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How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 3 08:32:18 2025 Do they bolt on? Is it something like how a trailer hooks on to a tractor? Whatever the connection, is that a point of wear over the years? |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Mar 3 18:34:20 2025, in response to How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 3 08:32:18 2025. IINM each carbody has a pair of truck bolsters that simply lower onto each truck. Then the electrical connections are made. If you lift a carbody, the trucks stay on the ground. The story goes that some the truck bolsters on the BMT standards were so worn that there was a concern the trucks would keep right on going after the train itself stopped! |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by gbs on Mon Mar 3 21:00:31 2025, in response to How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 3 08:32:18 2025. The trucks are not attached to the car bodies. Gravity keeps the bodies on the trucks. In this case, the truck simply dropped off the car body onto the ground:   |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 4 08:55:18 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by gbs on Mon Mar 3 21:00:31 2025. I still wonder why the glass beneath the car number was broken due to this incident.Bill M. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Numbersix on Tue Mar 4 11:05:57 2025, in response to How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by heypaul on Mon Mar 3 08:32:18 2025. Duct tape. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Mar 4 11:27:34 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Mar 4 08:55:18 2025. That could never happen on some subway car models including R-68s |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Mar 5 06:03:30 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by gbs on Mon Mar 3 21:00:31 2025. Curly was a victim of soicumstance. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Mar 5 09:17:40 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by gbs on Mon Mar 3 21:00:31 2025. That looks awful. Better tear down that el |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Jailhousedoc on Thu Mar 6 10:24:42 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by gbs on Mon Mar 3 21:00:31 2025. Where was the location of this occurrence - looks like Lefferts Blvd. station before the IND took it over. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 6 11:24:49 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Jailhousedoc on Thu Mar 6 10:24:42 2025. Jamaica Ave &168th St |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Orange Blossom Special on Thu Mar 6 11:50:27 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Numbersix on Tue Mar 4 11:05:57 2025. I thought they switched to flexseal because of the bad state of the tunnels. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 6 12:46:59 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Jailhousedoc on Thu Mar 6 10:24:42 2025. Where was the location of this occurrence - looks like Lefferts Blvd. station before the IND took it over.Not quite but the Lefferts Ave. station was similar to the Jamaica Ave. station of Dual Contract El's with a central platform. The location was at 168th street and Jamaica Ave. I don't believe Standards ever went to Lefferts. I do recall Standards going to and from the Rockaways in a snowstorm in the late '50s. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Mar 6 16:48:09 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 6 12:46:59 2025. The steels couldn’t run to Lefferts before the IND took over since the original Fulton St el structure between Hinsdale St and Grant Ave was never rebuilt to accommodate heavyweight steel cars. The only subway cars allowed to operate there were the Multis which were of a lighter weight corten steel and the Bluebird which was made of aluminum. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Mar 6 16:53:29 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Avid Reader on Thu Mar 6 12:46:59 2025. Thats as far as the BMT ever got on Jamacia Ave! |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Jailhousedoc on Fri Mar 7 12:11:55 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by randyo on Thu Mar 6 16:48:09 2025. Thank you for the information - I do remember seeing BMT standards on the Jamaica line terminating at 168th street when I was much younger. Was there any idea or proposal for the Jamaica line to get extended past 168th Street ? Jamaica Ave. east of 168th looks like an elevated line would have been placed there , but I guess the NIMBY crowd stopped that from happening. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Mar 7 13:13:49 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Jailhousedoc on Fri Mar 7 12:11:55 2025. Was there any idea or proposal for the Jamaica line to get extended past 168th Street ?Yes, as part of the original SAS plan of September 1929. It was part of a simultaneous expansion of both the Liberty Ave Line. It would have been extended east along Brinkeroff and Hollis Aves to Springfield Blv. There would also have been a spur from Brinkerhoff that looped back along 180th St to Jamaica Ave to connect with the Jamaica Ave Line. |
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Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body? |
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Posted by randyo on Sun Mar 9 01:51:12 2025, in response to Re: How Are the Wheel Trucks Connected to the Subway Car Body?, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Mar 7 13:13:49 2025. That is why while all the dual contract platforms in the BMT Eastern were built of concrete originally with the exception of 168th St/Jamaica and Lefferts. Both platforms were built as “temporary” and made of wood in the event both lines were extended. |
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