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(Local service resume) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:22:22 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Service Change Posted: 05/02/2014 5:05PMDue to a derailed train at 65 St, the following service changes are in effect: * E train service run local between Queens Plaza and Parsons/Archer in both directions. * F train service run local between 21 St-Queensbridge and Jamaica-179 St in both directions. * There is no M train service between Forest Hills-71 Av and Essex St in both directions. * There is no R train service between Forest Hills-71 Av and 57 St-7 Av in both directions. As an alternate, customers traveling between Jackson Heights, Elmhurst and Manhattan are advised to take the 7 train. Customers traveling between Manhattan and Jamaica are advised to take the J train. At Jamaica Parsons/Archer, customers can connect to local bus service. Shuttle buses are operating in two sections: * Shuttle buses for the E line operates between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills-71 Av and Queens Plaza and 74 St-Broadway. * Shuttle buses for the F line operates between 21 St-Queensbridge and Forest Hills-71 Av. LIRR is cross honoring NYCT tickets at the following stations: Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, Woodside, Nostrand Av, East New York, Atlantic Av-Barclays Ctr and Penn Station-34 St. Allow additional travel time. |
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(LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:28:19 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. City Terminal Zone Branch CustomersService Change Posted: 05/02/2014 5:17PM Due to a derailed F train in Queens, the LIRR is cross-honoring valid MetroCards in both directions between Penn Station & Jamaica Station, including Kew Gardens, Forest Hills & Woodside stations. LIRR is also cross-honoring in both directions between Atlantic Terminal & Jamaica. LIRR is experiencing delays of up to 25 minutes eastbound due to added stops at Woodside, Kew Gardens & Forest Hills as a result of accommodating F train customers affected by the derailment, as well as a possible track condition at Woodside. Babylon The 4:03PM train from Penn due Babylon at 5:05PM is operating 14 minutes late due to a high volume of customers traveling because of the NYC Transit F train derailment. The 4:57PM train from Penn due Wantagh at 5:42PM, is canceled due to added stops at Woodside, Kew Gardens & Forest Hills as a result of accommodating F train customers affected by the derailment, as well as possible track condition at Woodside. Customers will be accommodated by the 5:03PM train from Penn due Freeport at 5:46PM, which will be extended to Wantagh, making all local stops. Long Beach: The 4:15PM train from Penn due Long Beach at 5:08PM which was operating 10 minutes late because of added stops, is now 24 minutes late due to a late-arriving connection at Jamaica. Oyster Bay: The 4:18PM train from Hunterspoint Ave. due Oyster Bay at 5:30PM is operating 25 minutes late due to a late-arriving connection. Port Jefferson: The 4:06PM train from Port Jefferson due Jamaica at 5:39PM is operating 10 minutes late due to a late-arriving eastbound train in single-track territory. Port Washington: The 5:11PM train from Penn due Port Washington at 5:47PM is canceled due to added stops at Woodside, Kew Gardens & Forest Hills as a result of accommodating F train customers affected by the derailment, as well as possible track condition at Woodside. Customers will be accommodated by the 5:15PM from Penn due Great Neck at 5:45PM, which will be extended to Port Washington. The 5:26PM train from Penn due Port Washington at 6:04PM is canceled due to added stops at Woodside, Kew Gardens & Forest Hills as a result of accommodating F train customers affected by the derailment, as well as possible track condition at Woodside. Customers will be accommodated by the 5:30PM from Penn due Great Neck at 6:05PM, which will be extended to Port Washington. Ronkonkoma: The 4:24PM train from Penn due Ronkonkoma at 5:44PM is operating 21 minutes late due to a high volume of customers traveling because of the NYC Transit F train derailment. The 3:55PM train from Penn due Ronkonkoma at 5:16PM is operating 11 minutes late due to a high volume of customers traveling because of the NYC Transit F train derailment. The 4:09PM train from Penn due Farmingdale at 5:04PM is operating 13 minutes late due to a high volume of customers traveling because of the NYC Transit F train derailment. |
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Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by mrw on Fri May 2 17:48:45 2014, in response to (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:28:19 2014. Do they actually check for "valid MetroCards"? |
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Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 18:00:04 2014, in response to Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by mrw on Fri May 2 17:48:45 2014. Nope. I didn't even show them my metrocard :p |
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(Speed is not the factor) derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 18:05:50 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. ABC-7 reported:- Speed is not the factor - 400 feet of track is destroy - 10pm to 7am next morning shutdown for the repairs. |
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Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 18:09:46 2014, in response to Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 18:00:04 2014. No surprise. With all those additional riders, the c/r's would have a hard time walking thru the train. They'll just check tix east of Jamaica. |
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Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:14:29 2014, in response to Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Bill From Maspeth on Fri May 2 18:09:46 2014. Whenever they say: "LIRR/MNRR/NJT is cross honoring [electronic fare media] from x to y"I hear: "LIRR/MNRR/NJT is free from x to y"... |
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Emergency G/O: No Queens Blvd service from 10pm Friday til 7 am Saturday due to derailment |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 18:25:49 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Following an earlier train derailment near 65 St, (E) (F) service has been restored on local tracks along the Queens Boulevard line. Express service in both directions on the lines will be suspended until after the incident train is removed from the track after the rush hour.The (M) (R) trains will not run along the Queens Boulevard line. (R) trains will run between Whitehall St and 57 St-7 Av in Manhattan. (M) trains will run between Metropolitan Av in Queens and Chambers St in Manhattan. All service will be suspended along the Queens Boulevard line from 10 p.m. Friday to 7 a.m. Saturday for the removal of the derailed train. Limited shuttle bus service will be provided but customers should use the (7) train as an alternate for some stops along the Queens Boulevard line or the MTA Long Island Rail Road. LIRR is cross-honoring valid MetroCards in both directions between Penn Station and Jamaica Station, including Kew Gardens, Forest Hills and Woodside, as well as stops between Atlantic Terminal and Jamaica. There is no timetable for restoration of express service on the Queens Boulevard line. Weekend construction work on the (7) (J) (M) lines has been canceled. Please allow for additional travel time on the affected subway lines and higher volume of customers on the LIRR. http://www.mta.info/press-release/nyc-transit/mta-nyct-service-advisory-local-service-restored-e-f-queens-boulevard |
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Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 2 18:26:04 2014, in response to Re: (LIRR delays: up to 25 mins) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri May 2 18:14:29 2014. And I hear "GO RAILFAN NOW." |
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Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by mrw on Fri May 2 19:24:32 2014, in response to (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:14:02 2014. In the top photo, it looks like the lights are on inside the train -- does that the third rail is still powered? |
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Re: (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by trains61 on Fri May 2 19:27:57 2014, in response to Re: (1pm press conference video) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by The Silence on Fri May 2 15:49:50 2014. Stupid questions :-( |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gene B. on Fri May 2 19:39:35 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Northbound 7 trains are terminating at 57th/7th? Do you mean northbound R trains? |
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Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 19:39:42 2014, in response to Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by mrw on Fri May 2 19:24:32 2014. emergency lights. 3rd rail is off. |
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Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri May 2 20:17:22 2014, in response to Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 19:39:42 2014. Once the batteries die the cars go completely dark. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by 5119 on Fri May 2 20:26:20 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:08:26 2014. As far back as I can remember, Manhattan bound R and F trains always passed 65th street at top speed and the slow down a little just before the curve |
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Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 2 22:21:39 2014, in response to Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Fulton Frank on Fri May 2 16:59:58 2014. Could one wheel have been derailed going over the switches beyond Roosevelt Ave & not causing further damage until it got beyond 65th St.?? Some passengers report serious bumping before the train stopped. Indicating possibly a wheel bouncing off the crossties. Strictly speculation here.Can a subway train travel that far, say from Roosevelt Ave to 62nd st with one wheel on the ground? If memory serves, train are going at a very good clip beyond 65th St on the express tracks entering the dip turning under Northern Blvd. All in all, it could have been a lot worse. |
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Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Train2104 on Fri May 2 22:56:13 2014, in response to (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 17:14:02 2014. In the last picture, what is that employee in the center attempting to move? |
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Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri May 2 23:16:38 2014, in response to Re: (Broken rail pics) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Train2104 on Fri May 2 22:56:13 2014. Trying to get the running rail out from under the third rail, probably in hopes of getting power on once it's clear. |
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(Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 23:52:16 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014.  Probably need to be repair asap |
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(Other broken rail ties / rail / track pics) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 00:11:24 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. NYPOST pics    Daily News w/ AWFUL watermark   
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Re: (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Sat May 3 00:48:30 2014, in response to (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 23:52:16 2014. Wow. I didn't know damage was this bad. To be honest when the train stopped it felt normal... though I was in the back car. The first car must have been a totally different experience.I wonder how l |
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Re: (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by R46 5636 on Sat May 3 00:49:08 2014, in response to (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Fri May 2 23:52:16 2014. ^^ Ignore that post, stupid computer ^^Wow. I didn't know damage was this bad. To be honest when the train stopped it felt normal... though I was in the back car. The first car must have been a totally different experience. I wonder how long the QBL Express is going to be down. |
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Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 3 00:49:10 2014, in response to Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri May 2 22:21:39 2014. One wheel cannot derail. |
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Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 3 00:50:48 2014, in response to Re: (MTA statement) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 3 00:49:10 2014. Clarification: One wheel in and of itself cannot derail. However in the instance where a rail rolls over. One wheel would come off the rail initially but not for long |
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Re: (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 00:56:01 2014, in response to Re: (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R46 5636 on Sat May 3 00:49:08 2014. They will have too put temporarily support beams. |
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Re: (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by SubwaySurf on Sat May 3 02:09:34 2014, in response to Re: (Support columns damage pic) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R46 5636 on Sat May 3 00:48:30 2014. First and last cars did not derail. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat May 3 03:53:48 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by 5119 on Fri May 2 20:26:20 2014. Why would R trains pass 65 St since they were Queens locals? |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sat May 3 11:10:42 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R46 5636 on Fri May 2 15:26:05 2014. Back when we were testing the R-46 GOH cars the train would be kept on the post after leaving Roosevelt Ave up until we hit 36th St. There were no timers or need for them. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Sat May 3 13:29:15 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Train Dude on Sat May 3 11:10:42 2014. Could the rails at the derailment scene have been spread out of gauge by a severely hunting truck? |
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(SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:32:43 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. |
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(12pm update service changes) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:42:54 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014. Service Change Posted: 05/03/2014 12:30PMDue to Friday's derailment of a F train near 65 St, the following service changes are in effect: E trains are operating in two sections: 1. Queens Plaza to World Trade Center in both directions. 2. Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av to Jamaica Center-Parsons Archer in both directions. (local) There is no train service between Queens Plaza and Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av in both directions. As an alternative, customers traveling between Jackson Heights, Elmhurst and Manhattan are advised to take the 7 train. Customers traveling between Manhattan and Jamaica are advised to take the J train. At Jamaica Parsons/Archer, customers can connect to local bus service. Shuttle buses for the E line operates between Queens Plaza and Roosevelt Av, making all local stops. LIRR is cross honoring NYCT tickets at the following stations: Sutphin Blvd- Archer Av, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, Woodside, Nostrand Av, East New York, Atlantic Av- Barclays Ctr and Penn Station. Allow additional travel time. Service Change Posted: 05/03/2014 12:30PM Due to Friday's derailment of a F train near 65 St, the following service changes are in effect: F trains are operating in two sections: 1. 21 St-Queensbridge to Coney Island-Stillwell Av in both directions. 2. Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av to 71 Av-Forest Hills, making express stops. Local stops will be made from 71 Av-Forest Hills to Jamaica-179 St in both directions. There is no F train service between 21 St-Queensbridge and Jackson Heights-Roosevelt Av in both directions. As an alternative, customers traveling between Jackson Heights, Elmhurst and Manhattan are advised to take the 7 train. Customers traveling between Manhattan and Jamaica are advised to take the J train. At Jamaica Parsons/Archer, customers can connect to local bus service. Shuttle buses for the F line operates between 21 St-Queensbridge and Roosevelt Av. M train service will operate normal weekend service between Middle Village-Metropolitan Av to Myrtle Av. Allow additional travel time. LIRR is cross honoring NYCT tickets at the following stations: Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, Woodside, Nostrand Av, East New York, Atlantic Av- Barclays Ctr and Penn Station-34 St. Service Change Posted: 05/03/2014 12:07PM Due to Friday's derailment of a F train near 65 St, the following service changes are in effect: There is no R train service between Forest Hills-71 Av and 57 St-7 Av in both directions. As an alternative, customers are advised to transfer at 42 St-Times Sq for 7 or N train service to Queens and transfer to shuttle bus. LIRR is cross honoring tickets at the following stations: Sutphin Blvd-Archer Av, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, Woodside, Nostrand Av, East New York, Atlantic Av-Barclays Center and Penn Station-34 St. Allow additional travel time. |
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(Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:48:33 2014, in response to (12pm update service changes) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:42:54 2014. The MTA expects to restore local E, F service along the Queens Boulevard line at approximately 1 p.m. following a train derailment near 65 St on Friday and overnight service suspension for repairs. Express service in both directions on the lines remains suspended.All train service was suspended along the Queens Boulevard line to allow crews to remove four cars on the eight-car incident train. Shuttle bus service was available for customers at the affected stops between Queens Plaza and Forest Hills-71 St and between 21 St-Queensbridge and Forest Hills-71 St. Work to repair tracks will extend into early Monday with the goal of restoring full normal service on all four affected lines in time for the morning commute. Local service on the E, F will be suspended at 10 p.m. Saturday until approximately 10 a.m. Sunday to remove the remaining cars and to complete repairs on significant stretches of track. Shuttle buses will be provided for overnight customers along the Queens Boulevard line. R trains are running between Whitehall St and 57 St-7 Av in Manhattan. 7, J, M Weekend construction work on the lines has been canceled. MTA Long Island Rail Road is cross-honoring valid MetroCards between Penn Station and Jamaica Station. Please allow for additional travel time on the affected subway lines and higher volume of customers on the LIRR. MTA New York City Transit is investigating the cause of the derailment. The section of rail in question is stamped with markings indicating it was manufactured in the United States in November 2013, and a preliminary canvass of maintenance records shows it was installed in March 2014. The rail will be sent for metallurgical testing as part of the investigation. MTA NYCT has an aggressive program to fix and prevent broken rails along its 660 miles of mainline track. Track workers walk every inch of the subway system twice a week looking for flaws, and specialized rail cars scan the rails to find hidden flaws every other month. While every rail system experiences occasional rail breaks, the MTA’s continuous goal is to reduce them as much as possible. The results of this effort are clear: The New York City subway system, which carries 1.7 billion customers per year and runs 8,000 trains each weekday, has experienced only 17 mainline derailments in the last decade. Federal Transit Administration figures show that while the MTA’s subway system is far larger than any other in the United States, in most years its derailment rate is less than half the national average. This record is impressive, and the MTA’s goal is to reduce that number to zero. As part of that effort, the MTA maps the location of broken rails and other rail defects to identify where a large-scale replacement project would have the greatest impact. The results were presented in February to the MTA Board’s Capital Program Oversight Committee. They showed five corridors, including the E, F, M, R line through Queens where Friday’s derailment occurred, where the largest number of breaks occurred. The MTA has developed plans to install 23 miles of continuous welded rail in those sections to reduce breaks, improve track conditions and reduce noise and vibration levels. The MTA has a safe subway system, and is using sophisticated data analysis and the capital planning process to make its rails even safer. http://www.mta.info/news/2014/05/03/local-service-expected-resume-e-f-queens-boulevard-line-1-pm-following-overnight 1PM past... still working on it. |
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(F) train derailed in known Queens trouble zone MTA deemed ‘critical rail break’ area |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:53:41 2014, in response to derailed F train this morning, posted by JFK Depot on Fri May 2 11:25:11 2014.  The F train that derailed in Queens on Friday exposed the dangers of failure-prone tracks and the need to expedite a planned replacement program that is at least a year away. The train, carrying about 1,000 people, broke free of the rails on an express track near the local station at Broadway and 65th St. in Woodside. The area falls within one of five zones the MTA has deemed “critical rail break” corridors and slated for future replacement. The Queens trouble zone, along the Queens Blvd. line between 50th St. and 71st St./Continental Ave. in Forest Hills, had 205 broken rails between 2005 and 2012 — the second-highest concentration during that period of any part of the subway system. The Queens sector and four others were selected for a multimillion-dollar project to replace rails and weld them together for greater strength, but the project won’t begin until 2015, at the earliest. Rails in the Queens corridor, and throughout the vast majority of the system’s 659 miles of track, are bolted and fastened together, not welded. The so-called “continuous-welded-rail” initiative is planned as part of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority’s next capital plan, which has not been funded by the state or the federal government. The derailment, which injured 19 people but did not result in any deaths, was under investigation Friday, but MTA probers quickly determined that a defective rail might have been to blame. Advocates told the Daily News that the riding public must now worry about whether Friday’s hell ride was a harbinger of things to come. “You have got to ask about this near rush-hour derailment on one of the busiest lines in the subways: Are transit officials replacing track fast enough and in the right places?” said Gene Russianoff, executive director of the Straphangers Campaign, an advocacy group. “We look to the national and state safety monitors to get us independent answers.” MTA Chairman Tom Prendergast, speaking at a press conference at the site, promised a “complete and thorough investigation.” He said the train derailed on track that was laid in the 1930s or 1940s and had been replaced “no more than 20 or 30 years ago, if that.” Subway derailments were all-too-common back in the 1980s — there were 20 in 1980 alone — but there was only one last year and just six since 2010, according to MTA records. That is due in part to transit workers who walk tracks daily to look for rail breaks or defects, officials said. Since 1984, the agency has reconstructed and replaced 372 miles of “mainline” track — an average of about 18 miles a year, according to MTA data. But at the same time, the pace of track replacement has slowed recently compared to what it was in the late 1980s and early 1990s. Over the 10 years from the late 1980s to 1990s, the average dropped to 9 miles per year. And in the 10-year period running through this year, the yearly average has been 10 miles. State Sen. Michael Gianaris (D-Queens) said derailments are “completely unacceptable.” “This type of malfunction cannot be tolerated,” he said. “Every New Yorker should feel safe on the subway.” The Manhattan-bound F train derailed at 10:24 a.m. along a straightaway that follows a long, sweeping curve that trains enter after a downhill run, transit sources said. The curve has a speed limit of 35 mph. Prendergast did not say how fast the train was going. The motorman, a 31-year veteran, was heard telling the paramedics treating him that it felt like the tracks broke just before the train derailed, sources said. Riders had little warning. “Suddenly I felt shaking. I was in the first car. I could feel the train behind me go off its tracks. It tilted left too much,” said Robin Henaw, 22, who was commuting to work in Manhattan. “You could just feel yourself coming off your seat,” added Irvelle Cadet, 24, who was on her way to a job interview from her home in Jamaica. “I was sideways at one point. Then the conductor came over the speakers to say it derailed.” The first and last of the train’s eight cars managed to stay on the tracks. The others wobbled and screeched and smashed to a halt, destroying a section of track about 500 feet long, including the electrified third rail. Steel girders bent from impact with train cars. Riders were left in the dark. Some had panic attacks. “It was crazy,” added Henaw. “The lights turned off and there were sparks from outside. Everyone was worried about flames. The smoke was pretty heavy. People were handing out tissues. It looked like some people were passing out because of the smoke.” Emergency responders cut power to the tracks and herded passengers out of the cars, then directed them up ladders to an escape hatch leading to street level. Passengers described the evacuation as orderly and well-coordinated. “It didn’t take them long to get us help. It was probably 15 to 20 minutes before the conductor said that firefighters were in the tunnel. He also kept coming over to tell us to remain calm, that help was on its way,” said Cadet. “Firefighters brought pregnant women, older people and children off first,” she added. The train’s conductor and train operator were praised by police and firefighters for keeping their cool and assisting in the evacuation, said Paul Navarro, track division chairman with Transport Workers Union Local 100. Ten victims were admitted to Elmhurst Hospital Center, said spokeswoman Atiya Butler. None sustained major injury, she said. The others were treated at the scene for bumps and bruises. Express train service on the Queens Blvd. line will be suspended until the damaged train is removed — a challenge because what’s left of the tracks is useless. “It’ll take us a while,” Prendergast said. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/straphangers-stranded-train-derails-queens-subway-station-article-1.1776881#ixzz30fz7v9YL |
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Re: (F) train derailed in known Queens trouble zone MTA deemed ‘critical rail break’ area |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 13:55:42 2014, in response to (F) train derailed in known Queens trouble zone MTA deemed ‘critical rail break’ area, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:53:41 2014. >inb4 permanent timers on this stretch of track |
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Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 13:57:42 2014, in response to (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:48:33 2014. I'm surprised that over 24 hours later, part of the train is still there. |
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Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 3 14:24:24 2014, in response to Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 13:57:42 2014. I'm not. There wasn't any track underneath the train to re rail it.You have to jack it up car by car and install track and fasten it good enough that it can support the weight of the train. You have to support the cars so the men can safely work underneath. We want ZERO employee injuries throughout this process. |
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Re: (12pm update service changes) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 3 14:31:55 2014, in response to (12pm update service changes) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:42:54 2014. Did they run any extra J trains at any time ? |
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Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 15:24:10 2014, in response to Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat May 3 14:24:24 2014. I know, I honestly thought this would have been completed last night. |
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 3 15:29:19 2014, in response to (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:32:43 2014. SBK to the rescue. Once again the BMT had to pull the IND's chestnuts out of the fire. Thank you for posting this video.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 15:30:40 2014, in response to Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sat May 3 15:29:19 2014. And for a while yesterday, the only way to get from Manhattan to Jamaica was via the BMT. |
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 3 15:42:15 2014, in response to Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 15:30:40 2014. The LIRR was down too? |
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 15:43:13 2014, in response to Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by AlM on Sat May 3 15:42:15 2014. Via the subway. The LIRR never counts. |
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 3 15:52:03 2014, in response to Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 15:43:13 2014. OK.When I travel between Manhattan and Jamaica it's usually via the LIRR. But no doubt I am chopped liver. :) |
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 3 16:04:04 2014, in response to Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by AlM on Sat May 3 15:52:03 2014. You *do* look like a chopped liver. |
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Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Sat May 3 16:04:12 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri May 2 14:25:19 2014. Defective rail. Called it. |
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Defective rail was new (Derailed F train this morning) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat May 3 16:12:22 2014, in response to Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by R36 #9346 on Sat May 3 16:04:12 2014. Associated Press
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Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by AlM on Sat May 3 16:15:35 2014, in response to Re: (SBK N1 towing out R46 5636; youtube) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat May 3 16:04:04 2014. No. I may be chopped liver but I don't look like it. |
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Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Orion in Chains on Sat May 3 16:37:27 2014, in response to (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Gold_12th on Sat May 3 13:48:33 2014. Those cars are wedges against the pillars good! It is not a easy fix, the rail/roadbed destroyed. I won't be surprised if it will open mid week! |
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Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Randyo on Sat May 3 16:42:05 2014, in response to Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat May 3 15:24:10 2014. I figured it would be a complicated process due to the rail condition. |
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Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat May 3 17:24:48 2014, in response to Re: (Saturday's PR) Re: derailed F train this morning, posted by Orion in Chains on Sat May 3 16:37:27 2014. Could have this been more catastrophic if a similar derailment occurred on an el ? |
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