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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 13 08:49:25 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 07:42:11 2022.

Sounds like he had a beef with Adams, so he was going to attack in Adams' city.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 13 08:53:38 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 01:25:55 2022.

Also have to wonder if he read these message boards or nycsubway.org looking for information that might help him carry out his plot.

Entirely possible. To quote the SWAT captain in Speed "...seated at the crazy but not stupid table".

When they catch that asshole, obviously they'll go through his internet history. Would be interesting if SubChat pops up (not that we would ever hear about it)

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 13 08:56:32 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 03:19:09 2022.

I agree about the possible hate crime angle.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 09:03:12 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 13 08:49:25 2022.

Anyone he considered anti-Black, including another black man (the mayor). He considerd NYC the "danger zone".

He left Milwaukee on March 20, went through Fort Wayne, Pittsburgh, Philly (on March 25th), Newark. He could not have taken Amtrak (Fort Wayne).

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 09:39:13 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 06:42:09 2022.

That would not surprise me either. Andrew Yang's hogging the spotlight during primary season made it difficult for other candidates to be properly vetted by the media and many think THAT is why Adams wound up Mayor.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 09:42:21 2022, in response to Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Wed Apr 13 09:39:13 2022.

More likely he viewed Adams' cleanup of encampments as anti-Black. He departed Wisconsin for NYC on March 20.

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by Railman718 on Wed Apr 13 09:56:52 2022, in response to Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:39:28 2022.

Seems he was a hater of self more than other races...

Here's his handle online,prophet oftruth88

Man had serious issues with Black people...

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 13 11:00:03 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Apr 12 21:27:13 2022.

figures

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 13 11:12:36 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 13 08:49:25 2022.

I agree. The cops have beefed up their detail around Gracie Mansion for that reason.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 13 11:15:25 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 23:59:36 2022.

Adams looks like shit. He might be sicker than they are saying.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Apr 13 11:20:47 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 03:16:57 2022.

It goes back even further to the GOH programs. One should ask why they took out the end door emergency release switches. One video in the shooting car, a B car, shows passengers crying to knock on the conductor's door which would not be there. With the smoke bombs, a clear emergency would allow for anyone to cross from car to car. The R32s or NTTs would not be a death trap. With the Tuffak windows and ceramic non fra door glazing and lack of emergency door release mechanisms, the R46s after all this time are now proven as potential death traps

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 11:23:24 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 13 11:15:25 2022.

Each picture of him looks like a different person.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Apr 13 11:24:36 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by BLE-NIMX on Wed Apr 13 11:20:47 2022.

NTT all have passenger intercoms which I am sure would have been used and the crew could then release the end doors. Could, who knows if they would have.

It is amazing no one pulled the brake cord, R46's don't cut out after 600ft from a full stop like the NTT's do.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 13 11:30:30 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Wed Apr 13 11:24:36 2022.

One "what if" nightmare scenario is if the cord was pulled when the train was halfway in the station. Then only the first half of the train would be able to open the doors. The rest of the pax (and the shooter) would be trapped in the back end of the train unable to escape due to the locked doors.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Wed Apr 13 11:33:33 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Wed Apr 13 08:53:38 2022.

Maybe we'll get lucky and this "Black Gentleman" as CNN referred to him will kill himself.

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by HANDBRAKE on Wed Apr 13 11:49:35 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 15:11:03 2022.

"Soon as they catch him, they'll investigate his social media, cell phone, texting, see if he is a lone wolf or part of a network, how long he's been in Brooklyn, his terrorist training, his jail record. He obviously is pretty good a this."

If he, the shooter, was any good, he would have cleaned his weapon before firing it so the handgun would not malfunction, as it did. This guy thankfully is an amateur. Just as the street gang shooters who can't shoot straight, because street gangs don't visit shooting ranges to develop any marksmanship skill.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 11:56:10 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Apr 12 20:34:40 2022.

Wow, you sure did a 180° on this issue.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 11:57:20 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Tue Apr 12 20:39:38 2022.

Read the 14th Amendment, Vladimir. Hate crime laws destroy equal protection.

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 13 12:31:38 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by HANDBRAKE on Wed Apr 13 11:49:35 2022.

If he, the shooter, was any good, he would have cleaned his weapon before firing it so the handgun would not malfunction, as it did.

As I understand it, Glocks are just about the best quality handguns out there. If James had practiced it and cleaned it, chances are it would not have jammed and he would have shot more people.

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 13 12:33:14 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 13 12:31:38 2022.

Suspect

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Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 13 12:35:18 2022, in response to Re: Up to 6 people shot, Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Apr 13 12:31:38 2022.

Any time I post that violent leftists are somewhat less dangerous than violent rightists because they are nowhere near as competent with guns, people scoff at me. But this sure is an example, thank goodness.

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Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, and Adams calls for federal gun control again

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 12:42:04 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Pollutico

NYPD boosts mayor's security detail in wake of subway shooting

The NYPD increased security for Eric Adams Tuesday after complaints about the mayor surfaced on social media in the wake of the subway shooting that wounded 23 commuters.

Police also released a photo of a person of interest in the investigation. Officials are seeking Wisconsin resident Frank James, 62, in connection with the shooting aboard a Brooklyn subway train during Tuesday morning’s rush hour. NYPD officials are unsure if James is the same person who posted videos to YouTube about a variety of topics that included the mayor’s crime-fighting plan, they said during a press conference Tuesday evening.

“We’re not calling them threats. He made some concerning posts, or someone made some concerning posts. We cannot attribute it to that individual yet; that’s under investigation,” Police Commissioner Keechant Sewell said from NYPD headquarters in Lower Manhattan, where she was joined by police brass and a representative from the FBI. “In an abundance of caution, we are tightening the mayor’s security detail.”

Sewell said the references to Adams, while not direct threats, were concerning enough to lead her to beef up the mayor’s security detail, which is currently overseen by his brother.

The Daily Beast reported one video warned Adams that a proposal he released in January to combat gun violence was “doomed to fail.” A man named Frank James uploaded the post in late January saying he hoped to speak to the mayor — a retired police captain — about his anti-gun blueprint, according to the article. “Because I see some serious flaws in his plan,” said James, who identified himself as a native New Yorker.

Asked for further details about the videos, Sewell simply described them as “general comments that caused us some concern” that are under investigation.

Police discovered James, who has ties to Philadelphia and Wisconsin, through a key to a U-Haul van he rented before the shooting. It was parked several miles from the location of the incident in another part of Brooklyn, they said.

At the scene in the Sunset Park section of Brooklyn, police discovered a handgun, four smoke grenades, gasoline, a hatchet and consumer-grade fireworks. The shooter — wearing a gray hoodie, surgical mask and neon green construction helmet — opened two smoke grenades, tossed them on the floor of the train car and fired his handgun at least 33 times before fleeing the scene, NYPD Chief of Detectives James Essig said.

Ten people were hit by gunfire and another 13 were injured.

Police are seeking the public’s help in locating the assailant.

The mayor addressed New Yorkers in televised interviews throughout the day and joined Tuesday night’s press conference virtually from Gracie Mansion, where he has been quarantining since testing positive with Covid-19 over the weekend.

“Today was a difficult day for New Yorkers. Days like these are playing out too often in cities across America,” Adams said during the press conference, describing the subway car as a “war zone” and decrying the “cult of death” caused by firearms.

The mayor referenced decades of mass shootings across the country — Columbine, Colo. in 1999; Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut 13 years later; and, closer to home, the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old in the Bronx.

“This is not only a New York City problem,” Adams said. “This rage, this violence, these guns — these relentless shooters are an American problem and it’s going to take all levels of government to solve it.”

Adams, who campaigned on restoring public safety in New York City, has increased targeted police units that patrol high-crime areas for illegal handguns and ordered police officers to eliminate homeless encampments and move people sleeping on subways into city-run shelters. But so far crime has continued to increase, though experts say it is too early in his tenure for him to affect change.

“Ending gun violence means changing gun laws,” Adams said. “You cannot clean up any flooding when the water is still pouring into the basement.”

Meanwhile during two of his televised interviews Adams would not rule out pushing for metal detectors in the city’s subway system, which is under state control.

“Is the time now to consider putting in something like metal detectors to prevent people with weapons and metal and this kind of thing from getting on the train?” WCBS anchor Maurice DuBois asked. “People just need to feel safe. Is that one of the answers?”

“I truly believe that,” Adams replied. “I’m often criticized when I talk about technology being used to identify those who are carrying illegal guns. This is why I am sending my deputy mayor of public safety to scan the entire country and globe to find ways that we could identify guns. We must marry technology with safety and I am going to be willing to do so.”

His communications director Maxwell Young later tweeted that the mayor “was talking about using innovative technology to keep the subways safe. He was (of course) not saying we should consider using airport style metal detectors. He’s a frequent rider and obviously knows that’s not practical.”

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 12:45:09 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 11:57:20 2022.

You are no lawyer.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 13 13:19:03 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 11:56:10 2022.

No, I didn’t. I’m still opposed to hate crime laws, they’re just not unconstitutional.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 13 13:19:23 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 12:45:09 2022.

IAWTP

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by AlM on Wed Apr 13 13:37:51 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 13 13:19:03 2022.

For Olog, anything he doesn't like is unconstitutional. Including the 16th Amendment.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 13:45:26 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Apr 13 13:19:23 2022.

I never heard anyone argue the 14th amendment about it before.

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Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Apr 13 14:18:05 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

Arrested in East Village today.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 13 14:19:58 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Tue Apr 12 08:52:55 2022.

GET HIM ARREST HIM SEND HIM TO ATTACA FOR LIFE NO PAROLE

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 14:26:10 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 13 14:19:58 2022.

Shoot him for a long, painful, lingering death.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 13 14:26:47 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 13 14:19:58 2022.

Suspect in custoody, arrresred by police!!!!

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Re: Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Apr 13 14:28:26 2022, in response to Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Apr 13 14:18:05 2022.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/13/brooklyn-shooting-suspect-frank-james-in-police-custody/

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Re: Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 13 14:31:47 2022, in response to Re: Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Apr 13 14:28:26 2022.

Arrested

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Re: Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 14:34:06 2022, in response to Re: Suspect Caught Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Gold_12th on Wed Apr 13 14:28:26 2022.

Zach is a hero

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 13 14:38:16 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 14:26:10 2022.

THAT WOULD BE TOO EASY

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 15:09:00 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Apr 13 14:26:47 2022.

Federally charged this time. Faces up to life in prison. No parole concept.

18 U.S.C. 1992(a)(7), which prohibits terrorist and other violent attacks against mass transportation systems, and crossed state line to carry it out.

He has had 9 arrests in NY and 3 in NJ since 1992. Never a felony, so he could leaglly buy a gun.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, and Adams calls for federal gun control again

Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 17:40:23 2022, in response to Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, and Adams calls for federal gun control again, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 12:42:04 2022.

The guy was arrested about an hour or so ago.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 17:46:49 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 06:46:30 2022.

What do ADA laws have to do with passing between cars?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, and Adams calls for federal gun control again

Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Apr 13 17:56:56 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St./4th Ave. Station in Brooklyn, and Adams calls for federal gun control again, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Apr 13 17:40:23 2022.

Lovely. Won't stop Adams though.

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Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 18:32:26 2022, in response to Re: R46 (N) train Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by randyo on Wed Apr 13 17:46:49 2022.

Wheelchairs

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by rkba on Wed Apr 13 19:57:40 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Wed Apr 13 14:38:16 2022.

I guess I was wrong.

anyone hear from edwards lately?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Apr 14 01:50:06 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by rkba on Wed Apr 13 19:57:40 2022.

STFU KLANSMAN BITCH

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by rkba on Thu Apr 14 03:43:17 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by https://salaamallah.com/ on Thu Apr 14 01:50:06 2022.

clearly black supremacists are the real issue.

you're like 100 years too late, dude.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 10:36:37 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Joe V on Wed Apr 13 14:26:10 2022.

Why. He committed a very repugnant crime but he didn't kill anyone. Clearly is you listen to his public rants, he is a very sick individual.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 10:39:15 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by rkba on Wed Apr 13 19:57:40 2022.

Are you suggesting that based on his racial hatred filled posts, here, "edwards" could potentially be a step or two from going lethal?

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Joe V on Thu Apr 14 10:54:26 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 10:36:37 2022.

One can fatally hemmorage with a shot in the leg in the "right" place.
Attempted murder is bad as murder, AFAIAC.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by rkba on Thu Apr 14 11:23:06 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 10:39:15 2022.

it's extremely concerning given recent events by black supremacists.

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 13:39:22 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by rkba on Thu Apr 14 11:23:06 2022.

I dont disagree

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Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn

Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Thu Apr 14 13:46:40 2022, in response to Re: Shooting at 36th St/4th Ave Station in Brooklyn, posted by Train Dude on Thu Apr 14 10:36:37 2022.

We (they) got lucky. Who knows how many more, possibly fatally, he would have shot if his gun hadn't jammed. Thankfully, nobody was killed. Talk about the NYC miracle of Holy Week!

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Re: Will this prove to be a hate crime?

Posted by chicagoMotorman on Thu Apr 14 13:49:23 2022, in response to Will this prove to be a hate crime?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Apr 12 10:39:28 2022.

Of course it's a hate crime.

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