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4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007

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Last Tuesday while working my L job I saw 1 4 car set of R160's sitting on the deck. I guess testing should start soon.

Robert

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Sun Feb 18 00:38:48 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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I saw a NTT there on the deck. The interior lighting was different than the R143, so I figured that was the R160.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by xtimx on Sun Feb 18 04:05:47 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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i was supposed to do testing 19:00 last wednesday and thursday at eny. at first i was supposed to do it at coney island yard then they called me to say eny instead. meanwhile its a plan 3 and i knew they would throw me to the board, sure enough they did and they rushed me to pick up the balance of L323.

thursday they called me before work and asked me if i just wanted to take one of the available jobs.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 09:05:49 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by xtimx on Sun Feb 18 04:05:47 2007.

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I would take the job, if I was you. I would live just running a new train up and down the line.

Robert

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Railman718 on Sun Feb 18 09:12:40 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 09:05:49 2007.

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Hey Robert good to see you again, today im bright-eyed and ready for the new pick!!!(Says this while still half-sleep and yawning)..

LOL LOL

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by xtimx on Sun Feb 18 13:34:22 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 09:05:49 2007.

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i won the job in the bid but every time they are supposed to do it they cancel it cause the 160's seem to be flaking out. i want to test these bad boys out already!

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 18 16:04:47 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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So,it finally begins...

Ive seen them over here testing before,but not the 4 car set.

336 to go.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 19 15:13:15 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Edwards! on Sun Feb 18 16:04:47 2007.

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Do we know what line the eventual 30-day test(s) will take place upon?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 19 15:27:51 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 19 15:13:15 2007.

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You got me...

Best to ask TRAIN DUDE.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by J trainloco on Mon Feb 19 15:33:24 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Feb 19 15:13:15 2007.

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Why would it need a 30 day acceptance test?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 19 15:43:45 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by J trainloco on Mon Feb 19 15:33:24 2007.

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Don't know why it would..but Chris seems to think so..part of the reason Why I told him to ask TRAIN DUDE.

I mean,the cars would undergo testing on the road for a LONG time before being placed in ANY type of service ANYWHERE...Right?

I'm hoping for the cars to go into J service FIRST..[Hey..I'm bias,Okay?]

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Feb 19 16:17:37 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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So will it do testing on the J? And on the weekends would they be used rather than the R143's for the M shuttles?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Jace on Mon Feb 19 16:22:23 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by J trainloco on Mon Feb 19 15:33:24 2007.

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They don't. The only major acceptance testing left is the cars with Siemens Propulsion.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Feb 19 16:42:54 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Jace on Mon Feb 19 16:22:23 2007.

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Don't they need to do burn testing and/or service simulation?

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PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Feb 19 19:11:24 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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I took today, anmd there's 8 cars.



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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Feb 19 19:15:18 2007, in response to PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Feb 19 19:11:24 2007.

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Finally an R160 ending in a 0. If only 8 more R143's had been ordered then the R160's [5-car] wouldn't have been numbered so oddly.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 19 19:15:36 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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How can someone tell it's a R160, and not a R143 just by looking?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Feb 19 19:16:28 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 19 19:15:36 2007.

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the placement of the flag.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Feb 19 19:19:07 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 19 19:15:36 2007.

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The car numbers.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:51:01 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by PATHman on Mon Feb 19 19:15:36 2007.

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I was just about to say that R160s have a dent above each side of the anticlibmer while R143's don't but I noticed something in my pics.

R160s have it.
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This R143 has it
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This R143 doesn't have it
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Can somebody explain this?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Feb 19 19:58:16 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:51:01 2007.

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I guess it's for more foot room. Something they thought of when they were designing the R160.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:59:24 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Feb 19 19:58:16 2007.

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It's on the R160s but how many R143s have them and why weren't they put on all R143s?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Feb 19 20:01:48 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:59:24 2007.

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They had a shit load of R143's in that yard.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 19 20:18:31 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:51:01 2007.

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Modifications were done due to a T/O falling from the bulkhead sometime ago,due to lack of footholds.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 19 20:44:15 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:59:24 2007.

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It IS on all the R143s.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 20:46:22 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by R30A on Mon Feb 19 20:44:15 2007.

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I guess it is now. The pic without was taken in '05.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by R30A on Mon Feb 19 20:48:35 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 20:46:22 2007.

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All were delivered without it. Was a modification.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by mambomta on Mon Feb 19 20:54:22 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by FarRock on Mon Feb 19 19:51:01 2007.

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IIRC, the dents were added to the R143 after several T/O's got injured climbing up and down from the front door.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 00:56:22 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Feb 19 16:42:54 2007.

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Thanks it.

Robert

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 00:56:33 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Mon Feb 19 16:42:54 2007.

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Thats it.

Robert

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 01:00:03 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Edwards! on Mon Feb 19 20:18:31 2007.

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The T/O was my friend, he was out for almost a year.

Robert

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Tue Feb 20 04:14:43 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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I'll be out on the Eastern Division on Thursday photographing the R42s and if the 4-car set is out in the yard, I will try to photograph it.

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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 07:49:41 2007, in response to Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Feb 19 19:15:18 2007.

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They would have had to ordered 2 more sets to get the 8320 in the R143's, then all the R160's five cars sets would have been better numbered.

Robert

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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 20 08:06:44 2007, in response to Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 07:49:41 2007.

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Yeah. :-(

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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 08:23:02 2007, in response to Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 20 08:06:44 2007.

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Why the sad face?

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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 20 08:35:18 2007, in response to Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 08:23:02 2007.

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then all the R160's five cars sets would have been better numbered

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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 08:38:06 2007, in response to Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 20 08:35:18 2007.

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OK then.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 20 11:52:37 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by J trainloco on Mon Feb 19 15:33:24 2007.

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I assumed they'd want to test the 4 car units seperatley. Let me re-phrase: Does anyone know what line the first 8-car train will run on (J, M or L)?

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Tue Feb 20 12:41:31 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 20 11:52:37 2007.

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I would place my bets on the L first. But anything can and will happen........

IMO, L->M->J.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Tue Feb 20 12:44:19 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 01:00:03 2007.

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The T/O was my partner when I was a C/R on the L. Still KIT with him. In fact, when you see him, NETO, tell him I said, "Wassup!!!!"

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 20 13:27:09 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Tue Feb 20 12:41:31 2007.

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I hope you're right. I'm not excited about these things showing up on my J train, even if I accept the inevitability of them doing so.

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 20 15:28:14 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 20 13:27:09 2007.

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Don't worry, even after all the 160A-1s are in service, ENY will still need a few R-42 sets (unless I miscalculated). You gotta figure that the L will be all NTT (b/c of CBTC), probably the M (since they use the 143s for weekend OPTO now, makes sense to give them 160s), which leaves a few R-42s for the J/Z. Probably would run rush hours only, at most weekdays only. But I could be (and probably am wrong). Anyone have a count of exactly how many 42s are currently assigned to ENY? (the subway roster at utcny.org is 2 years out of date).

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Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Tue Feb 20 15:30:06 2007, in response to Re: PIC:Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Tue Feb 20 07:49:41 2007.

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Yeah, what was up with ordering 212? (instead of 220) Is the MTA that hard up that they couldn't afford 8 more cars on the order? (as it is, they don't have enough 143s to make the L 100% NTT)

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Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Karl B on Tue Feb 20 17:47:03 2007, in response to Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Feb 20 13:27:09 2007.

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Have you gotten attached to the R-42's, and does this mean that you may change your handle to reflect it?

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PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by The Maven on Tue Feb 20 20:16:50 2007, in response to 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by North-Easten T/O on Sun Feb 18 00:02:11 2007.

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Enjoy!



Regards,
Trevor L.

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Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 20:17:55 2007, in response to PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by The Maven on Tue Feb 20 20:16:50 2007.

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HEY! You stole my thunder!

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Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 20 20:32:59 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 20:17:55 2007.

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You didn't strike fast enough.

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Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 20 20:47:31 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 20:17:55 2007.

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That was my first thought when I saw this thread.

yu0 = teh pwn3d

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Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 20:49:36 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by Grand Concourse on Tue Feb 20 20:32:59 2007.

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Oh yes I did

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Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Feb 20 20:50:22 2007, in response to Re: PHOTO........Re: 4 Car R160's at ENY, posted by R4 Bryn Mawr LCL/R5 Paoli EXP on Tue Feb 20 20:47:31 2007.

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NOOOOO!!!

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