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Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007

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sorry but i saw this on the way back from the orange empie railway
museum 3 stations and this new UGLY WHITE PAINT SCAM
borrowed this from your website sorry but this us UN BELIEVE ABLE
is it possible for the LACMTA to Fugg- up even more
they did it again UGLY AS HELL all white and a dopey METRO sign
on the top !! UGH i got to out and photograph this new GRAFFITTI !!
hell they should have just left the old pain scam alone !
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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 00:50:13 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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I'm hoping that they're not done yet. LACMTA does such a good job with the bus schemes that I'd be surprised to see them leave them painted plain white. At least I hope that they don't.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:56:14 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 00:50:13 2007.

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on the way home from the orange empire railway museum i saw at least
2 of this new paint scams
the the black letters [ METRO RAIL ] on top of a all white paint
body
ugly as hell damnn !!!

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:06:58 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:56:14 2007.

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Two trips to OERM in 2 weeks...have you gotten to operate any of the equipment?

You saw two on the gold line? I guess we'll a lot more of them then. The "Metro" and "Metro Rail" is just like what's on the buses, except that the buses have "Metro Local", etc instead of "rail." That will definitely stay as that's part of the branding. I'm just hoping that they add some color to it.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 01:13:51 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:06:58 2007.

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i was there for ''pacific electric days''
last week
today i was there to meet subchatter photographer R Pansepcc
i will not be going back until july 28 night operations
members night
at $3.oo plus a gallon and aprox 200 + miles away it is very expensive but i am thinking about some training classes one day
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i think the red line will be stripped to silver only
the green and blue and gold lines will get get a all white body
with that ugly [ "Metro Rail" ] at the top
....................i dod not think we will see any colors at all
this is not the san diego trolley or sacremento light rail !!
nope !!
not in los angeles !!

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 01:14:26 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:06:58 2007.

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..........correction..........
i was there for ''pacific electric days''
last week
today i was there to meet subchatter photographer R Pansepcc
i will not be going back until july 28 night operations
members night
at $3.oo plus a gallon and aprox 200 + miles away it is very expensive but i am thinking about some training classes one day
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i think the red line will be stripped to silver only
the green and blue and gold lines will get get a all white body
with that ugly [ "Metro Rail" ] at the top
....................i do not think we will see any colors at all
this is not the san diego trolley or sacremento light rail !!
nope !!
not in los angeles !!

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:32:13 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 01:14:26 2007.

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The $3.00 is nothing! It costs me about $35 in gas to drive out there. That doesn't include any other vehicle operational costs.

Honestly I thought that it was okay. Not great. The people were nice. They have some good reading materials and videos for sale. My only real complaint is that it's so far away.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 24 01:39:45 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:32:13 2007.

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No, he meant it is $3 per gallon. He drove 200 miles. Do the math.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:46:39 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 24 01:39:45 2007.

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lol. I didn't read very closely. Thanks. (But I need his vehicle mpg to do the math).

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 02:07:09 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 01:46:39 2007.

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its from pasadena , los angeles county take the 210 east unti the
15 south then the 60 east until it merges with the 215 south
esit in perris california
quite a distance and highway construction jamups

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 02:12:54 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 24 01:39:45 2007.

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easy
maybe its 100 or so miles but you go thru a good tank of gas doing it

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by P-rad M on Sun Jun 24 09:44:06 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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Damn, the new scheme does suck. I hope not all the cars will be put in that scheme. The new scheme looks a little similar to HBLR's and NLR's scheme, but HBLR and NLR look way better.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 11:31:13 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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Looks like they're taking a cue from SEPTA! Let's hope they're just blanking them out so they can put some new colors on them.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jun 24 12:03:41 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 11:31:13 2007.

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My take on all these white schemes is that the major reason is They are CHEAP!!!"

Most of the color in them are Mylar paste ons.

In paint shop terms it's a "No Mask Job". For example, if you have a black window mask on a white body, that's a "One Mask Job". Paint the body white, mask the window area and apply the black window mask.

We will never see the great paint schemes of the 1930's through the 1980's again. :-(



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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 12:12:59 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by P-rad M on Sun Jun 24 09:44:06 2007.

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It does look quite a bit like HBLR. So much so that I wouldn't say one really looks better than the other. What does HBLR have that makes it look "way better."

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 13:08:07 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 12:12:59 2007.

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It does look quite a bit like HBLR. So much so that I wouldn't say one really looks better than the other. What does HBLR have that makes it look "way better."

Those NJT orange, blue, and purple stripes that give just a splash of color.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jun 24 13:09:13 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 13:52:21 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 13:08:07 2007.

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Meh. Just a splash is right. I'd say that our train physically looks better, but their scheme is ever so slightly better because of the small amount of color. Still as they are now, I'm not a fan of either.

I will be very surprised if we don't get much more color added to our LRVs. The MTA is using color to differentiate the services in the system. On buses it's orange for local, red for rapid, and blue for express. The train branding was supposed to be silver. Maybe they're going to glue some silver steel panels to the outside of our LRV's. That'll make them look like the new Breda's. ;)

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 13:59:08 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jun 24 12:03:41 2007.

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the LACMTA is very ''cheap''
i like trhe san diego light railcars much better !!

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 13:59:50 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by orange blossom special on Sun Jun 24 13:09:13 2007.

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yea !!
then it will look like ''graffitti''
rofl

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 14:20:51 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 13:59:08 2007.

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So you would prefer to have San Diego's system over ours? We have two heavy rail lines and a light rail line that operates almost like heavy rail with 5-minute rush hour headways. San Diego has no heavy rail and their light rail lines have mostly 15-minute rush hour headways. They also pay much more than us for less service while you have been critical of any sort of increase for LACMTA. So in essence they pay more for less, while we pay less for more yet you call LACMTA cheap?

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 14:43:13 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 14:20:51 2007.

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the fare is gonna be raised anyway and i bet the service cut back
anyway this is how they usually do it here right ? but to say on topic
i would prefer a one good color like painting the blue line LRVs
a good blue like santa monicas THE BIG BLUE BUS
and a nice green color for the green line
at least a red / purple strip on the red line
and wouldnt a good yellow COLOR look good on the gold line ?
and yes i think san diego is much more ''classier'' than los angeles!
at least the y have one good unified pretty color and not some
cheeeep bland ass [ white ]
which looks very bad when trhey get even slightly dirty !!!
example in photo below

and grey looks even worse car 109 & 148 on the blue line !!!
awful !!
the breda cars are all silver and get no paint at all
anybody seen those new broken down clunkers ??
no reports lately of thier even being in testing !!!
well , i guess they did not make it past testing !!!
ROFL
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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 14:49:28 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 14:20:51 2007.

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one more thing here car 109 front car 148 rear
look at how beautiful this was before they messed up these 2 !!

NOW car # 148


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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 14:56:30 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 14:20:51 2007.

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we got to go out ang get these new paint scams while the change over
is being done
asap this week for me for sure !!
starting with marmion way highland park station areas cauz i usually
miss these areas
and how is that falling concrete below chinatown station doing these
days [ hope they patched it ]
lol

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 15:07:16 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 14:43:13 2007.

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No offense, but with all of the new construction, new cars, overhauls, etc. going on in LA, calling LACMTA cheap because San Diego's cars are prettier sounds like foamer talk.

Why are you so delighted at the possibility that the new Breda cars possibly failed testing? That would be bad news wouldn't it?

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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 16:23:00 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 15:07:16 2007.

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not really
what i am saying about the bredas is 'chit or get off the pot'
either declare them as FAILURES and send them back to [ breda land ]
or re order some new Siemens P200s which are in service now on the
green and blue lines and add on the the fleet with the same stock
the LACMTA needs to quit '''''F'''- ing around with this 4 year
failed breda soap opera that never goes into service & not even on a
''railfan run'' to see if us regular folks like how they ride etc..
put them in service this summer or quit them or re order what you have
now in service that is working every day now !!
BUST A MOVE !! lets go
the entire fleet needs to be ONE light rail car on all 3 lines


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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 16:26:20 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 15:07:16 2007.

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why not put the bredas in ''test service'' now ??
whats the hold up with these clunkers ??
time to bust a move of cancel the breda contract !!
if it failed then re-order the siemens P200s and have them built
exactly like the orhers we have here

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 16:36:06 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 16:26:20 2007.

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Okay, I guess that I see although I'm not sure why you're "ROFL" at the failure. I would prefer to save money and have them work.

There are many reasons why we didn't order Siemens "exactly like the others we have here". Most importantly we wanted cars that would work on all of the lines. We also wanted to get some of the modern amenities that have been introduced to light rail over the last 20 years.

What I don't understand is why we order such expensive LRVs? They all come as single cars capable of operating independently. With the crowding that we have on the blue line and similar situations expected on both expo and the gold line to east la why not order cars that have operators cabs at only one end? Aside from the gold line how often do we operate single car lrv's? Almost never. Wouldn't it be a big money saver to have cars with only one cab? And how about cars with no operators cab? The blue line runs 3 cars most of the day. The 4 additional operators cabs are both a waste of space and money.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 16:52:04 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 16:36:06 2007.

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easy remember the original order on the lacmta blue line
with the Sumitomo Nippon Sharyo Japan P865 model Light rail vehicles
1989-1994 series
on my many vists to the blue line headquarters main line yards which
is the central repair for all light rail operations
on site at the long beach yards
and from heads of operations like robert johnson, retired
freedie marlow jr, hector gutierrez, willard johnson
all [ lacmta rail operations supervisors ]
about twice a 6 months or at least every year i go there for my my
i d badge and or new photographers vests etc...
and i am able to get 1 of the very confusing many times scatter
brains from the depths of a rail transit system that is suffering
from amnesia !!
coming not from those who are in charge of rail transit ops ..
but higher !!
from the inside all the operators there prefer the blue line rail cars
Sumitomo Nippon Sharyo Japan P865 model Light rail vehicles
1989-1994 series
and tolerate the siemens p 2000 - 1999-2000 to today etc...
please note this .............................
and hate the new bredas the ones they have test operated !!!
easy i do not have all the inside drag but i have a ear listening to
the derailed inner tracks of the lacmta rial systems
its a big mess easy

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 17:10:58 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 16:52:04 2007.

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I believe you. I know that you talk to those guys. But whether or not the T/O's enjoy operating them isn't even part of the equation in deciding whether or not they are successful. According to the MTA they have passed their tests with flying colors. But then as you correctly point out, if that's true where are they? They were supposed to be in service late 2005 or early 2006. Obviously something must be wrong, but the MTA is quiet on it.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 17:29:02 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 17:10:58 2007.

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i would say this .....and i support transit rider testing
why not on a lazy sunday let the public ride one [a-b] unit and
with a lacmta rep watch how trhe public takes to the new stock ?
on the obviously something must be wrong, but the MTA is quiet on it,
why now the delays going into the middle of is it now 2007 ?
and i would not want dissatisfied TOs either !! the weight is all on
them as for all of our safey when we ride on rolling stock they op!!
again i get in son some meetings but i try not to hang around too
much or use up too much time so i have to grab as much info as i can
with my short meetings that i can go to
a lot of them like that i am a good doc. photographer and encourage me
to continue doing this within all legal bounds and rules
willard jophnson said to me that i am recording transit history in
the los angeles metro areas and that this is not being done by the
lacmta officially and a lot of things change including new stations
new paint s logos changes etc and if nobody photogrpahs any of this
it is gone from history forever etc..
i try my best to be and keep a friendly atmosphere
beleive me i wish i could spend all day and learn everything
but i dont want to wear out my welcome if you catch my drift
i am just a good hobbyist volunteer that is waved at and smiled at
and i hope i can keep it that way forever easy ...
do not rely on the press misinformation releases propergandas !!
lol

July 28, 2005
CONTACT--
Dave Sotero/Marc Littman
Metro MEDIA RELATIONS
(213) 922-3007/(213) 922-2700
www.metro.net/press/pressroom
e-mail-- mediarelations@metro.net
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

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Metro Inspects New Italian-made 2550 Light Rail Vehicle

New technologically advanced light rail vehicles will first be placed into service on Metro Gold Line in late 2005 or early 2006


Metro Board members and executives from Italian rail car manufacturer Ansaldobreda, Inc. today inspected a new, technologically advanced light rail vehicle that will help the agency accommodate future growth of the Metro Rail system.

The 2550 Light Rail Vehicle is the first of 50 that Metro has ordered from the manufacturer. At a cost of $2.9 million each, the 76-passenger, 54-ton, 90-foot long vehicles contain the latest in rail car technology, from advanced propulsion system and diagnostic equipment to greater accessibility for Metro's transit patrons.

The rail cars will first operate on the Metro Gold Line in late 2005 or early 2006. They will also be deployed on the Metro Gold Line's future extension into East Los Angeles, which is due to open in December 2009.

The 2550 contract includes two 50-car options for the procurement of additional rail cars to meet the growing needs of the rail system.

The new vehicle provides many improvements that will directly benefit transit customers. Automated announcements on an interior and exterior public address system will apprise passengers of approaching stops. Seats are cantilevered, which opens up floor space for faster boarding and alighting. There are four wheelchair locations conveniently located at each entrance of the train. Additionally, multiple destination signs are strategically placed to make it easy for all patrons to view their stop information.

"The 2550 is as technologically advanced as any light rail car operating in the United States," said Roger Snoble, Metro's chief executive officer. "Ansaldobreda has answered our call for a first class vehicle that meets the needs of all three Metro Rail light rail lines, to be delivered on time and within budget."

Some of the rail vehicle's other new features include:

Stainless steel structure and composite body components that increase the vehicle's lifespan while reducing maintenance costs.

Camera security system that films interior and exterior views.

Global Positioning System that provides automatic time-stamping of all major sub-systems. Provides improved automatic station announcements.

Event Recorder (Black Box) that captures and records events and conditions of the vehicle in the case of incidents.

On-board hardware and software that improves fleet management capabilities.

LON-Works that allows train operators improved control and recognition of the operating vehicle. Train operators will also have improved communication throughout the train.

The most current and service-proven IGBT AC-drive propulsion system with improved regenerative braking properties, which feeds electrical power back into the overhead cantenary system.

Ansaldobreda, Inc. is one of several leading manufacturers of both heavy and light rail vehicles. The company has designed and manufactured light rail vehicles for major transit operations in U.S. cities including San Francisco, Atlanta and Boston, as well as for operations in several European cities. Ansaldobreda also designed and manaufactured the 104 heavy rail vehicles currently in use on the Metro Red Line subway.

Metro operates 73.1 miles of light and heavy rail and serves nearly a quarter million boarding passengers on an average weekday.

Metro-110


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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 17:43:28 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 17:29:02 2007.

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Nice post. I agree with you.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 17:51:35 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 17:43:28 2007.

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sure!
i need to go out this week and shoot off some new paint scam shotz
i wish the lacmta was ran with the pride of the san diego trolley
which i met some of the operators and head ops down there last time
i was there for the running of the Siemens SD70 3003 - 6/25/2005
special for the new to be opened up ''green line'''
with their new railcars etc.. ERHA special fan trip
which was tons of fun that day nice an cool and all day wowza !!




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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 18:06:19 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 17:51:35 2007.

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Sounds like fun. I have to work long hours this week or I'd go with you. I might take a day off sometime soon. I'll email you to see if you're available as soon as I know for sure.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 18:10:45 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 18:06:19 2007.

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sure when you get some time
this time you pick where we go
.....
lets roll
!!!
lol

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Jun 24 19:20:14 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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Ugh. I'll agree with you there. Give them at least a bit of color. At least they could have kept the gold striping.

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Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 21:21:20 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 13:59:08 2007.

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i like trhe san diego light railcars much better !!

Yeah, they look like they have minimal masking, but by simply painting them red instead of white they look a whole lot better.



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Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 21:23:27 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 14:20:51 2007.

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So you would prefer to have San Diego's system over ours? We have two heavy rail lines and a light rail line that operates almost like heavy rail with 5-minute rush hour headways. San Diego has no heavy rail and their light rail lines have mostly 15-minute rush hour headways.

In all fairness to San Diego, it's a much smaller metro area than Los Angeles, so it doesn't need as many rail lines as LA. What's more, they had a lot of their rail system up and running a good while before Los Angeles had any modern rail transit.

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Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 21:36:53 2007, in response to Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 21:21:20 2007.

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when i first saw the san diego trolley it from a distance looked like
the irt redbirds when they were first painted ....
but they did have thier own 'unique' look to them
reminded me of a redbird lrv conversion s ...........kind of
except the red paint jobs were shiny and new gloss looking ....sharp
i was arriving at my hotel at this nice but bite size pocket city
with sunset hitting them as they looped around
wow ! i am in san diego !!!
yea!



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Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 21:39:55 2007, in response to Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 21:23:27 2007.

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well
i like the l00k of san diego
.......!

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by P-rad M on Sun Jun 24 22:48:26 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 12:12:59 2007.

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Dunno, I'm too used to HBLR!

Plus, there are three cars that are fully ad wrapped....

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 22:54:28 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by P-rad M on Sun Jun 24 22:48:26 2007.

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I really have to check out HBLR next time I'm out there. PATH too!

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by P-rad M on Sun Jun 24 22:56:25 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 22:54:28 2007.

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Just say word when your around.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 24 23:10:16 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by P-rad M on Sun Jun 24 22:56:25 2007.

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For sure. Probably mid-August based on my current schedule.

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Jun 24 23:16:05 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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No disagreement from me Salaam. And yeah, that Metro up top does look pretty dopey.

And worse, whoever came up with this idea gets paid fot it.

Jimmymc25

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 00:35:03 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by R36 #9346 on Sun Jun 24 19:20:14 2007.

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agreed
the good old gold stripe
keep it

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Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 00:35:34 2007, in response to Re: Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by jimmymc25 on Sun Jun 24 23:16:05 2007.

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ROFL

Thankz

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Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon Jun 25 02:09:56 2007, in response to Re: Easy I can't believe the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by Mark Michalovic on Sun Jun 24 21:23:27 2007.

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LACMTA has i think aprox 73 miles of electric rail transit
i got to look up how many miles san diego has & especially after
the green line completed loop
then you have to add the green line extension etc...
kinda long ! is it really shorter than los angeles ?



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Easy ! i saw Car 105 today NEW PAINT SCAM ...and

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jun 27 01:46:22 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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Easy ! i saw Car 105 today NEW PAINT SCAM ...and
she was at transit mall before i could dismount and fire off some
shots before the 3 pack train left the layover spot there in downtown
long beach and there she was in the middle !! Car 105 !!
i cant beleive this same lrv railcar i photographed in 1990 !!!
brand new then with the ORIGINAL paint scam and much more pretty!!
i will post these photos tomorrow when i get some more time
anyway i was out all day today and fired off a few shots mostly at
''wardlow'' station that i always seemed to miss except for today !!
the bredas have all ben moved to the gold line yards for some reason


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Easy ! i saw Car 105 today NEW PAINT SCAM ...and

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Wed Jun 27 01:47:04 2007, in response to Easy i cant beleive the new LACMTA paint scam !!, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Jun 24 00:32:47 2007.

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Easy ! i saw Car 105 today NEW PAINT SCAM ...and
she was at transit mall before i could dismount and fire off some
shots before the 3 pack train left the layover spot there in downtown
long beach and there she was in the middle !! Car 105 !!
correction .........i caught her in 4 shots
i cant beleive this same lrv railcar i photographed in 1990 !!!
brand new then with the ORIGINAL paint scam and much more pretty!!
i will post these photos tomorrow when i get some more time
anyway i was out all day today and fired off a few shots mostly at
''wardlow'' station that i always seemed to miss except for today !!
the bredas have all ben moved to the gold line yards for some reason


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