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R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 06:09:41 2024 Seen in CCYD yesterday that mad scientist R68/R68A set which makes its rounds is now on the Bravo.. 2846-44 coupled with 5034-36... The AC is absolutely frigid in that train BTW... Night and Day Operation Both Ends.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jul 24 09:07:19 2024, in response to R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 06:09:41 2024.* There is no reason that they should not operate together, safely. There are operating characteristics that are slightly different between the 68 and 68A, as I'm certain you are aware, but those differences do not affect the safe operation of the train. From one end, the train will feel like an R68 and from the other, an R68A. Perfectly okay in either direction, despite the myths.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Q65A* on Wed Jul 24 09:28:52 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 24 09:07:19 2024.* How do operating personnel regard the R68/R68A? How do they compare with other 75 footers?
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jul 24 09:41:22 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Q65A on Wed Jul 24 09:28:52 2024.* The OP, who has operated trains for more than 20 years, would be the logical person to answer your question.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Edwards!* on Wed Jul 24 14:29:27 2024, in response to R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 06:09:41 2024.* Don't see why they haven't been operating together. Yeah,there Would be some bucking, but all trains do it to a point. Is this now a "regular thing"?
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Wed Jul 24 14:47:33 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Q65A on Wed Jul 24 09:28:52 2024.* Hard to describe actually there is sometimes a slight “hitch delay ” when grabbing a brake but hey the train stops… It’s a adjustment if one is used to a R68 more than a R68A..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Wed Jul 24 14:48:19 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 24 14:29:27 2024.* Yep it’s been on the November and the Quincy..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jul 24 14:48:51 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 14:47:33 2024.* Precisely. No bucking just slightly different response to controls
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Wed Jul 24 14:49:16 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 24 09:41:22 2024.* TD BTW I’m staying put up here for another pick..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Wed Jul 24 14:50:14 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 24 14:48:51 2024.* Actually if the dynamics are iffy yeah there’s some bucking.. Usually when the train is about to stop..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Wed Jul 24 15:17:56 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 14:49:16 2024.* You've found your comfort zone. I'm pleased. I've not been up there since 2004 and I was moved to Pitkin
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Westcode44* on Wed Jul 24 20:08:21 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 14:50:14 2024.* NYAB-VS-WABCO
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Wed Jul 24 20:47:10 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 24 14:29:27 2024.* "You told me you could drive this thing." "Wasn't me." "No, it was the train. She bucks all the time, especially in that switching. She's a dog."
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Thu Jul 25 06:21:55 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Train Dude on Wed Jul 24 15:17:56 2024.* Thank you hopefully just counting down the years now... It stands at 2 years 5 Months... We looking to put an offer in on a house down in Ocala as well, selling the other place down there.. This area Kicks Rocks can wait to get outta here.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Jul 25 08:14:06 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 25 06:21:55 2024.* You know I only wish the best for both of you.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by trains61* on Thu Jul 25 11:41:16 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 14:48:19 2024.* Thanks for the info. The Lurkers' Guild. Mixed Marriages
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Catfish 44* on Thu Jul 25 12:39:58 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Jul 24 20:47:10 2024.* ‘What happened?’ ‘It’s a buck’
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Thu Jul 25 15:02:52 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Train Dude on Thu Jul 25 08:14:06 2024.* Thank you appreciate that..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Thu Jul 25 15:03:15 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by trains61 on Thu Jul 25 11:41:16 2024.* You are welcome….
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Thu Jul 25 15:04:11 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Westcode44 on Wed Jul 24 20:08:21 2024.* Yep two different braking packages.. Adds to the fun..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Thu Jul 25 19:27:55 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Catfish 44 on Thu Jul 25 12:39:58 2024.* "Musta bucked."
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Thu Jul 25 21:51:39 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 25 15:04:11 2024.* The main difference (that causes operational differences) is the diameter of the piping to the brake valve.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by LuchAAA* on Thu Jul 25 22:21:32 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Thu Jul 25 15:04:11 2024.* You know who got fired over this. He was working the Bravo, northbound and made a local stop somewhere between 59 and 125. After making a proper station stop, conductor opened the doors. Then he released some brake waiting for the conductor to close the doors and give indication. But.....he released too much brake, and the train rolled and the new conductor pulled the cord and called Control. His side of the story is that the train barely moved and the conductor overreacted. But this happened to him previously. He was at Stillwell doing a standing brake test and let off too much brake. Train rolled. It's a terminal and car cleaners are busy. A car cleaner banged him in when the train rolled.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by randyo* on Fri Jul 26 02:08:18 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 24 14:50:14 2024.* Although both groups of Multis WH and GE could run together, their operating characteristics proved rather interesting. GE Multis had eddy current braking and WH cars had dynamic braking, which were similar but not completely identical. Mixed trains of both types would often buck like crazy when coupled together. The R-68/68A mix most likely operate the same way. As a side note, there were 2 groups of GOHed R-32s one with NYAB and the other with WABCO and they also operated in mixed trains. How did those trains operate?
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Catfish 44* on Fri Jul 26 14:14:45 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jul 25 19:27:55 2024.* It’s such a simple moment but it adds so much
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Bill from Maspeth* on Fri Jul 26 14:19:02 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by randyo on Fri Jul 26 02:08:18 2024.* WABCO (Phase I) and NYAB (Phase II) cars were assigned to JYD at the same time and regularly mixed in 10 car trains. They operated fine.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Fri Jul 26 14:31:42 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 26 14:19:02 2024.* Absolutely true
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Fri Jul 26 20:10:30 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 25 22:21:32 2024.* I remember the rolling brake test on the R-7/9s leaving 8th Ave. on the Lonesome Larry.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Fri Jul 26 20:16:41 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 26 14:14:45 2024.* "You're still in switching. Why don't you peg it up to series? You're green all the way." "Nah, we're in no hurry." (sneezes) "Cold sounds pretty bad." "I don't know, I woke up in the middle of the night!" (train bucks)
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Fri Jul 26 20:17:51 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 26 20:16:41 2024.* Shows that he was a shit motorman. Switching is not meant for running.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by LuchAAA* on Fri Jul 26 20:35:01 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 26 20:10:30 2024.* Yup. There is a running brake test too.
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Posted by Catfish 44* on Fri Jul 26 22:06:00 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 26 20:16:41 2024.* Hahahhaahahahaha What’s your name motorman? A Denny Doyle sir Ever been written up? A yes sir once sir What for? Running red signal. How about you? Twice. Once on the Canarsie line … That’s right Mr. Green go on and tell Mr. Doyle a little bit about yourself
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by randyo* on Sat Jul 27 01:50:46 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Jul 26 20:35:01 2024.* We were always suppose top do a running brake test but most of us never did it. The rolling test was to determine of there were any stuck air brakes in the train or any handbrakes applied.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sat Jul 27 08:25:22 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 27 01:50:46 2024.* Kev said he always performed it.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sat Jul 27 08:27:51 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Catfish 44 on Fri Jul 26 22:06:00 2024.* You're not a true subway buff unles you know everty line from that film verbatim.:)
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Sat Jul 27 09:18:29 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 08:25:22 2024.* Always? He wasn't around long enough to say always about anything
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Sat Jul 27 09:29:25 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Jul 25 22:21:32 2024.* Yep exactly… Was I surprised? No he always was glitchy at times with his operation..
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Railman718* on Sat Jul 27 09:30:50 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by randyo on Sat Jul 27 01:50:46 2024.* We are still required to do brake tests.. Even on Tech trains.. It’s only one step though.
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Catfish 44* on Sat Jul 27 12:44:08 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 08:27:51 2024.* That’s right
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Train Dude* on Sat Jul 27 12:59:52 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 27 08:27:51 2024.* Or at least can spot every error in the film
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Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo
Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP* on Sat Jul 27 16:05:45 2024, in response to Re: R68/R68A Set on the Bravo, posted by Train Dude on Sat Jul 27 12:59:52 2024.* Yes, very true.
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