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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 15:55:35 2018 I was told at an ERA meeting by Steve Zabel about an abandoned building in New Jersey that was part of the Hudson & Manhattan RR (now PATH). So I headed out there, by car with a friend and took the two photos posted here. The location, if I'm correct was what remained of the Erie Railroad terminal. The H&M Pavonia station should be below so was this the entrance ?  
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Posted by BMRR on Thu Jan 25 16:32:59 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 15:55:35 2018. Is the building still standing? Looks like the power was disconnectedback them. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 19:19:10 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by BMRR on Thu Jan 25 16:32:59 2018. Is the building still standing?Probably not. This area is all built up and you wouldn't recognize it today. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill West on Thu Jan 25 20:29:17 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 19:19:10 2018. Paul Carleton's H&M Revisited book has Pavonia station becoming Erie Station and then Newport station after the Erie moved service to Hoboken.Locating Newport station on Historic Aerials and then rolling back the dates shows a building fitting your picture next to the Erie roundhouse in 1966 and then standing isolated in 1979. In 1987 it has a rebuilt shape and in 1994 the present entry building appears 250-300 feet east on land that was tracks and parking in 1966. The rebuilt shape shows in Google street view in the median of Washington Blvd. on the north side of Town Square Pl.. Bill |
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Posted by Mike Cruz on Thu Jan 25 21:29:06 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill West on Thu Jan 25 20:29:17 2018. Looks like a vent house. |
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Posted by Joe on Thu Jan 25 21:34:47 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 15:55:35 2018. Please scroll down on this link to find the description of the Speedwalk or Travelator installed in the H&M Erie/Pavonia station in 1954.--- Both in the old days and nowadays I get mixed up, turned around as I go from the Tubes platform to the surface. Maybe the route of the Speedwalk is now an ascending passageway. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 26 01:07:14 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 15:55:35 2018. Those boarded up doors under the canopies look like some of the H&M station entrances I recall seeing at various stations along the system. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 07:15:48 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Mike Cruz on Thu Jan 25 21:29:06 2018. Looks like a vent house.The decorative canopies above the doorways would lead to it's use for passengers exiting and leaving the building in inclement weather. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 07:24:48 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill West on Thu Jan 25 20:29:17 2018. So this is the rebuilt building today ? 
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 07:35:11 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 15:55:35 2018. 
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Jan 26 12:02:47 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill West on Thu Jan 25 20:29:17 2018. Pavonia station becoming Erie Station and then NewportIt's the other way around. Erie station was the original name (as shown by the "E"s on the station columns), then it became Pavonia Ave., then Pavonia-Newport, and finally just Newport. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 12:56:23 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Dyre Dan on Fri Jan 26 12:02:47 2018. 
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Posted by Bill West on Fri Jan 26 15:56:07 2018, in response to [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jan 25 15:55:35 2018. A scattergun reply:Mike: you are correct, I misread Carleton's description of the changes in the station names. Bill's present day picture: No, that's new entry from the 1987-94. The rebuilt entry is the one with the pale green doors here . As Mike mentions it's providing ventilation. It may also be over the stairways down to the station mezzanine and platforms. Bill's old Erie picture: Those IRT style entries are on this old webpage . Select 5. Tube Stations and go 1/4 way down. They connected the two stations. David Pirmann's site discusses this station about 2/3's of the way down and at the bottom you can select pictures by location to see some interior shots. The location of the travellator is mentioned and so is a passage to the Erie Station. Bill |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 16:51:55 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill West on Fri Jan 26 15:56:07 2018. Thank you Bill for your information. The mystery is solved !Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 27 15:08:06 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 07:35:11 2018. That one is really sad. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Sat Jan 27 16:04:43 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Jan 26 07:35:11 2018. EIRE,Hell, it' down right spooky! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jan 27 19:03:08 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 27 15:08:06 2018. 
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Jan 27 20:39:26 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jan 27 19:03:08 2018. Much better, especially all the gentlemen wearing hats. |
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Posted by BMRR on Sun Jan 28 08:47:44 2018, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] The Mystery Hudson & Manhattan RR Building, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Jan 27 19:03:08 2018. Ahh....Looks better, what year? |
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