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Posted by snarf368 on Tue Nov 12 23:16:31 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. I agree with you about the abbviations and omissions of important parts of station names. It's disturbing that on all lines using NTT, needless abbreviations are used and they don't take advantage of the space available. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Nov 13 00:08:11 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. there are two "c" - cars in 11 car length trains...
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Posted by Jsun21 on Wed Nov 13 00:17:49 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Gold_12th on Wed Nov 13 00:08:11 2013. Is the tachometer providing the speed information for the A car? |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Wed Nov 13 02:33:54 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. At 5 Av, the station name displays as "5 AVENUE", not "5 AV". Every other station name street is abbreviated, even when there's lots of room. Why is this one spelled out in full?At 74 St-Broadway, the station name displays as "74 ST", even though Broadway is an important street at that station (the IND runs under it), yet at 46 St, 40 St, and 33 St, the old rarely-used names Bliss, Lowery, and Rawson are displayed. Put back the Broadway in 74-Broadway. Probably just a minor error in consistency. The R programs in the R-160 have similar inconsistencies with LOCAL vs LCL on the Court St programs. Some of the issues like that with 5th Avenue will likely be ironed out in future updates. There were also oddities with the new R-160s when they first came out on the N, such as displaying 59th St as 59-4 or some kind of TA jargon like that which got programmed in and was corrected. The entire complex should be renamed 74th St/Roosevelt Av which is what the TA calls it on Fast track posters and one of those two names is what most passengers use to refer to it, the IND & IRT levels interchanably. Perhaps Broadway has been left out for furture consideration of eliminating it (complete speculation). |
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Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 13 04:54:33 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. Have you sent your observations to NYCT? |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 13 06:48:53 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. I agree with you that on a Queens-bound #7, it's very important to make very clear if the train is an express. Most riders are not staying in Manhattan... |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 13 07:54:55 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by MainR3664 on Wed Nov 13 06:48:53 2013. The reason for NOT displaying EXPRESS status in Manhattan is simple and important. It is to get as many of the geese out of Manhattan as quickly as possible, and not allowing them to wait on crowded platforms like Times Square and Grand Central. Once they are out in Queens, they can sort themselves out if they like, and they will not have lost a moments worth of time. Except of course for the possibility of loosing a seat, but if you have a seat, riding on a local is a small price to pay.ROAR |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 09:09:35 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 13 07:54:55 2013. What was wrong with old-fashioned marker lights ? Even new PATH cars and CTA new 5000's have them. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 09:12:28 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 13 07:54:55 2013. I don't agree with that rationale.Shall we disguise Express & Local 6's and the J & Z to be one in the same, and let people sort themselves out in the Bronx and Marcy Ave ? |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Nov 13 10:47:46 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Jsun21 on Wed Nov 13 00:17:49 2013. The tachometer provides precise distance measurement from the start point for the CBTC to operate properly. |
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Posted by lance52 on Wed Nov 13 11:00:56 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. However, the train's automated announcements at Times Sq, 5 Av, and Grand Central called it a "Queens-bound 7 train", without specifying "express", a serious omission. I suspect that the TA doesn't want to confuse those (minority of ) riders staying in Manhattan, where the train makes all stops. Nevertheless, most of the riders are going into Queens and do care whether it's a local or express, and this should be stated at all stops, even in Manhattan.For whatever reason, the original "Queens-bound (7) exp" announcement was changed for the <7> to Main St. I agree that should be brought back. Transit went through the trouble of distinguishing the 6-local and 6-express in the announcements for Bronx-bound train. I don't see why the 7 should be any different. And it's not even like the 6 where there was confusion with the original "Bronx-bound (6) exp" announcement that made everyone think the train was running express on Lexington Avenue. There's only three stops in Manhattan (four when 34 St-11 Av opens) and they're all local. Bring back the express announcement (and local one for that matter) in Manhattan, or better yet, just start out with Flushing-bound (7) local/express and get rid of the Queens part entirely. Again, that's how it's done with the 6-line. The "Stand clear of the closing doors" announcement should be broadcast through the external speakers as well as the interior speakers, so people on the platform can hear the message too. This is true on all the new-tech trains, but should be corrected. I think it's only directed inside as it's meant for riders already in the train who might be standing in the doorway, not necessarily for riders who are waiting for another train and shouldn't be standing there if they're not taking the train departing. The Queens-bound express signs showed (7) instead of <7>. Don't the other diamond services still show <5> and <6> like they used to? The 7 express should also show <7>. It's probably a simple glitch that needs to be fixed. Speaking of which, did the express marker light up on the strip maps? Approaching Main St, the signs said "THE NEXT STOP IS" then "FLUSHING", not "MAIN ST" or "FLUSHING-MAIN ST". There's enough room for Main St, and that should show as the last stop. I believe the N and Q show "ASTORIA-DITMARS" as the last stop, not just "ASTORIA". The neighborhood may be Flushing, but the station is Flushing-Main St. At 5 Av, the station name displays as "5 AVENUE", not "5 AV". Every other station name street is abbreviated, even when there's lots of room. Why is this one spelled out in full? At 74 St-Broadway, the station name displays as "74 ST", even though Broadway is an important street at that station (the IND runs under it), yet at 46 St, 40 St, and 33 St, the old rarely-used names Bliss, Lowery, and Rawson are displayed. Put back the Broadway in 74-Broadway. For a while, Transit has gotten abbreviation-happy and have been shortening station names on the new techs for no real reason. Why? Who knows. Why 5 Av got special treatment is unknown as well. As is why Rawson, Bliss and Lowery are on the displays. The plastic sheet covering the strip maps attracts dust and smudges, and they're all already filthy and shabby looking, though brand new. This has been true since the first new-tech trains (even on the ads), but by now should have been corrected. It's plastic. It attracts a lot of dust. As does most surfaces. It just has to be cleaned every so often. The conductors need to be reminded not to bombard the riders with so many automatic announcements (including one I never heard, about adjusting the volume on headphones "for your ears only"). Some peace and quiet (and the cars are nice and quiet) is in order. There's always that one conductor that feels the need to play with the damn announcements. I know the rule about the Suspicious Activities recording, but that doesn't mean (s)he has to run through the ever-growing list of special announcements. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 11:14:31 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by VictorM on Wed Nov 13 10:47:46 2013. Is it based on wheel diameter ? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 11:24:38 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Broadway Buffer on Wed Nov 13 02:33:54 2013. The entire complex should be renamed 74th St/Roosevelt Av which is what the TA calls it on FasTrack posters and one of those two names is what most passengers use to refer to it, the IND & IRT levels interchangeably. Perhaps Broadway has been left out for future consideration of eliminating it (complete speculation).I think only the IND station should be renamed 74th Street/Roosevelt Avenue. It makes "74th Street" a common element of the station complex (like the "Bryant Park" element of the 5 Av/42 St-6 Av complex). |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 11:34:29 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 11:14:31 2013. Apparently. Each wheel rotation yields a distance of 34π inches, or about 8.9 feet (assuming a wheel of 34 inches in diameter), which is what's used in other cars. |
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Posted by VictorM on Wed Nov 13 11:56:10 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 11:14:31 2013. Yes. Also, the axle with the tachometer must be completely free wheeling: unpowered and unbraked. They removed the friction brake on one of the axles of the unpowered truck of an R142A "B" car and added the tachometer to that axle to make it an R188 "C" car. Because of this the R188 trains have slightly less braking power than the R142A trains. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 13:24:57 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by VictorM on Wed Nov 13 11:56:10 2013. Does completely freewheeling reduce the variation in wheel diameter, and therefore increase accuracy of distance traveled ? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 14:40:25 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 13:24:57 2013. Yup. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Nov 13 14:52:27 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Joe V on Wed Nov 13 09:09:35 2013. AFAIK, the new PATH cars do not have marker lights but the LED end signs are color coded to match the former marker light displays. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Nov 13 14:54:29 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by lance52 on Wed Nov 13 11:00:56 2013. It may be a requirement from RTO to make/play the redundant announcements. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:33:04 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. 1.(a) Yes, Queens-bound trains should announce whether the train is local or express. I guess they were trying to avoid a situation similar to after R142As were introduced on the 6. The trains would announce, "This is a Bronx-bound 6 express train" if the train would run express in The Bronx. This caused some confusion among riders whose trips on the 6 were entirely in Manhattan, and their northern endpoint was a local stop. This led to the incredibly verbose announcement, "This is a Pelham Bay Park-bound 6 train, making express stops in The Bronx," which I feel is way too time consuming. (b) Do you know what happens when people discover that a train is about to leave? The people not already on the train do all they can in an attempt to catch the train. It doesn't matter that the next one is waiting just outside the station. The train at the platform with the doors open is the one they see, and that's the one they're going to go for. Broadcasting the "Stand clear of the doors" announcement over the external speakers will amplify that problem. 2. (a) I haven't ridden the train as an express, but if it is showing (7) when it should be showing <7>, that's a mistake, and it should be corrected. (b) I'll let the image speak for itself.  (c) It's a happy accident. I personally believe that the numbered avenue stations should have the word Avenue appear in full, unless an additional name is also displayed. For this instance, it's either "5 AVENUE," or "5 AV-BRYANT PK." (d) I agree about putting Broadway (or at the very least, its common abbreviation "BWAY") at 74th Street. However, at 33rd, 40th, and 46th, several years ago, the MTA installed signs that just had the numbered street. Community pressure (with a little help from the DOT) caused the MTA to replace those with the Sunnyside street names now displayed. Frankly, I feel that the Sunnyside street names should replace the existing numbered streets beyond Sunnyside Gardens to the rest of Sunnyside, but that's for another thread. 3. I didn't notice that much dust when I rode them. 4. The R160s have interior car numbers on plates because of the knurled steel covering the interior end walls and surrounding the side windows. The first R160s didn't have this treatment when they went into service, so they too had the number stickers.  If later R188s receive the knurled steel treatment, they will, of course, need the number plates inside. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:37:04 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Randyo on Wed Nov 13 14:54:29 2013. Ooh, I hope they have the "soliciting is illegal" announcement. It would certainly be useful whenever a norteño band gets on the train. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:49:19 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Randyo on Wed Nov 13 14:52:27 2013. That's right. No marker lights on the PA5, but the end signs are color coded.
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Nov 13 17:37:52 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Broadway Buffer on Wed Nov 13 02:33:54 2013. That should have been renamed long ago. |
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Posted by merrick1 on Wed Nov 13 19:24:37 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 11:24:38 2013. How about taking down the Jackson Heights signs at 82nd Street and putting them up at 74th Street/Broadway. People coming back from Citifield remember that they changed at Jackson Heights on their way to the game and get off at the wrong stop on their way back. |
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Posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Nov 13 20:26:17 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Nov 13 07:54:55 2013. The MTA updated the manhattan announcements on R142A (6) train to reflect whether or not they were running express in the Bronx or not so there's no reason for it not to be done on the (7) line as well. |
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Posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:43:13 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Nov 13 20:26:17 2013. Agreed. And they experimented with a few items as well (remember the EXP or LCL LED lights going up/down?) before finally settling on the red LED diamonds and green LED circles, just to help people better differentiate. If anything, "sorting" at Queensboro Plaza would significantly delay the train. |
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Posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:47:33 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:33:04 2013. Now that I recall, none of the NTTs have the "TO" displayed on the interior LED signs. The 4 will simply show WOODLAWN, the 5 ESTCHSTR-DYRE (or whatever it is) and the 6 PELHAM BAY PK. Having the "TO" in front would be helpful. |
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Posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:48:22 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:47:33 2013. *IRT only. I don't really ride the B division so I don't know if the NTTs show a "TO" or not. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 20:56:37 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:48:22 2013. They do. |
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Posted by Gold_12th on Wed Nov 13 21:08:37 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:47:33 2013. on some R142/A cars do show "to", just rarely |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 21:11:24 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:47:33 2013. None, except the R188s…
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Posted by gbs on Wed Nov 13 22:08:24 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:33:04 2013. 2b:Leaving Mets-Willets Pt for Main St, the sequence of interior signs is: (7) TO FLUSHING-MAIN ST (7) THE NEXT STOP IS (7) FLUSHING My contention is that the next stop name is "Flushing-Main St", not "Flushing". Your photo captures the first display, shown after leaving every station. It's the last display I question. |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Nov 13 22:19:17 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Bill From Maspeth on Wed Nov 13 04:54:33 2013. Yep:"Thanks for submitting your question. Use this reference number for follow up: #131113-000..." |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 22:22:35 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Wed Nov 13 22:08:24 2013. If the word "TO" can fit with the name of the station, it can wit without it. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 22:22:46 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Wed Nov 13 22:08:24 2013. If the word "TO" can fit with the name of the station, it can fit without it. |
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Posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 23:32:08 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 21:11:24 2013. Hah good point. I meant pre R-188, but I'm glad to see it appear here. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 14 04:59:11 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013. I can understand some of your points, but "5 AVENUE" instead of "5 AVE"? That's being just a wee bit anal. |
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Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Nov 14 12:32:03 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Mitch45 on Thu Nov 14 04:59:11 2013. "That's being just a wee bit anal."No it's not. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Nov 14 14:58:39 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by jasonnyc on Wed Nov 13 20:47:33 2013. The external signs were reprogrammed to include it over the summer in the A Division. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Nov 14 21:15:13 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Nov 13 20:26:17 2013. Which a many times confused Manhattan 6 trains riders. The 7 doesn't have that problem since all trains make all stops in Manhattan. They should announce it while in Manhattan as well.It's a case of WABL. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Nov 15 14:16:41 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Nov 14 21:15:13 2013.  |
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Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 15 14:41:47 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:37:04 2013. How? Those engaging in activities specifically mentioned in the automated announcements- soliciting, walking between cars, holding the doors- do it anyway. An automated announcement isn't going to stop them. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri Nov 15 14:55:06 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Wado MP73 on Thu Nov 14 21:15:13 2013. Washington Beer Lovers?--Mark |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 15 16:10:22 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 15 14:41:47 2013. Not necessarily true. I once observed a group of those dangerous acrobatic groups doing their thing on the N train, and when the announcement played, they got off the train at the next stop instead of moving to the next car. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 15 16:58:18 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Mr. MTA on Wed Nov 13 20:26:17 2013. I don't think they updated the announcements so much as made it so that there were no stations considered "Manhattan". Last I remember the southbound 6 trains say "this is a Manhattan bound 6" the whole time, as if the train considered itself in the Bronx for all stops. that would make the northbound announcements the more specific Bronx-only ones.They could do the same thing for the 7, there would only be a problem at Grand Central and 5th av. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 15 17:00:08 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 15 16:10:22 2013. They may have thought the announcement was directed at them, like the conductor saw.Actually it would be neat if every car had security cameras and the conductor could switch among them; if he saw something he could target an announcement at just that car. It would go a long way. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 15 22:06:51 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Nov 15 16:58:18 2013. That might be a bug in the system. I think I remember hearing "this is a Brooklyn Bridge-bound 6 train" announcements recently. |
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Posted by snarf368 on Fri Nov 15 22:13:26 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Nov 15 22:06:51 2013. Henry R32 said "I don't think they updated the announcements so much as made it so that there were no stations considered "Manhattan". Last I remember the southbound 6 trains say "this is a Manhattan bound 6" the whole time, as if the train considered itself in the Bronx for all stops. that would make the northbound announcements the more specific Bronx-only ones."R36 #9346 said "That might be a bug in the system. I think I remember hearing "this is a Brooklyn Bridge-bound 6 train" announcements recently. " I have heard both on different car sets during recent rides. |
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Posted by Mr. MTA on Fri Nov 15 22:14:37 2013, in response to Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by snarf368 on Fri Nov 15 22:13:26 2013. Same. |
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