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Posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 21 20:36:28 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Aug 21 10:51:53 2017. Arian. Definitely, Arian. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 21 21:18:13 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by R2ChinaTown on Mon Aug 21 20:36:28 2017. Those Arians are definitely heretics. |
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Posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 21 23:32:43 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Mon Aug 21 20:28:33 2017. It had no commentary except that it was ridiculous.Leftist Idiots. Haven't you learned your lesson about lying about things I can easily link to? In any case, it's nice to see the point sailed right over your head as it usually does. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Aug 22 02:38:10 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Nilet on Mon Aug 21 23:32:43 2017. There is no oint in your rants. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Tue Aug 22 05:36:30 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Dyre Dan on Mon Aug 21 16:25:47 2017. From a previous message:"Did Vickers know what Och's political opinions were? He may have assumed that since he was from the south, he sympathized with the Southern cause (as his mother in fact did)." So far there does not seem to be ANY EVIDENCE of such a tie or knowledge. Here's the other thing that IS in plain evidence - the various banner tiles that exist through out the 42nd Street-Times Square station. Then there's the various tile banner designs that Vickers made in several subway stations - basically just functional tile designs. Yes, there's the tile and ceramic works at places such as Astor Place, etc. which Vickers wanted to get away from. So basically there are five facts: a) Some of the original subway stations had art work and tile work at places such as Astor Place reflective of famous persons. In case of the Astor Place subway station, the artwork is reflective of John Jacob Astor's fortune derived from the beaver-pelt trade. However this association was spelled out from Day 1 - it was not a "hidden fact." b) The original Times Square subway station was built UNDER the then "new" Times Square building, and the area was renamed from Long Acre Square to Times Square. The New York Times is a very famous and influential newspaper. c) Squire Vickers designed the tile banner designs at the Times Square station that opened in 1917 to reflect the "Cross-roads" of the World - Broadway and Seventh Avenue. Squire Vickers was the master architect for the subways for decades and produced plenty of works seen every day by millions of riders. d) The early owners of the Times Newspaper did have a relationship with the Confederacy, at least the mother of Adolph Ochs. Suggesting that there is a connection to the recent sons born in New York is a stretch, even though the family history could be interesting. e) The modification of the 1811 Street Grid Plan for New York City which originally did not have Broadway within the design created a "circle" or "square" at every intersection where Broadway met one of the "avenues". That is why there's Union Square, Herald Square, Times Square, Lincoln Square (the intersection of Broadway and Columbus Avenue), Columbus Circle, Verdi Square (Broadway and Amsterdam Avenue) and so on. Each of these places could be called a "cross-roads". --- Attempting to tie all of these facts into one grand story that explains a set of subway banner tiles at a particular station could be a very difficult stretch. Mike |
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Posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 22 09:30:52 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 21 12:12:42 2017. There's also Adolf Menjou and Adolf Busch, one film actor, the other a classical violinist. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 11:00:35 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Tue Aug 22 02:38:10 2017. He must have way too much time on his hands. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 22 11:03:28 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Express Rider on Tue Aug 22 09:30:52 2017. "Adolphus Busch" when it comes to the Anheuser-Busch brewer. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:08:02 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Mon Aug 21 02:26:16 2017. So, it turns out that the X symbol WAS a tribute to the Confederacy.Y'all know, none of this would be a problem if we hadn't spent the last 150 years honoring rebels and traitors to the United States. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:10:12 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:08:02 2017. So, it turns out that the X symbol WAS a tribute to the Confederacy.Y'all know, none of this would be a problem if we hadn't spent the last 150 years honoring rebels and traitors to the United States. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:15:16 2017, in response to Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Fri Aug 18 18:16:08 2017. 1447212Looks like the rightist idiots were wrong. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 11:19:00 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:08:02 2017. Nope; you're wrong as usual. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 11:20:12 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With A Lot To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:15:16 2017. Nope; you're wrong as usual. Opinion on "History.net" is not fact, sorry. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 11:21:13 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With A Lot To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:10:12 2017. No; it turns out that someone thinks that the "X symbol" is a "tribute to the Confederacy". You're celebrating a bit too soon there, you racist you. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 15:23:43 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:08:02 2017. Nope!You just STOPPED reading the rest of the postings on this matter! You neglected to look at the history of Squires Vickers, the architect beyond the subway station designs for the entire subway system at the time. I spent a great deal of time looking into this issue, and posting what I've found. You also neglected to actually WALK around the Times Square subway station - its been there since 1917 to see the various versions of the "cross-roads" motif within the Times Square station. Mike |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 23 16:42:33 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 15:23:43 2017. Who cares about SubChat postings? The articles posted about Mr. Ochs' life are pretty conclusive. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 18:43:48 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 15:23:43 2017. pwn3d. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 19:19:21 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Aug 23 16:42:33 2017. Thank you. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Aug 23 20:23:11 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 15:23:43 2017. You posted:Although he spent the second half of his life in New York City, Adolph Ochs never forgot his Southern roots. Raised in Knoxville, Tenn., he had cut his teeth as a publisher of the Chattanooga Times, which he acquired when he was only 20 years old. It was not until 1896, following his purchase of the foundering New York Times, that he moved to New York. Years later, he would be honored by the New York Southern Society for a lifetime of “unusual achievements in the perpetuation of the history and traditions of the South” and for having “striven on the side of the angels for supporting with unique zeal and power the highest ideals and traditions of the Southern States.” He donated to establish Confederate cemeteries in Tennessee; to fund the United Confederate Veterans’ reunions; and to establish the Chickamauga & Chattanooga National Military Park. He ran editorials and commemorative and pictorial editions dedicated to Confederate veterans’ activities. But Ochs’ reverence for the South is best captured in his response to a 1927 controversy. Falsely accused by a Georgia newspaper of trying to thwart Stone Mountain from acquiring adjacent parkland, Ochs protested in an editorial citing his longstanding dedication to Dixie: “I concede to no newspaper publisher in the South a more loyal, sincere, enthusiastic and industrious advocacy of the best interests, welfare and prosperity of the South than I have shown in the Chattanooga Times and The New York Times. I am confident that all to whom I am known will attest that the South, its interests and its welfare have been and are part of my religion and profession and hobby.” When Ochs died in 1935, the UDC sent a pillow embroidered with the Confederate flag to be placed in his coffin. And this was at the very end of your post, so it's not as though he stopped reading halfway down. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 23 21:29:26 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With A Lot To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:15:16 2017. Oh please. An opinion piece, written by some leftist, to evoke controversy.Rubbish. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 22:43:15 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With A Lot To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Wed Aug 23 21:29:26 2017. Don't worry about that troll. He had to run away from OTChat when his racism was exposed. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 22:59:37 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by AlM on Wed Aug 23 20:23:11 2017. You neglected to look at the history of Squires Vickers, the architect beyond the subway station designs for the entire subway system at the time.There are several postings of his life, history and works in the NYC subway system that I also posted. Just keep reading. Squire Vickers designed the tile banner designs at the Times Square station that opened in 1917 to reflect the "Cross-roads" of the World - Broadway and Seventh Avenue. Squire Vickers was the master architect for the subways for decades and produced plenty of works seen every day by millions of riders. His work has been documented in a number of places over the decades. The modification of the 1811 Street Grid Plan for New York City which originally did not have Broadway within the design created a "circle" or "square" at every intersection where Broadway met one of the "avenues". That is why there's Union Square, Herald Square, Times Square, Lincoln Square (the intersection of Broadway and Columbus Avenue), Columbus Circle, Verdi Square (Broadway and Amsterdam Avenue) and so on. Each of these places could be called a "cross-roads". The early owners of the Times Newspaper did have a relationship with the Confederacy, at least the mother of Adolph Ochs. However her husband Julius Ochs enlisted and fought with the Union Army, and the issue divided the family. All of this is "interesting" history but there is ONE PROBLEM! What is the one problem? Did Vickers know what Och's political opinions were? So far there does not seem to be ANY EVIDENCE of such a tie or knowledge. THAT IS WHAT IS MISSING!!! Here's the other thing that IS in plain evidence - the various banner tiles that exist through out the 42nd Street-Times Square station. Then there's the various tile banner designs that Vickers made in several subway stations - basically just functional tile designs. Pointing to some of the original subway stations with art work and tile work at places such as Astor Place reflective UNDERCUTS the arguments made about Times Square and the Confederacy. In case of the Astor Place subway station (similar to other stations) - the artwork is reflective of John Jacob Astor's fortune derived from the beaver-pelt trade. This association was spelled out from Day 1 - it was not a "hidden fact." Mike |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 24 03:17:50 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With A Lot To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Wed Aug 23 10:15:16 2017. wrong about what?I predicted that the momentum of statue shaming would expand to NYC beyond the subway tiles and focus on Columbus Circle. I was right. Columbus Circle is under focus. Some ugly chick wants to cover Columbus' statue. One day it won't be Columbus Circle. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 06:32:39 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 11:20:12 2017. They want so hard to believe. It's sad actually. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 06:55:20 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 22:59:37 2017. Exactly. But they just want to hold on to a string of hope, to cover up the absurd actions of the radical left that started this fake controversy out of tiles. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 06:55:20 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 22:59:37 2017. Exactly. But they just want to hold on to a string of hope, to cover up the absurd actions of the radical left that started this fake controversy out of tiles. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 08:13:22 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With A Lot To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 24 03:17:50 2017. One day the left will be crushed. It's not the inexorable force you think it is. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 09:25:57 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 24 08:13:22 2017. This is exactly the kind of thing that will do them in, and is doing them in. Instead of changing paths, and understand and learn from why they lost the election, the left has doubled down on the same garbage. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 12:09:21 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 09:25:57 2017. "The left" is not supporting the removal of Columbus' statue.It is, however, supporting the removal of monuments to treason that were not even installed when they would have actually been historical. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 14:12:04 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 12:09:21 2017. I mentioned nothing about Columbus Circle. And the crossroads tiles at Times Square have NOTHING to do with the Confederate flag. It's a stupid perception problem that the extreme snowflake leftists imagine that the tiles look like an on the side confederate flag. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 14:26:35 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 14:12:04 2017. Yes, you did. Do you pay attention to the posts you respond to?The tiles at Times Square were intended to be Confederate flags, there's no question. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 14:53:02 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 14:26:35 2017. That's not true. There's no evidence Vickers had any thought or knowledge of this. That "article" is nothing more than a leftist opinion "research" project trying to manufacture this controversy because the tiles look like sideways flags. If they were intended to be such, first of all, they would have at least been horizontal. There were no mystery in Vickers' designs in the subway stations. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:07:21 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Michael549 on Wed Aug 23 22:59:37 2017. The NY Times's affinity for the Confederacy was well-known. It was reflected in editorials, among other things. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:08:41 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 23 22:43:15 2017. LOL, I hardly ran away. I left because I was tired of the ignorance and bigotry there. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:12:38 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 14:53:02 2017. As I mentioned earlier, and in fact is proven by Michael's post, Och's predilections for the Confederacy were public and well-known.And that article was written years ago, well before this current controversy. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:13:15 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 06:32:39 2017. Your'e the sad sack. Your eyes closed to reality. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 18:30:08 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Aug 24 14:53:02 2017. There's no evidence of Vickers' motivation either way. There is plenty of evidence however, for using a confederate flag design at this location.Also, where do you get that the flags would have been horizontal? Flags hung on walls are commonly vertical. The connection between Mr. Ochs, the New York Times and the Confederacy is without question. Meanwhile, the tile pattern looks everything like a confederate flag, and nothing like a "crossroads." Finally, is there really evidence that term crossroads of the world was already used in 1918? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Aug 24 18:49:35 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by LuchAAA on Fri Aug 18 18:41:27 2017. LOL! |
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Posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 20:16:51 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 18:30:08 2017. All excellent points. I especially like the last one. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:03:21 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:12:38 2017. The left has been trying to make a controversy out of them for years. |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:04:02 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 18:13:15 2017. No the sad part is manufactured conspiracy and outrage |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:05:23 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Aug 24 18:30:08 2017. "crossroads of the world" is not old, but the X intersection is as old as the street grid |
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Posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:07:18 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by italianstallion on Thu Aug 24 20:16:51 2017. Actually the last was the weakest. Call it what you want, the X intersection was surely there in 1918. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 08:33:54 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:05:23 2017. Except it's not shaped like an X, at least not at the angle used in the tiles, while the Confederate flag uses that same angle.If that was supposed to represent the intersection of Broadway and 7th, why was it not used in Herald Square? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 08:36:25 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by gp38/r42 chris on Thu Aug 24 21:03:21 2017. The right has been trying to rehabilitate those flags for years. Someone has to strike back. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 25 09:29:14 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 08:33:54 2017. Oh please with the "it's not the same angle".And does it mean they have to use the intersection style at every station? Many stations had unique decoration. Why not Madison Square? Why not circles at Columbus circle? I mean really. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 25 09:29:32 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 08:36:25 2017. LOL!!!!! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 10:50:59 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 25 09:29:14 2017. You are the one who is arguing that those crosses are intersections and not Battle Flags! They didn't use crosses at Herald Square and Circles at Columbus Circle because the tiles were not based on intersection geometry. Columbus Circle has navigational tools to commemorate an important figure associated with the station: Christopher Columbus. Same thing with Astor Place and the beaver for John Jacob Astor. In the same vein, the tiles at Times Square commemorate Ochs, without whom the square would not be named Times. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 25 10:51:42 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Aug 25 09:29:32 2017. Glorifying racism, treason and slavery is funny to you. Got it. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Fri Aug 25 15:55:03 2017, in response to Re: Historic Subway Tiles With Nothing To Do With Racism Or Even Confederacy to be Removed, posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Aug 19 23:54:15 2017. The station name needs to be changed because it's got a "bus" in its name when it really is a subway station. Just causes too much confusion to our subway riders. Just waiting for one of our idiot politicians to cone up with that one. |
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