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NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006 From the amNY Subway Tracker:Tomorrow NJ TRANSIT will give a sneak preview of its first multilevel train “a six-car consist” at Newark Penn Station. I'd love to ride the first revenue run. I'd be most appreciative to whomever can post that info first. |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by South Ferry on Wed Oct 11 01:14:19 2006, in response to NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006. Give my beloved regards to the NWK Cops!! :) |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 09:37:44 2006, in response to NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006. has anyone seen that consist? |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK TODAY (WEDNESDAY) - 11am |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 09:38:26 2006, in response to NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006. From Railroad.net...11 a.m. NJ TRANSIT-MULTILEVEL TRAIN -- NJ Transit previews its first multilevel train after its regularly scheduled board meeting. Location: Newark Penn Station, Track A. Contact: Dan Stessel (for NJ Transit), 973-491-7078. I can't immediately find where on NJTransit.com this press release can be found, if it is there at all. |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 09:38:46 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 09:37:44 2006. Huh? |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 09:44:17 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 09:38:46 2006. .....I'd like to know if that new train is actually in the station, or if it is just represented by diagrams, posters, etc. If it IS in the station, when is it in the station? |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK TODAY (WEDNESDAY) - 11am |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 09:45:07 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK TODAY (WEDNESDAY) - 11am, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 09:38:26 2006. oic |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 09:47:29 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 09:44:17 2006. lol, yeah, they're gonna bring a drawing... |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Oct 11 11:06:36 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 09:37:44 2006. I saw consist of these cars sitting in a NJT yard somewhere between NWK-Broad and Hoboken a couple of weeks ago. |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Oct 11 12:20:18 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Oct 11 11:06:36 2006. I saw one of them off to the side while riding the PATH between JSQ and Harrison. I would have taken a pic, but PATH gets into a snit when you take photos from their trains. |
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And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:23:17 2006, in response to NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006. on December 11th, according to a poster at the event. (I'll upload some pix later today.) |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 13:28:00 2006, in response to And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:23:17 2006. Thanks! You win!!! I also just saw the press release on the website. I'm going to make a new thread since this is a big deal and I don't want anyone using compressed mode to miss it. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:39:12 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 13:28:00 2006. You're welcome! I agree that this is a big deal, especially since this is a new breed of NJT coach entirely. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 13:40:30 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:39:12 2006. So, did you get aboard? |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:44:54 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 13:40:30 2006. ayup. And walked around a bit, too. Three cars or so were open, including one with a restroom. The closed cars had sandbags on their seats and one car even had no seats and was full of white barrels (a sign on the platform explained that they were water barrels and that they were for testing in places such as New Mexico and the Northeast Corridor. Sandbags were also there for testing.) Tests are done up to 135 mph (!) in New Mexico, and there will be testing through December. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:50:26 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:44:54 2006. Ticket holds: About the same as in Comet VOddity: Exit windows for emergencies are labeled on the outside - and different cars had different numbers of labeled windows. Maybe they're experimenting with those. Reason for double vestibules: one of the two on each end is for embarking and alighting at low platforms (rarely necessary on the NEC, which is all-high-platform on NJT). The other is apparently to replace the middle door at busy stations. Seats have movable armrests in the aisle side (but no "reading lamps", and downstairs has no luggage racks). Garbage cans have a snazzy design and so do the lights. Try not to bump your head standing up and sitting down. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Oct 11 13:51:14 2006, in response to And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:23:17 2006. Nice catch, thanks for being on the scene.Go ahead and brag all you want, you deserve it. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 13:51:52 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:44:54 2006. Awesome! Someone else on another forum thought it was press only and didn't try to get on.BTW: 135 mph at the Transportation Technology Center test track in Pueblo, Colorado They modified ALP-44 4410 to permit 135MPH operation and sent it out there to pull the cars. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:51:53 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:50:26 2006. Oh yeah, and the loo looks like it will use a standard water toilet, rather than vacuum (cruise ships and airlines commonly use vacuum toilets, which save water and suck in foul air from the #2). |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:54:13 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 13:51:52 2006. ah. I got the speed right. Knew it was somewhere in the Southwest ending in "o". |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:54:39 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Oct 11 13:51:14 2006. 8-) |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 11 15:10:55 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:51:53 2006. Unusual looking cars. But I'm all for creativity. |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 15:45:48 2006, in response to And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:23:17 2006. Why the inaccurate post title? Ain't the first bilevel that ever ran in the US; and bilevels don't warrant such a title. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by JohnL on Wed Oct 11 15:58:28 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:50:26 2006. Reason for double vestibules: one of the two on each end is for embarking and alighting at low platforms (rarely necessary on the NEC, which is all-high-platform on NJT).Define rarely. I end up low-platforming either at Princeton Junction or New Brunswick about once every two weeks. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 11 16:06:45 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by JohnL on Wed Oct 11 15:58:28 2006. These stations have both high and low sections of platform? I used to take that line a lot but I don't recall seeing low platform there. I saw high platforms. Are they only on one end of these stations? |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:16:39 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 11 16:06:45 2006. There are wooden low plats on the ends of the high plats of 2-platform stations, but I don't recall whether these are on one end or both ends. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Oct 11 16:17:06 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:54:13 2006. Are they still doing testing? If so, what routing do the trains take to get out there? I'm asking cuz it could mean a very rare photo opportunity for me as I live right next to the CSX tracks in Newark, De |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Oct 11 16:18:06 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 15:45:48 2006. Stop worrying over such small shit. You'll see that you will enjoy life a lot more |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels "Train of Tomorrow" |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:22:56 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 15:45:48 2006. It is NOT inaccurate: this is a newly constructed model of railcar (like a new make and model of automobile), and - even though the type of railcar has been built before - this is a train that NJT intends to run in the future. Thus, the title "Train of Tomorrow" is apt and accurate. |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:24:45 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by NIMBYkiller on Wed Oct 11 16:18:06 2006. IAWTP |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 16:27:43 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels "Train of Tomorrow", posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:22:56 2006. Complete fluff. The cars are built anyhow, and are not unique among bilevels in any other way than their interior dimensions. If they were the first bilevels anyone on the planet ever ran, then the fluff title would carry some weight. |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:37:37 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 16:27:43 2006. False. I have not seen a pic of a bilevel of this particular shape or design. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 11 16:38:30 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 13:50:26 2006. Reason for double vestibules: one of the two on each end is for embarking and alighting at low platformsUnneccessary. The MBTA Commuter Rail's CTC-4 cars manage to integrate high-level and low-level boarding within a single door: 
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 16:44:13 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 11 16:38:30 2006. Er, I think the Comet VI's will be just like that. They'll just have a third door that is high level only. But I could be wrong. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 11 16:48:02 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 16:44:13 2006. But then what's the point of having a dedicated high-level door right next to one that can open at both levels?If it's for extra boarding capacity, that would be wasted because the doors are right next to each other and it would cause passenger traffic problems. They should just make the doors wider then. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 16:55:41 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by The Port of Authority on Wed Oct 11 16:48:02 2006. They should just make the doors wider then.Single door leaf issues? |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark |
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Posted by JohnL on Wed Oct 11 17:04:47 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:37:37 2006. Then you haven’t looked! Seriously, there’s nothing special about these cars, except that they are a little smaller than usual because they have to fit through the Hudson tunnels. |
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Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Oct 11 17:05:56 2006, in response to Re: And the Train of Tomorrow premeires..., posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:16:39 2006. Thank you |
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Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 17:36:55 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by JohnL on Wed Oct 11 17:04:47 2006. proff? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 17:44:12 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 16:37:37 2006. I have not seen a pic of a bilevel of this particular shape or designYou haven't seen LIRR's C3s? These differ only in number of doors (including steps/trapdoors on end doors), corners of roof (to fit in the North River Tunnels) and manufacturer. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 17:48:34 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 17:44:12 2006. C3s also have a blocky shape, slightly different cabin design, and they are not NJT trains. Furthermore, the seating design is different and so is some of the cabin's "look" (well, slightly different). The reason why I am counting it as a "Train of Tomorrow" is because it is a new set of cars, which have never been on NJT before, and which differs widely from the rolling stock NJT typically uses. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 18:06:42 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 17:48:34 2006. Doesn't differ widely. NJT isn't so unique of a railroad that the appearance of bilevels on it requires a Disney-like fluff title . . . |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 18:10:06 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Oct 11 18:06:42 2006. It IS when the railroad in question is three blocks down the street, Mr. Florida! |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 18:11:09 2006, in response to Re: NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at Newark, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 18:10:06 2006. oops. I was thinking of Orange Blossom when I said "Mr. Florida". My bad. Maybe "Mr. Troll" woulda fit YOU better. |
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27 PHOTOS === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 23:32:54 2006, in response to NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006. All photos taken by RickyRab. Click the thumbnail to view the album.
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One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 23:53:26 2006, in response to 27 PHOTOS === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Oct 11 23:32:54 2006.  This was too blurry to make it to the album, but I'm posting this because it shows the handicapped area near the restroom, a feature not easily covered elsewhere.  Near the stairway, upstairs  The cameraman's serenade. |
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Re: One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Oct 12 00:08:28 2006, in response to One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 23:53:26 2006. Thanks for posting these and especially the ones at RFW. I like the interiors although the roof does look low on both levels. |
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Info about the Comet VI at the NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Thu Oct 12 00:11:36 2006, in response to NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK tomorrow, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 10 22:00:00 2006.  Training and Testing Protocols  "Why all the sandbags and water barrels? As part of NJ Transit's ongoing dynamic testing program, hundreds of sandbags and water barrels have been placed aboard rail cars to simulate the weight of a full load of passengers. Each car is loaded with up to 820 sandbags weighing 50 lbs each. Water barrels are used in conjunction with sandbags to provide weight for testing under maximum stress levels. The simulated weight enables NJ Transit and the manufacturers to test the cars' performance in breaking, acceleration, speed, and ride quality under real-world conditions and ensure that all performance, safety, and comfort standards are met." |
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Re: One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Thu Oct 12 00:13:32 2006, in response to Re: One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by Easy on Thu Oct 12 00:08:28 2006. The roof IS low because the Pennsylvania Railroad tunnels are low-ceilinged. |
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Re: One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Oct 12 00:17:20 2006, in response to One or two that got away === NJT Comet VI multilevels preview at NWK, posted by New Brunswick Station on Wed Oct 11 23:53:26 2006. You know, you could post those pix without that Photobucket link. |
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