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Posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Sep 10 07:50:40 2024 Tuscarora Almanac for September 10 1932 – from The Book of First Runs The Independent Subway begins operation of the 8th Avenue Line between 207th Street and Chambers Street / Hudson Terminal. The station at Chambers Street / Hudson Terminal has two platforms. The two track island platform which will be used by the through trains to Brooklyn is known as "Chambers Street". The two track island platform with bumpers at the south end is known as "Hudson Terminal" (today's World Trade Center). Source: “New York Subway, Fifty Years of Millions”, (Electric Railroads No. 23 / October 1954) by Mr. Herman Rinke Ed. Note: In commemoration of the 75th Anniversary on the opening of the Eighth Avenue Subway the TA ran an “A” train from 168th Street to Chambers Street on September 10, 2007. The consist was 100-484-1575-381-401-1802. This is the first day of service for the “A” and “AA” trains. The “A” has now been in continuous service since that time. Only Tunnelrat has had a longer run. The “AA” was retired in 1985, but Tunnelrat is still with us. 1977 – from The Book of Last Runs This will be the last night of service on the section of the BMT Jamaica Line between 168 Street and Queens Boulevard. The last northbound "J" train arrived at 168 Street at 11:59 PM. The consist was (n) R-27 8028-9 and R-30 8528-9. The last southbound "J" train departed at 12:00 Midnight with (s) R-27 8241-0 and 8115-4. The stations at 168 Street, 160 Street and Sutphin Boulevard were closed. A new temporary terminal was established at Queens Boulevard. Free transfers are issued at Queens Boulevard to and from the new Q-49 Jamaica Avenue Limited bus route. There were two post-abandonment fantrips on Sunday, September 11, 1977. The first trip used “D” Types while the second used the “B” Types; 2390-1-2. 1989 – from The Book of Last Runs SEPTA closes the Spring Garden Street station on the Ridge Avenue line due to low ridership. 1990 – from The Book of First Runs Metro-North opens the Appalachian Trail stop on the Harlem Line. It is located at MP 65.9 between Pawling and Harlem Valley-Wingdale stations. 1995 – from The Book of First Runs Dean Street station on the BMT Franklin Avenue Line is closed. Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by W.B. on Tue Sep 10 08:13:13 2024, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Sep 10 07:50:40 2024. It was ironic that Jamaica line service between 168th Street and Queens Boulevard ended on what was the 45th anniversary of the inaugural of the first leg of IND service - as the last of the "Arnine" cars that were the first of the newer system (and, in their last years, assigned to routes like J) didn't last that long, all retired some six months before. |
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Posted by zac on Tue Sep 10 08:27:36 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by W.B. on Tue Sep 10 08:13:13 2024. The last of the R9s were 37 years old at that point. Because they were the last cars of the old technology though they felt much older. The lights were dim, the doors didn't work, they had a certain smell and that puff of smoke as they left the underground stations, and they groaned even though they were pretty fast. My guess is that the operators hated standing between cars on the mostly elevated eastern division too. |
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Posted by W.B. on Tue Sep 10 13:53:31 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by zac on Tue Sep 10 08:27:36 2024. The point was, they didn't even last up to the point that section of the Jamaica elevated was discontinued. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 10 19:45:49 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by zac on Tue Sep 10 08:27:36 2024. The musical groaning sound was from the spur-cut bull and pinion gears. They were quite literally music to my ears; you could tell how fast you were going by the gear pitch. Postwar cars have helical-cut gears, which are much quieter. A good analogy is a manual transmission. Reverse gear has spur-cut gears, which causes that loud moaning sound when you back up. My '69 AMX's T-10 4-speed has spur-cut reverse gears, but they're not very loud when backing up. Mu '98 4Runner is a different story. Its reverse gear sings out when backing up. Forward gears are helical-cut and are quiet. Back in the olden days, when 3-speed transmissions only sychronized second and third gears, you could hear first gear moan because it had spur-cut gears, too. The first-reverse sliding gear was spur-cut as well. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Sep 10 22:34:06 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 10 19:45:49 2024. Question: What was the advantage of the helical-cut gears v/s the spur-cut bull and pinion gears (other than noise)? IIRC, last time I heard a MN P32AC-DM engine running in 3 rail power, It sounded much like an R1-9. Seems like the Spur-cut gears are still being used. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Sep 11 03:13:24 2024, in response to Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by irtredbirdr33 on Tue Sep 10 07:50:40 2024. I’m not exactly sure if when the IND first opened, the A ran 24/7. I seem to recall seeing somewhere that during midnight hours, the A stopped running and the AA was extended to 207th St. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 11 18:40:50 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by randyo on Wed Sep 11 03:13:24 2024. Yup.The same thing happened with the E. EE trains operated during the midday and overnights, replacing the E line. Since the express only operated during rush hours, when the line extended to Kew Gardens, both EE and GG WERE LOCAL for a bit. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Sep 11 19:23:25 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by Edwards! on Wed Sep 11 18:40:50 2024. That pattern goes all the way back to Day One on the iRT. Express trains didn't operate during the late hours. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Sep 11 19:26:44 2024, in response to Re: Tuscarora Almanac for September 10, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Sep 10 22:34:06 2024. That's a good question. Spur-cut gears are less costly to produce while helical-cut gears are quieter. |
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