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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 14 14:14:39 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 10:54:26 2022.

In the criminal justice system there are different penalties for murder and attempted murder.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 14:29:58 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Apr 14 14:14:39 2022.

THUMP THUMP

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by jabrams on Thu Apr 14 17:19:27 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 13:46:40 2022.

Could someone explain the following: The N runs express in Brooklyn, as it was mentioned the last stop before 36th Street was 59th Street. However, the signs at 36th Street shows the N/R/W pointing right (local track) and the D pointing left (express track). So why is the N on the local track and the R on the express track in the videos? Was there a problem on the line prior to the shootings? Did the train operator or conductor of the N train have any knowledge of a problem before entering 36th Street?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 17:30:57 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by jabrams on Thu Apr 14 17:19:27 2022.

"Did the train operator or conductor of the N train have any knowledge of a problem before entering 36th Street?"

I'll guess probably not. What car did all this happen in anyway? (3d-4th-5th...etc). I'll ask the question that way before some smart ass responds with the car #.


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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 17:34:30 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 17:30:57 2022.

Where in a 4 car set is 5551 ?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 17:37:02 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 10:36:37 2022.

True. But hes in on a federal rap now for his interstate travels. He'll probably be defended by some legal aid lawyer that will probably go the insanity route. Either way, considering his age, he'll most likely never see the light of day as a free man ever again.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 17:42:29 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 17:34:30 2022.

IDK. Was it the first set of four or the second?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:20:30 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by jabrams on Thu Apr 14 17:19:27 2022.

What are you talking about? The W doesn’t stop at 36th Street, at least not with station signage indicating it.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:21:07 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 17:37:02 2022.

They already said he’s represented by a federal defender.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 18:23:30 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:21:07 2022.

Doesn't look like there will be any state charges.


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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 18:37:10 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 17:37:02 2022.

Interstate travels PLUS violating a law prohibiting terrorist and other violent attacks against a mass transportation system
(18 U.S.C. §§ 1992(a)(7) and (b)(1))

Defense attmepted bail and was denied (Why did she bother ?)

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:46:39 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 18:37:10 2022.

She’s obligated to zealously defend her client.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 19:07:17 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:46:39 2022.

Yep. Like the defenders of Berkowitz, Manson & OJ etc. Like it or not, they got a job to do.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 19:11:34 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:21:07 2022.

OK.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Thu Apr 14 20:24:41 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 17:34:30 2022.

Even numbered cars are cab cars in R-46 consists, so would have been the second or third car in the 4-car set. Basically 5550-5551-5553-5552 (or reverse)

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by jabrams on Thu Apr 14 22:10:22 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:20:30 2022.

It must have been a stock picture of the station that I saw on one of the news channels (ABC or CBS).

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by TransitChuckG on Fri Apr 15 01:49:33 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by jabrams on Thu Apr 14 22:10:22 2022.

Amid NYPD manhunt, subway shooting suspect Frank James ate lunch at Katz’s Deli, walked NYC in plain view of surveillance cameras
As the NYPD and federal law enforcement scoured the city for the accused Brooklyn subway shooter on Wednesday, the burly suspect took in some of Manhattan’s culinary delights.
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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 15 09:06:26 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by jabrams on Thu Apr 14 22:10:22 2022.

There is no station where the D and W stop cross platform.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Apr 15 10:07:06 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 13 11:30:30 2022.

Another more serious scenario would have been if the shooting occurred on local and those one or two injured passengers that were transported to hosp from 25 were stuck bleeding on express trains with typical Dekalb congestion on ntt that couldn't have been stopped prior

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by AlM on Fri Apr 15 10:18:10 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 15 09:06:26 2022.

Except for those few Ws each day that venture into Brooklyn.



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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Apr 15 11:37:40 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Ble-nimx on Fri Apr 15 10:07:06 2022.

A theory floated now is that those smoke "bombs" were detonated prematurely by accident and his intention was to do his deeds further up the line, possibly DeKalb. Also when the smoke filled the car, he got down low to get to the fresher air and to see which would possibly explain his shooting victims being shot lower, avoiding vitals and inflicting below the belt wounds, thus no fatalities.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Apr 15 12:43:18 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by AlM on Fri Apr 15 10:18:10 2022.

True, but as I mentioned before, they are not indicated by station signs.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by murray1575 on Sat Apr 16 13:43:51 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Apr 14 18:20:30 2022.

That is true but three W runs in each direction are put in service/terminated from CI yard on the Sea Beach line at 86th St. and make local stops using the R platforms on their way to Manhattan. This is due to lack of storage space elsewhere since the normal W route doesn't have direct access to any yard. I used to take one of the AM rush hour trains to work.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Apr 18 17:57:44 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Tue Apr 12 17:58:43 2022.

They would lock all end doors and many years ago it was discussed but the R46s have the unique ability to have all end doors unlocked ( except for the end of the train) by activating a switch in any cab.

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