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Posted by chuchubob on Sun Oct 14 11:57:53 2012 1950 Porter 0-4-0T Saint Elizabeth Hospital #4 worked the passenger train, push-pull with four coaches.   1856 Mason 4-4-0 American BO #25 William Mason was operating light at the site of a Civil War Union Army encampment re-enactment on the route of the Museum passenger train. BO 25 was rebuilt in 1927.    
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 12:22:22 2012, in response to PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by chuchubob on Sun Oct 14 11:57:53 2012. #25 is running out of FRA flue time and will be laid up, possibly FOREVER. You got 'er just in time. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 12:41:16 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 12:22:22 2012. Probably not, the B&O Museum will just rebuild #25 again, they have the ability to do it. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 12:45:57 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 12:41:16 2012. WADLle WADLle WADLle Send cash. (It will take half a Mil) Maybe we can get Rmoney to give. CSX disowned them.
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 15:47:48 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 12:22:22 2012. Hell, I thought the flue time was already up... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 15:50:25 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 15:47:48 2012. He caught the Last Run.http://ogrforum.ogaugerr.com/displayForumTopic/content/9173459954898887 |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 16:17:44 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 15:50:25 2012. SHIT! Had I known I would have gone. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 17:19:53 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 12:45:57 2012. Rmoney would cut off support for museums like the B&O Museum. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 17:30:09 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 17:19:53 2012. Like I said. Ol'#25 ain't gonna get hot any time soon. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 18:58:52 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 17:30:09 2012. Ain't up to Government to support or restore it. Do you how & why it was restored for operation in the first place? |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:16:17 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 18:58:52 2012. I'm not saying it is. My comment about Romney was to suggest he might personally donate to the restoration. Of course he shouldn't be compelled to do so. As for the Government, they do quite a bit for preservation already. That Dan Lawrence is almost always WRONG. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 19:17:45 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 17:19:53 2012. Rmoney would cut off support for museums like the B&O Museum.Tell ya what Dan, YOU spearhead an effort to TAKE BACK the Museum from that evil Smithsonian & let us know how you make out. It would be the only way to insulate them from those eeeEEEEvil Weepubwicans so get crackin'. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 19:19:43 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:16:17 2012. Ahhhh, but do you know how & why & who funded Willy Mason's restoration? This ain't about Romney so be careful Mike 'cuz I know the story.... |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:19:46 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 19:17:45 2012. Elmer, keep AWAY from MY BUNNY RABBIT!!! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:22:35 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 19:19:43 2012. No comment here. I don''t know the story but do know of several cases where projects were funded by folks who would consider you a flaming LIBERAL. So, what was the deal on the Mason's last restoration? |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 19:42:38 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 19:17:45 2012. The B&O Museum is NOT part of the Smithsonian and NEVER has been. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:51:24 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 19:42:38 2012. They are affiliated. This affiliation seems to be a "two way street" kind of relationship. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 19:59:19 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:22:35 2012. Disney for use in a movie. As to government in general THE Museum is owned by the City of Baltimore. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 20:03:13 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 19:42:38 2012. their is a membership affiliation plan. go herehttp://www.borail.org/individual-family.aspx |
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Posted by Neil Feldman on Sun Oct 14 20:16:01 2012, in response to PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by chuchubob on Sun Oct 14 11:57:53 2012. Wow, too bad it was this weekend, and not the day after Thanksgiving! Nice shots! |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 14 20:38:24 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Oct 14 17:19:53 2012. What the heck! Museums are ***SUPPOSED*** to be self supporting.They are NOT a ward of the Federal Government! |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 20:39:01 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 14 20:38:24 2012. Thasnk you, Elias. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 14 20:42:02 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:51:24 2012. Yes, and NO.!Most museums allow members of one museum to visit. Zoos too. LION is a member of the Dakota Zoo in Bismarck. His card is good at the Staten Island Zoo, but not at the Bronx Zoo. Affiliated means nothing. ROAR |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 20:48:40 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 14 20:42:02 2012. B&O helps Smithsonian and vice versa. NO WAY do most museums want the loss of independence that comes with Government funding. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:18:35 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 19:59:19 2012. Disney for use in a movie.A Will Smith movie IIRC. The point is Willie was restored TOTALLY with private money. We as fans were fortunate to have this engine in staem as long as we did, but it is apparently over, at leat for the time being. To expect the taxpayer to perpetuate this is absurd. It is how we got into the position we now find ourselves in. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:25:40 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 19:22:35 2012. several cases where projects were funded by folks who would consider you a flaming LIBERAL.If they are paying for it out of their own pocket I could care less. Expecting the taxpayer to foot the bill is where I got the problem. Little story: When I did restoration for Reading Tech I both paid for the parts & donated my labor & skills (I am a certified instructor in cabinetmaking & millwork but do not teach). At each meeting an old caboose coal bucket was passed around the room for donations. I tossed my material receipts in. And NO, I did not claim any of those receipts on my taxes as some kind of "donation". To me THAT is the way it is done. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:30:09 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:18:35 2012. Completely false. A full FRA rehab is less than a day's "noise" in DOD spending waste. Of course, if a Mr. Ward had any sense of tradition, it would be a charitable write off for CSX. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:39:50 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:25:40 2012. there are many ways. I will be doing a couple days of volunteer solar PV installation two weeks from now (more before, more to come) If I can help to destroy our local electric company I will be blissed out. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:43:19 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 20:48:40 2012. B&O helps Smithsonian and vice versa.LINK But according to The National Park Service the Museum gets grants on a regular basis. Looking at the 2011 Annual Report a shortfall is noted. Does SI pick up the difference? |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:47:55 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:30:09 2012. A full FRA rehab is less than a day's "noise" in DOD spending waste.I KNEW you couldn't resist a shot at a branch you ain't happy with. It don't work like that...this is about a steam engine being restored with taxpayer money, which I think is not the taxpayer's gig. Leave the rest of it out & focus on that. If you don't like DOD that is for another forum. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:50:14 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Oct 14 20:38:24 2012. um, no. First off "charitable deductions" reduce IRS receipts. Second 501c3s are generally exempt from property taxes in many instances. Thus they ARE wards of several levels of government. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:50:40 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:39:50 2012. If I can help to destroy our local electric company I will be blissed out.Then when your solar gig leaves you in the dark & you got no power 'cuz the eeeeEEEEEvil electric company has been "destroyed" don't come crying to anyone. It is what you asked for & you got it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 14 22:56:40 2012, in response to PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by chuchubob on Sun Oct 14 11:57:53 2012. Nice shots. That first locomotive certainly looks odd. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:58:03 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:47:55 2012. You, sir, brought up the general budget mess in an oblique way. My parents worked for those crooks so I grew up with regular tales of waste back in Ike's time. It has only gotten worse. In any event, the point is that the sum of money is tiny. As a taxpayer, I have as much (and no more) right than you to an opinion as to how our taxes should be spent. I favor trains/transit. Your mileage may vary. |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:59:20 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Sun Oct 14 22:50:40 2012. You have my word, I shall not. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 14 23:04:12 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by RockParkMan on Sun Oct 14 17:30:09 2012. Without intending to make dan lawrence look ridiculous again, I'm wondering what funding dan is suggesting that Mitt Romney would cut off. According to the 2011 Annual Report of the B&O RR Museum, they receive money from the state of Maryland but no money from the federal government. In addition, the last time they received federal money was from the Bush Administration in 2003, in the form of a $500,000 grant, to repair the collapsed roof. So I realize that it once again goes without saying but |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 14 23:07:05 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:58:03 2012. Seconded on all counts. Now the military industrial complex is eating up the antivirus and computer security "industry" and now we're getting pwned every which way INCLUDING loose. :( |
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Posted by VictorM on Sun Oct 14 23:58:25 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 14 22:56:40 2012. It's a "fireless cooker". It doesn't burn fuel but stores steam supplied from an external source such as a power plant. That's why it has such a large insulated boiler. Consequently it can travel only a short distance from the source of steam. It was used for switching operations. |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Mon Oct 15 01:27:42 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by VictorM on Sun Oct 14 23:58:25 2012. Uhhhhh no it isn't.It's a conventional steam locomotive with saddle tanks. |
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Posted by VictorM on Mon Oct 15 01:50:08 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by NJCL2308 on Mon Oct 15 01:27:42 2012. Thanks for the correction. Where is the fuel (I assume coal) stored? |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Oct 15 07:26:07 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by VictorM on Mon Oct 15 01:50:08 2012. The coal is stored in the tall, narrow rectangular bunker between the cab and the coach. It is filled by hand by dumping the coal from the orange buckets into the bunker. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Mon Oct 15 07:26:07 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: steam weekend at B&O Museum, posted by VictorM on Mon Oct 15 01:50:08 2012. The coal is stored in the tall, narrow rectangular bunker between the cab and the coach. It is filled by hand by dumping the coal from the orange buckets into the bunker. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 15 08:26:13 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Train Dude on Sun Oct 14 23:04:12 2012. bump |
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Posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 15 08:39:25 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sun Oct 14 22:58:03 2012. You, sir, brought up the general budget mess in an oblique way.Exactly! It is a general mess. Ain't juse Deefense. |
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Posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 15 08:42:38 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Oct 14 23:07:05 2012. Now the military industrial complex is eating up the antivirus and computer security "industry" and now we're getting pwned every which way INCLUDING loose.Any comments on billions wasted on Solyndra? But I'm getting off topic. I'm done :o) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Oct 15 13:05:13 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 15 08:42:38 2012. it was a single billion, less than one Osprey. (oxygen deprivation device) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Mon Oct 15 13:14:17 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 15 08:39:25 2012. As many others including Robert Reich have pointed out the so-called SS/Medicare funding crisis is soluble by raising the ceiling on income subject to FICA. Problem solved. As to most of the rest of the deficit, eliminatibng the money pit operations in Iraq and Afghanistan all of which were "off budget" but ballooned the deficit, will go a long way. Increasing the base tax rate on the overly rich will clean up the rest along with going after the profits hidden off shore by treasonous corporations. Politically difficult mathematically simple. In the grand scheme of things, spending on infrastructure and historic preservation/civic improvement is a far better allocation of funds. |
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Posted by RockParkMan on Mon Oct 15 15:19:41 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by kp5308 on Mon Oct 15 08:39:25 2012. Actually, DoD is the source of much federal subsidy for rail preservation. Military surplus Construction equipment and locomotives are regularly donated to rail museums. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 15 18:12:34 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 15 08:26:13 2012. bump dan lawrence |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Mon Oct 15 18:25:50 2012, in response to Re: PHOTOS: TURTLE 5 at B&O Museum, posted by Train Dude on Mon Oct 15 18:12:34 2012. I'm not answering you, so stop this NOW!!! |
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