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Re: R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments)

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 13 16:33:04 2013, in response to R188 observations (and **sigh** disappointments), posted by gbs on Tue Nov 12 23:08:26 2013.

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(a) Yes, Queens-bound trains should announce whether the train is local or express. I guess they were trying to avoid a situation similar to after R142As were introduced on the 6. The trains would announce, "This is a Bronx-bound 6 express train" if the train would run express in The Bronx. This caused some confusion among riders whose trips on the 6 were entirely in Manhattan, and their northern endpoint was a local stop. This led to the incredibly verbose announcement, "This is a Pelham Bay Park-bound 6 train, making express stops in The Bronx," which I feel is way too time consuming.

(b)
Do you know what happens when people discover that a train is about to leave? The people not already on the train do all they can in an attempt to catch the train. It doesn't matter that the next one is waiting just outside the station. The train at the platform with the doors open is the one they see, and that's the one they're going to go for. Broadcasting the "Stand clear of the doors" announcement over the external speakers will amplify that problem.

2.
(a) I haven't ridden the train as an express, but if it is showing (7) when it should be showing <7>, that's a mistake, and it should be corrected.

(b) I'll let the image speak for itself.


(c) It's a happy accident. I personally believe that the numbered avenue stations should have the word Avenue appear in full, unless an additional name is also displayed. For this instance, it's either "5 AVENUE," or "5 AV-BRYANT PK."

(d) I agree about putting Broadway (or at the very least, its common abbreviation "BWAY") at 74th Street. However, at 33rd, 40th, and 46th, several years ago, the MTA installed signs that just had the numbered street. Community pressure (with a little help from the DOT) caused the MTA to replace those with the Sunnyside street names now displayed.

Frankly, I feel that the Sunnyside street names should replace the existing numbered streets beyond Sunnyside Gardens to the rest of Sunnyside, but that's for another thread.

3. I didn't notice that much dust when I rode them.

4. The R160s have interior car numbers on plates because of the knurled steel covering the interior end walls and surrounding the side windows. The first R160s didn't have this treatment when they went into service, so they too had the number stickers.


If later R188s receive the knurled steel treatment, they will, of course, need the number plates inside.

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