express the |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:21:34 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 15:15:20 2007. But you send the V to ENY then they get a one seat ride to Midtown. If there is a need for Culver express then have that express the diamond F. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:24:30 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 11:00:48 2007. A solution: wake up and leave the house earlier. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 3 19:24:36 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:18:16 2007. Try it the other way, going uptown (from downtown to midtown). Many times the 6 is faster than the 4/5 during rush. |
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Posted by shadyelstation on Tue Jul 3 19:25:30 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:12:20 2007. True.If even THAT presents a problem, install switches west of Woodhaven Blvd. (I'm assuming the express would start at Woodhaven Blvd...do you mean to start it from Sutphin?) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:25:45 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 18:11:25 2007. This mainly affects riders getting on at stations the E/F and the R/V serves. |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 19:28:43 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:25:45 2007. Yes, some of those riders may also need to get to 8th Avenue, (E) is their best and closest option since the (R) and (V) go nowhere 8th Avenue(except the (R) between 42-49 Sts) |
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Posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 19:28:54 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 19:04:21 2007. A few of us should ride the V with you one afternoon and explain to you all the things that you just can't seem to grasp.He's too stubborn and self-centered to accept the truth. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 19:35:09 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 19:28:54 2007. I'm not sure that's it... |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:39:30 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 19:28:43 2007. Ok say if the E skips 74th, riders can still stay on the 7 and go to 42nd TS and get the E there. Or they can take the V and go to W4th and transfer for the E there. |
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Posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 19:40:23 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 19:35:09 2007. I'm not sure that's it...So what's your theory? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:41:03 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Wado MP73 on Tue Jul 3 19:24:36 2007. Especially b/w 42nd and 14th - the express usually slows down southbound at 23rd and 59th to 42nd where the express also slows down due to the curve and perhaps a train ahead being held for the local connection. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:44:05 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by shadyelstation on Tue Jul 3 19:25:30 2007. Sutphin, Woodhaven, Cresent St would be the express stops. [or if they were to build a single track from Broadway Junction via the Alabama 'launchpad' to Cypress: then after Woodhaven the next stop would be Broadway Junction.] |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 19:49:26 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:12:20 2007. They'd bitch about the additional trains rumbling by. I wouldn't object, I don't suffer from the self-destructive sort of NIMBYism ... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 19:51:13 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:13:05 2007. That's because it shares a Manhattan trunk with the F. The R is the only alternative for Broadway line destinations. |
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Posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 19:53:49 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 19:04:21 2007. I've taken the V before (including one time when I was half sick and desperately needed to sit down). I will admit that it is a fairly fast local. Still, three express trains passed the V. It is not a bad idea to take the local during the PM rush hour when you're not in a hurry (In fact, V train ridership is significantly higher during the PM rush). However, during the AM rush hour those extra minutes can mean the difference between getting a coffee and bagel or not having breakfast. They can also be the difference between catching a connection and missing it (and trust me, if your trip has multiple transfers one missed connection can screw you). However, no matter what I say I'll hear the same "The V train is the greatest line" rhetoric. So tell you what, I'll ride the V train end to end after you stop taking Metro-North and instead take the 1 train straight to Midtown (no transfer at 96st). You'll then realize why people prefer the express over the local. |
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Posted by shadyelstation on Tue Jul 3 19:53:50 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:44:05 2007. Hmm...I was thinking something like that (I even 'illustrated' that single track you mention here).My (revised) idea for the service is slightly different from yours; I'd have the express make all stops to Woodhaven, then Crescent, Junction, Myrtle, Marcy, then all stops to Broad. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:54:20 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jul 3 19:49:26 2007. Tell them to f off and build the damn tracks. If they don't like it then they should move. The local business should be in support of the additional service = perhaps more customers coming to their stores. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:54:39 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 3 10:58:52 2007. agreed. |
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Posted by TheGreatOne2k7 on Tue Jul 3 19:54:57 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:39:30 2007. TS is still a block long transfer though. Taking the (V) to W 4th can cost time though. Most of the blame should be placed on the NIMBYs and politicians in Queens for this problem, since they had their chance for Super Express tracks to add capacity. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Jul 3 19:58:07 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 19:53:49 2007. Yes, and now we are back to square one. I am not saying you personally, but as a whole ridership complains about overcrowded E and F express service. All we are saying to the complainers is to get out of bed 10 minutes earlier for a less stressful ride on the V because it has plenty of room for them. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 20:04:20 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 19:40:23 2007. better left unsaid |
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Posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 20:05:08 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by PATHman on Tue Jul 3 19:53:49 2007. However, no matter what I say I'll hear the same "The V train is the greatest line" rhetoric.Not a single person on this boardf has ever said that. You, however, keep shouting the exact opposite every time the V(or E,F,R,G or Queens Blvd) is mentioned. You'll then realize why people prefer the express over the local. Most people who prefer the express over the local do so because they think they save much more time than they actually do(in some cases, they cost people time). |
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Posted by mambomta on Tue Jul 3 20:05:37 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 3 20:04:20 2007. better left unsaidThat bad, huh? |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Tue Jul 3 20:05:43 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Kid Twist on Tue Jul 3 15:58:23 2007. Yes, but once they finish rebuilding Bleecker Street, a transfer to the uptown IRT will also be available at Broadway-Lafayette.You will be waiting 5 years for that to happen. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 20:05:48 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by shadyelstation on Tue Jul 3 19:53:50 2007. Yes that single track would make express service more direct and quicker by not having to slow down at that 90 degree curve.At Junction then the express would continue on the express all the way to Marcy. That would futher encourage riders to take the Jamacia el over Queens Blvd from Parsons Archer. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 3 20:24:59 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 19:41:03 2007. "Especially b/w 42nd and 14th - the express usually slows down southbound at 23rd and 59th to 42nd where the express also slows down due to the curve and perhaps a train ahead being held for the local connection."Only reason that Express is slowing down now is two reasons.. ATS is not giving the train the FULL Line-up into 14th Street in BOTH Directions.. Or there is a train in front of it in the station.. I clearly remember before they started running that IF there was no train in 14th Street you flew into that staion N/B, South Bound its 20Mph coming into the station those timers whould clear at 30 Mph even before you got out of 23rd Street.. A Express being held for a Local Connection on Lexington?? When did THIS start to happen? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 20:30:35 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 3 20:24:59 2007. I dunno, I was on the express and thought maybe that's why it is going so slow into the station. also the train even stopped for a few seconds b4 moving towards 42nd. I'm probably wrong on that and can't confirm it since it's been 4 years since i last rode a downtown Lex express train. But yes locals are always held for the 4/5 memory slip there. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jul 3 20:32:40 2007, in response to Re: The (V) Still Looking For Love And Respect, posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 3 20:30:35 2007. I can see a local held for a Express Connection that happened to me on the 6 train quite a few times..I can count on one hand how many times while working on the 5 train that i was held for a 6 Train.. |
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