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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 21:54:37 2006, in response to Glenmont loses its charm, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Mar 19 21:48:44 2006. Look there's one or two orange light left way at the end. When they're gone...To me the new lights seem brighter and safer. I wouldn't have a problem with it. |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sun Mar 19 21:58:52 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 21:54:37 2006. How are they safer? If anything, they seem darker to me. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 22:01:12 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sun Mar 19 21:58:52 2006. They seem brighter to me. I think that I see better detail of the finer features in the station. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:02:26 2006, in response to Glenmont loses its charm, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Mar 19 21:48:44 2006. Ain't no exit at the end of the tracks? Scary. Not the spot to be trapped at if you got a fire, that's for sure.I like the new lights, but that's just me. Old lights make the place look like a symphony concert hall, which I could never stay awake in, and it hurts my eyeballs . . . |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 22:11:14 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:02:26 2006. I see exits at the ends of the station. I wouldn't hesitate to use them if my other option was being burned alive. |
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Posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Sun Mar 19 22:13:10 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:02:26 2006. The photo was taken from the station entrance pod. Glenmont's only got one exit; the majority of Metrorail stations only have one set of exits.wayne |
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Posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sun Mar 19 22:16:33 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:02:26 2006. There're two exits - it's called the trackbed. |
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Posted by Subway Camper on Sun Mar 19 22:18:39 2006, in response to Glenmont loses its charm, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Mar 19 21:48:44 2006. The new lights are better. Now, when I stand on the Glenmont platform, I feel like I'm in a Metro station. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 22:23:16 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:02:26 2006. Ain't no exit at the end of the tracks? Scary. Not the spot to be trapped at if you got a fire, that's for sure.Wrong. Ever WMATA Station has an emergency exit at the ends of the platform when there is no surface mezzanine exit at the ends of the platform. Because Glenmont has it’s surface mezzanine near mid platform there are emergency exit stairs at both ends of the platform. There also are emergency exit stairs in the shaft beyond the interlocking north of the station. I like the new lights, but that's just me. Old lights make the place look like a symphony concert hall, which I could never stay awake in, and it hurts my eyeballs. Personally I prefer the mercury lamps over the sodium lamps because they better knock down the natural reddish tone of the sand and gravel in the concrete. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 19 22:28:23 2006, in response to Glenmont loses its charm, posted by SchuminWeb on Sun Mar 19 21:48:44 2006. That is too bad. I've always liked the different color at Glenmont.Several stations on the A Route also have improved lighting, including Friendship Heights (how long will that last?) and the areas under the pods at Tenleytown and Woodley Park. I was riding in the 4th car of my train home on Friday night since I was unable to reach the first and stopped under the pods at both Tenley and Woodley. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 22:29:07 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 22:23:16 2006. Where are those exits in the picture? There should be a sign that says exit, but I can't see one. How would one find these exits in an emergency? |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Mar 19 22:29:32 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Subway Camper on Sun Mar 19 22:18:39 2006. Now, when I stand on the Glenmont platform, I feel like I'm in a Metro station.Where did you think you were before? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:35:30 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 22:23:16 2006. I stand corrected about the emergency exit—I can see it, to the right side of the end of the platform. Puny, though—and passengers would be better served to have a revenue entrance/exit there. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 22:40:34 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:35:30 2006. Your eyes are better than mine. I still don't see it. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 19 22:56:02 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:35:30 2006. Why would they be better served with an exit there? Considering what is on the surface at that point, I must disagree with you strongly. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:00:02 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 19 22:56:02 2006. How about an exit to the mezzanine instead of the street. In general the more exits the better IMO. |
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Posted by New Brunswick Station on Sun Mar 19 23:11:03 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:00:02 2006. Why are Wash Metro stations so cavernous, anyhow? Doesn't that make it harder to exit the stations to begin with? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:18:46 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by New Brunswick Station on Sun Mar 19 23:11:03 2006. All of the newer systems (LA, ATL, DC, etc) seem to follow the same pattern don't they? I've heard a few reasons why they are so large, but what it comes down to is that because of the way the stations are constructed, having the platforms and mezzanines so large is relatively inexpensive given the overall costs involved. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 19 23:25:27 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by New Brunswick Station on Sun Mar 19 23:11:03 2006. Because the Fine Arts Commission approved the design. You try building anything in DC without their approval and see how far you get. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 19 23:25:50 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:00:02 2006. There is an exit to the mezzanine right near where the photographer is standing. Why do you want one at the far end of the platform? |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:32:48 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Mar 19 23:25:50 2006. To allow people to exit more quickly and reduce congestion on the platform.Having huge stations to accommodate more passengers but designing them with limited access and egress seems contradictory to me. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 23:33:14 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:35:30 2006. I stand corrected about the emergency exit—I can see it, to the right side of the end of the platform. Puny, though—and passengers would be better served to have a revenue entrance/exit there.The red light you see on the right side of the right tunnel is the B11 08 interlocking signal. The illuminated emergency exit sign is in the tunnel above fire door that leads to the stairs in the shaft adjacent to the blow out vent shaft at the end of the station. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:36:03 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 23:33:14 2006. The illuminated emergency exit sign is in the tunnel above fire door that leads to the stairs in the shaft adjacent to the blow out vent shaft at the end of the station.Not really an ideal location for an emergency exit. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 23:45:48 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:32:48 2006. To allow people to exit more quickly and reduce congestion on the platform.The station is a terminal station. The area around the station is primarily low to medium density residential. Having huge stations to accommodate more passengers but designing them with limited access and egress seems contradictory to me. Glenmont is by no means a 'huge station'. The open columnless design of the station gives the illusion of a large space. As I recall the platform is less the 30' (9.1m) wide John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Mar 20 00:09:03 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Easy on Sun Mar 19 23:36:03 2006. Not really an ideal location for an emergency exit.How so, said exit stair can be accessed from either tunnel. Where they do exist they are all within 30' (9.1m) of the end of the platform. The only exception is at the north end of the Congress Heights station platform which has the fire door to the emergency exit stair located in the center of the end wall of the train hall. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 20 00:22:14 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Sand Box John on Sun Mar 19 23:33:14 2006. Thanks for the detail. I was focusing on a white light, not a red, which appears to illuminate a fire door indeed. |
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Posted by Easy on Mon Mar 20 00:25:19 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Mar 20 00:09:03 2006. There are several dangers when entering a tunnel. The major ones are the third rail and approaching trains. The fact that a tunnel is not an ideal location for an emergency exit for passengers on the platform would seem to be beyond dispute. I would guess that it was a compromise location based on cost. If it is really the preferred location for an emergency exit, I'd like to hear why. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Mar 20 03:56:28 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Mar 19 22:29:32 2006. In the NYC subway, where he always dreams of being. |
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Posted by SchuminWeb on Mon Mar 20 07:05:04 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Mar 19 22:35:30 2006. That would drop you at (roughly) the end of the bus loop and a nearby KFC.Ben F. Schumin :-) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 20 07:52:11 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by R7 Torresdale Express on Sun Mar 19 22:16:33 2006. I agree. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Mar 20 08:00:33 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Easy on Mon Mar 20 00:25:19 2006. There are several dangers when entering a tunnel. The major ones are the third rail and approaching trains.I all station where their are emergency exit stairs beyond the ends of the platform one does not need to enter the track bed to get to the exit. The emergency exit is accessed by way of the tunnel walkway. The third rail is always on the opposite side of the tunnel from the walkway. Even in the event of a train evacuation in a tunnel walking in and or crossing the track bed to get to the exit is not necessary in more the 95 percent of the underground sections of the system. In 100 percent of the underground of the sections of the system one never has to walk near or step over the third rail to get to the tunnel walkway. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Mar 20 08:14:10 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Mar 20 00:22:14 2006. Thanks for the detail. I was focusing on a white light, not a red, which appears to illuminate a fire door indeed.The white light just right of center in the end wall is the window in the dispatchers office that gives those in the dispatchers office a view of the platform. The white light on the right side of the left tunnel is a florescent tunnel lighting fixture. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Mon Mar 20 08:19:08 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 20 07:52:11 2006. One would rarely ever need to enter the track bed to gain access to an emergency exit.John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Mar 20 08:25:12 2006, in response to Re: Glenmont loses its charm, posted by Sand Box John on Mon Mar 20 08:19:08 2006. I never said you would. But I would not hesitate to count the trackbed as an exit and use it if I needed to. |
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