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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Grand concourse on Mon May 21 13:54:00 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Terrapin Station on Sun May 20 16:04:20 2007.

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Ok warning, then action if the person persists.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:00:42 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by error46146 on Sun May 20 15:15:20 2007.

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Next question, are these real videos, or are the "doctored". How did this person just happen to be at the right place at the right time each time to get these videos?
I dunno, something fishy about the whole thing.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:04:16 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun May 20 22:20:03 2007.

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You can easily tell who was around in the 70's and 80's and who wasn't by some of these posts....

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:05:43 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun May 20 20:05:18 2007.

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R32's in the 80's never had "pieces", just crappy random tags all over the sides...the "piece" vandals didn't usually use the stainless steel or ribbed cars for their "work".

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Mon May 21 17:16:41 2007, in response to R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun May 20 14:59:23 2007.

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I don't know if this was the same train, but a 4 train at Nevins was spotted with a mural today. I'm not sure of the number, it possibly was 1150 heading up the back of the train, but again, not sure of the number. Shocked the heck out of my eyes for sure, especially the fact that it was business as usual on that 4 train.

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Re: MULTIPLE R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon May 21 19:26:01 2007, in response to Re: MULTIPLE R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun May 20 23:03:37 2007.

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I'd guess they were all spliced together from different times.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by orange blossom special on Mon May 21 19:27:18 2007, in response to R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun May 20 14:59:23 2007.

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Let's see, war on terror.....stopping photographers, and putting your name on a train doesn't make it yours.
Not sure what's not adding up, hm....

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Mon May 21 19:34:54 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by SOUTH FERRY on Mon May 21 00:14:09 2007.

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something has to be done to those UGLY suckas !!
'' install a RFW''''
rofl

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by R42 4787 on Mon May 21 21:25:11 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:05:43 2007.

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I guess that's why the most famous graffiti culture artists were based mainly in the Bronx along the IRT Main Line and hit the the R12/14/15/17/21/22/26/28/29/33/36 MLs.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by 5119 on Tue May 22 12:03:18 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by caine515 on Sun May 20 15:35:31 2007.

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I'm not surprised that this would occur on one of the Bronx Lines.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by 5119 on Tue May 22 12:06:23 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by AMoreira81 on Sun May 20 15:46:40 2007.

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Again, when a significant group of indivduals with no respect for themselves nor the property/rights of others run amuk, then you will experience crap like this.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by 5119 on Tue May 22 12:08:37 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by R30A on Sun May 20 21:46:36 2007.

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It never did nor will ever impress me. It's vandalism, period.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by 5119 on Tue May 22 12:10:08 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by MATHA531 on Mon May 21 06:58:40 2007.

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Well said, MATHA531, well said!

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue May 22 12:34:45 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Christopher Rivera on Sun May 20 15:42:12 2007.

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That train was on 3 Block at Utica in the back where any peion artist can get to it since the Best Cleaning barn is East 180 Street it should have been taken out of service and sent to the Yard ASAP.

It wasnt you think we like operating a tagged train like that?

Train Operators who SEE a train tagged like that in a yard(in this case it wasnt in a Yard).You cant see all around the train at 3 block at Utica i know i have done Put-Ins from there myself.

You report it and IF the Dispt says STAY IN SERVICE you stay in service period.

ABD's like this(serious vandalism) are the Line Supt's call if they say keep it moving so be it end of story we do as we are told down here, saftey first of coruse.

"Lazy Train Operators" have Nothing to do with taking a tagged train Uptown, more like Supt's not wanting ABD's for Line Preformance, beacuse even Dispt's have to get a OK for a Train to be Double-O-Sixed when it comes to that.

So next time you see a train like remember my post beacuse this wasnt the frist and im sure it wont be the last time a train like that will be in Service.

Write a Letter send a email to the Line Supt and take your beef with them posting it here on this site wont do a darn thing..

For the record i have seen trains tagged in Yards and bagned it in myself, beacuse its my job.

Im sure if that train was in a yard the T/O banged it in as well..

Did that matter??






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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 22 12:52:04 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by 5119 on Tue May 22 12:03:18 2007.

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You don't know that this happened in the Bronx. The fact that the trains shown serve the Bronx may or may not be relevant. Just like how they also serve Manhattan and Brooklyn (except the 6). Railman just posted that one set got tagged while at Utica. That's not the Bronx.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Railman718 on Tue May 22 13:05:07 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 22 12:52:04 2007.

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Thats where Most of them got Tagged Terrapin, its a problem but they have to put them there nowhere else to put them.

Once somehow they got in Liviona Yard and did it and Boy! was there drama over that!

LOTS of drama, a T/O almost got Double-O-Sixed, in the end(which i notice people really dont understand who post here until its them looking down a barrel of a loaded gun) he did what we do down here 99.9% of the time,as he was told..

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:09:14 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by The Queen on Sun May 20 20:30:25 2007.

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No, I like uniformity and cleanliness. Anyone who rode the system back then fantasized about that.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:11:01 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:05:43 2007.

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Most of the stainless steels never sported that kind of grafitti. The vandals LOVED those IRT SMEE's.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:14:25 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by AMoreira81 on Mon May 21 11:08:33 2007.

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Grafitti is big in Europe (another sign that their culture's days are numbered) and getting a NYC train is considered the ultimate acheivement.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:18:07 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:04:16 2007.

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HAHA, yup.

I remember the joy of seeing the first R30 redbirds on the J in the fall of 1985...and seeing them remain clean for weeks!

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by J trainloco on Tue May 22 21:27:41 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:04:16 2007.

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I was around in the 80s, but I can't remember anything before '88.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:16:26 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:05:43 2007.

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They didn't like the R-6/7/9s either. And if there was a tag on one of them, it was usually carelessly done. There were, of course, exceptions to this rule. A crew out of Queens - "Uncle John", "Quang", "Flint" and "Pentagram" were particularly cruel to the R stock that was laid up on the Hillside Express. I remember seeing cars like #1233, #1415, #1304, #937, #1117 etc. wearing pictographs of wizards, skulls, ghouls, highly stylized logos and the like.

Then, in the East - there were these two taggers "Wizz" (sometimes spelled with three "Z"s), and "Super Strut" who liked to do "throw up" tags on the R-7a and R-9. They NEVER touched the blue/grey cars, only the brown ones. I had a list of these somewhere but I can't find it at the moment.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:18:28 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:11:01 2007.

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They were particularly hard on the R16s and R27/30s as well.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:23:28 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:14:25 2007.

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You should see some of the trains in Rome - straight out of NYC circa 1983. Full-side canvases, roof to sill, end to end too. London's had a fair amount of it too although it seems to be under control at the moment.

wayne


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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by monorail on Tue May 22 23:29:30 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:18:28 2007.

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'They were particularly hard on the R16s and R27/30s as well'

they had hard-ons riding the 16's & 27/30's????

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by R42 4787 on Tue May 22 23:29:51 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:23:28 2007.

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There are no more LU Tube stock cars that still have unpainted aluminum bodies-the D78 stock was recently overhauled.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by 5119 on Wed May 23 10:27:23 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Terrapin Station on Tue May 22 12:52:04 2007.

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I don't know how old you are, but I remember seeing cars with this crap on them in the Bronx in the spring of 1972. Didin't see it on Brooklyn lines until the following year. I traveled all over the city back then (1971-1978) Didn't see any of this crap in 1971. It began in the spring of 1972, when New york Street gangs, dormant since the late 50's early 60's, resurfaced.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 12:13:07 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon May 21 14:04:16 2007.

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I am decidedly old school when it comes to subway art.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 12:50:59 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:18:28 2007.

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True, but they were concentrated only in one yard (ENY). Yards like Jamaica and Coney Island sported mostly stainless steel cars. In the early 1980's there were NO stainless steel cars on the IRT and they were your best bets for quality grafitti. I am also unaware of any of the R16's or 27/30's being painted after 1980. Some of the R16's sported exterior grafitti placed on the cars in the mid 70's all the way at the end in 1987.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 23 14:12:19 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 12:13:07 2007.

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Graffiti = eeeewwwwwwwww!!!

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 23 18:05:42 2007, in response to R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sun May 20 14:59:23 2007.

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At 00:16..is that a tag I see?



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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 18:08:24 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 12:50:59 2007.

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Same with the R-6/7/9s - those that were tagged wore their colours all the way to the scrapyard. Once so painted, they were never cleaned.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 23 18:34:14 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Tue May 22 23:16:26 2007.

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Funny you should say, "throw up.":)

You mean 1233 of A-440 fame got tagged? Yikes!

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 18:40:18 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed May 23 18:34:14 2007.

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Yes, #1233 was still flying her colours when she made that mad dash down Hillside Avenue, though her glass had been scraped clean by that time. If I remember correctly, one end of the car was tagged by "Pentagram", with a hatted and bearded wizard and the other end was a big blob mural by "Flint", below the windowline. The most vividly-painted R of all was #1415 - roof to sill by at least three different vandals, and all the glass painted out.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 23 18:48:54 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 18:08:24 2007.

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I'll never forget a tag I once saw on an R16 in 1986: Dyn-O-Mite!

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by error46146 on Wed May 23 21:39:20 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 23 18:05:42 2007.

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Where? I don't see any

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed May 23 21:42:32 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by error46146 on Wed May 23 21:39:20 2007.

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At the last car.

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 22:16:11 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed May 23 21:42:32 2007.

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On the top left of the bulkhead, looks like a quickie.

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 23:10:43 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 23 18:05:42 2007.

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Damn---and I shot this train earlier this month clean. What lowlifes.

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by monorail on Wed May 23 23:13:31 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by AMoreira81 on Wed May 23 23:10:43 2007.

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'What lowlifes.'


I agree! If ONLY they had taken more time to do a decent job....

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Thu May 24 01:06:11 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Wed May 23 18:05:42 2007.

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hat tiny little white bullshit tag on the back? The (L) gets those all the time and much bigger and better ones too!

How about that R42 car on the (L) that has had that huge red graffiti stain for weeks that they can'tseem to get off. Whats up with that, why won't it come off?

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 24 08:18:09 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Wed May 23 18:40:18 2007.

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Did 1277 ever take a hit from vandals? Ralph doesn't count.:)

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu May 24 11:11:21 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 24 08:18:09 2007.

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Don't fully remember about #1277 being tagged - could have been some minor stuff here and there - if there was a mural I would have remembered it for sure but I don't recollect there being one on that particular car.

Now R44 124 - THAT's a different story...
Same with 126, 203, 147 and 188, an "awesome foursome". The Queens gang had fully repainted that entire trainset, with #126 and #203 getting the worst of it.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 24 12:58:53 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu May 24 11:11:21 2007.

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At least 1277 didn't get the pistachio green treatment, right? Eeewwwwwww!!!

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu May 24 20:45:05 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu May 24 12:58:53 2007.

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No, but the color inside of #1277 (aside from the substatial meal spread out all over her floor) was just as ughly - that bilious, marine shade of greyish-green that's so common on the R cars - NOT the bluish-grey tint (like the R-7 and R-7a had). And it had those funny fans too with the pointy noses and wavy blades. This was true of all the R-6-2 cars.

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu May 24 20:48:12 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by TheCanarsieConnection on Thu May 24 01:06:11 2007.

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Oil based paint?

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Ian Lennon on Thu May 24 21:27:07 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 22 19:18:07 2007.

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I too share that memory with you. I wish I had a Polaroid of my face when I saw it.

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Grand concourse on Thu May 24 21:29:32 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by monorail on Wed May 23 23:13:31 2007.

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if they did, they'd be dead from trying to hang onto the train.

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Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube)

Posted by J trainloco on Thu May 24 21:34:38 2007, in response to Re: R143 Tagged In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu May 24 20:48:12 2007.

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That shouldn't be a problem. Most spray paints are oil based.

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Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube)

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri May 25 09:52:20 2007, in response to Re: R142 Bombed By Graffiti In Service (YouTube), posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu May 24 20:45:05 2007.

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Not that those fans did any good on 9/11/73.

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