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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 15:12:03 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 15:07:35 2012. Not the IRT part. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 12 15:40:41 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 14:11:01 2012. When I first rode the Franklin in 1959, The tail switch N/O PPk was not yet in service and Franklin shuttles had to turn on the exp tracks S/O PPk station which is why rush hour Fkln service ran through to Stl so as not to interfere with Brighton expresses.Not in 1959 they didn't. |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Thu Jan 12 15:49:38 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 13:54:45 2012. I operated a train of Q`S while I was a transit cop in `69.The m/m told me to take the controls which I did.what an uncomfortable feeling that was,I didn`t know my ass from a hole in the ground about running a train,much less a set of Q`S.now I would say"step aside sonny & I,ll show you how a REAL MAN operates"lol |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Thu Jan 12 16:11:52 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 14:41:32 2012. "Spite" me thinks was not a factor in 74th st being a local sta on the Flushing Line. Let me stick my neck out here & guess that when the Flushing line came thru Jackson Heights back in 1916-1917, the plans for an Independent subway to be tunneled thru Broadway intersecting with Roosevelt Ave were yet to be concieved.Thus, the IRT engineers would have no incentive to make 74th St an express stop. Strictly speculation here. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:20:44 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 15:12:03 2012. OK, but technically the IRT station at 74 St is not referred to as "Jackson Heights" which the IND station is. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:24:07 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 12 14:33:54 2012. Franklin was left as a local stop because ultimately, the next stop, Nostrand was made the express stop with provision for a transfer to the proposed but seldom talked about Bedford Av subway. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 16:26:08 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:20:44 2012. I was casually referring to the whole complex, not "technically". |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:27:07 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 12 15:40:41 2012. That might have been the first year that the tail switch was put in and since I didn't frequent the Fkln Shtl that much then, I really didn't pay too much attention. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 16:27:18 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Thu Jan 12 16:11:52 2012. Broadway is a major street, but it might not have been back then, and that makes sense. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:28:35 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 16:26:08 2012. But the Flushing Line platform doesn't bear the name "Jackson Heights," however the station at 82 St does. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 16:32:38 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:28:35 2012. You're right, I guess 74th Street would be more appropriate when referring to the whole complex. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 12 16:40:24 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 14:17:27 2012. I was on that one too. Again, coaxing people to get on was tough. |
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Posted by BrightonExpBob on Thu Jan 12 16:52:54 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 12 06:26:29 2012. Dont remember the Locals running in the 50s to Franklin. The express ran 6 days a week Mon-Sat. at least thru Dec 58 when I moved from Brooklyn. First to Times Sq, later to 57th then eventually to Astoria. When the connection to the IND was opened in 55 or 56 the 1st line to use it was the Brighton Local. On Saturdays the Express Terminated at 57th and the Local Ran to Astoria. On Sundays and after 9.00PM the Local ran Express in Manhatten via Bridge and local in Brooklyn. |
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Posted by BrightonExpBob on Thu Jan 12 16:55:55 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 16:27:07 2012. The switch was put in before 1958, because it was there before I left Brooklyn which was a week before Xmas 1958 |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 12 17:04:37 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Thu Jan 12 13:47:55 2012. I should have been more clear. It was the only place you walked down from an el station to a subway station to transfer from a subway to an el. Always wondered why it was built with the Culver on the lower level. |
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Posted by Michael Wares on Thu Jan 12 17:14:26 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 11 15:32:12 2012. First trans-Atlantic round trip flight. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 18:03:43 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Wed Jan 11 19:58:21 2012. Has the right of way for the second track actually been sold off anywhere, possibly even built on? Or does the MTA (or NY City) still own it? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 18:24:38 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 14:40:28 2012. They can operate between Court Square and Coney via Culver if they want to (and have done so during several GOs). So there really wouldn't be much point. If you really want to ride from Franklin to Court Square, take the C (or late-night A) the three stops to Hoyt-Schermerhorn. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 18:28:33 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 18:24:38 2012. Not via the Franklin, and that wouldn't be as direct and useful IMO. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 12 18:58:31 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jan 12 17:04:37 2012. Always wondered why it was built with the Culver on the lower level.Because the West End had/has less space for the ramp to its elevated than the Culver to its, so the grade was the main consideration. |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jan 12 19:04:20 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by BrightonExpBob on Thu Jan 12 16:55:55 2012. The switch was not there when I started riding in the last months of 1956. It was put in either late in 1957 or early '58. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 20:55:01 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by zac on Thu Jan 12 14:15:23 2012. Yeah, they are running shuttle buses between Prospect Park and Atlantic Ave., which would be totally unnecessary if the Franklin Ave. line could handle full-length trains, or anything close to it. The buses can be avoided by using the Franklin Shuttle to Botanic Garden and the IRT to Atlantic Ave., but they don't directly say that on the service advisory because trying to fit everyone from a 10-car Q train onto a two-car shuttle train is not likely to work well. I wonder if they will increase the frequency of the shuttle train runs during that time, also how the capacity of the shuttle buses and shuttle trains compare. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 20:56:27 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 20:55:01 2012. How would they increase the frequency of the shuttle? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 21:10:06 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 20:56:27 2012. Hmm, I guess they really can't. How much time do the shuttle trains spend sitting at the terminals? If it is significant, it could possibly be reduced, but that would be about it. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 00:14:55 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 13:43:35 2012. The 3rd Ave line and the Myrtle line were complete lines. The Culver was just two stations. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 00:21:05 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu Jan 12 14:41:32 2012. The Jackson Heights/74th station complex is the other way around....the IRT was there FIRST, and the IND made the express station downstairs. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jan 13 06:28:00 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 18:03:43 2012. No, they still have the right-of-way, but the line was reconstructed in such a way that you would have to tear up the current track to rebuild as two tracks; for example, the current track between stations is more centered on the entire right-of-way. Likewise, the stations encroach on the trackbed of where a second track would go. |
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Posted by SLRT on Fri Jan 13 11:08:13 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 00:14:55 2012. Culver shuttle was three stations and it was a connection between lines.Also, Culver could have been a useful connection and an alternate emergency routing. The steelwork was built for this but never used. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 13 12:04:10 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Fri Jan 13 11:08:13 2012. It could have been useful if the MTA were ever planning on building some sort of Church Avenue rail line in year 3052. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 13 14:39:07 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Dyre Dan on Thu Jan 12 21:10:06 2012. That was the point was trying to make in my posts on the subject. If the Fkln Shtl had been built as an actual branch of the mainline as it was prior to 1923, full length Brighton trains could go all the way the Fkln/Fltn and passengers would have the opportunity to either change for the IRT at Botanic Gdns or the IND at Fkln. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jan 13 15:32:10 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Fisk ave Jim on Thu Jan 12 16:11:52 2012. I believe the City had the final say on what would be built, where it would be built, and if it would be express or local! After all, they did pay for it, right? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jan 13 15:39:28 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Elkeeper on Fri Jan 13 15:32:10 2012. I'm not sure who would have had the final say. Even if the city paid for it, I'm sure the PSC who oversaw subway and el construction at the time consulted with the companies who would operate over the lines as to where the station would be and which would be local and express. According to the New Subways for NY publication, on the BRT/BMT Bway Subway in Manhattan, 49 St was supposed to be an express station and 57 St was supposed to be a local station but when the line was finally constructed, it was the opposite. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 16:26:02 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Fri Jan 13 11:08:13 2012. 9th Ave is overlapped with the existing 9th Ave station, only two stations were lost. While I don't agree with it's abandonment, and yes, it is a connection that no longer exists (it was mainline just like the Franklin at one time actually), it's hardly the same sort of loss that the 3rd Ave or Myrtle lines were. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 16:31:32 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Fri Jan 13 12:04:10 2012. Yeah, exactly. And the only thing really lost with the Culver was service at the two stations that are now gone. While the track connection would have been nice if retained, in actuality, people from the what is now the F line can transfer at 4th Ave and 9th anyway if they really wanted the Broadway Line.Again, I am not saying it's good it's gone, just that it's hardly really a major loss. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 13 16:33:50 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 16:31:32 2012. They can transfer at Jay st. The transfer at 4/9 sucks. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 17:40:08 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 13 16:33:50 2012. That's right! I keep forgetting that transfer (although of course that didn't exist for the time from the 1980's till recently when Jay St/Lawrence was completed. I agree about the crappy transfer at 4th.This said, the Culver has even less use now. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jan 13 18:59:46 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 17:40:08 2012. But the Culver Shuttle wasn't even a replacement for that transfer. The West End line since 1967 has been served by a Sixth Avenue train, so it's not a very useful transfer between two Sixth Avenue trains. If it went to 36th then it would have been a useful replacement for 4th/9th but now it wouldn't have even had that. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 14 06:32:57 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by MainR3664 on Thu Jan 12 13:06:09 2012. Perhaps that is something that can be looked at down the road in a second rebuild of the line that restores the line to two tracks all the way through with as suggested elsewhere a 600' terminal at Franklin Avenue, even perhaps with a new station there that can allow for eventual through service, possibly extended to either a connection with the Broadway Brooklyn line or the remaining part of the Myrtle Avenue El that would in that scenario include rebuilding the upper level of Myrtle Avenue as well as Metropolitan Avenue and the other stations on that line to handle 600' trains and 75' cars (75' cars in this scenario would only be able to use such tracks to/from an extended Franklin Avenue Shuttle line). |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 14 06:44:09 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by randyo on Fri Jan 13 14:39:07 2012. And that is something that needs to potentially be looked at in a second rebuild of the shuttle line that as I would do it have all stations be 600' island platforms on the line, with the Franklin avenue stop converted to where it can be a eventual through station for a new extension to a possible connection with the remaining part of the Myrtle Avenue El that would in turn include rebuilding the upper level of the Myrtle Avenue (J)/(M)/(Z) station and the stations along that part of the line to fit both 600' platforms and handle 75' cars (with 75' cars on that part of the Eastern Division restricted to ONLY the rebuilt portion of the remaining Myrtle El that would be designed to specifically handle 75' cars in addition to the normal 60' cars). |
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Posted by SLRT on Sat Jan 14 07:51:05 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jan 13 16:26:02 2012. That the loss was not as bad as something else doesn't mean it was useless. When I lived over that way, Ditmas Avenue was my station and I regularly took the shuttle, especially from work. As was pointed out, the shuttle wasn't always a shuttle, and the TA made it increasingly difficult to use. |
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Posted by BrightonExpBob on Sat Jan 14 11:41:28 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle Rolling Stock Question, posted by SLRT on Fri Jan 13 11:08:13 2012. When the Culver was a Main Line prior to 1954 it was a connection to Nassau Street via Tunnel. via Local.During Rush hours. They ran Express In Peak Hours via The Loop on 4th Ave. Terminated at Kings Highway due to shortage of cars, and ran shuttle trains to Stillwell. |
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Posted by italianstallion on Sat Jan 14 15:14:06 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle/Idea for extension to Myrtle Avenue El, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 14 06:44:09 2012. Service pattern? Metro. Ave. to Coney Island? Why? |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 14 17:55:42 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle/Idea for extension to Myrtle Avenue El, posted by italianstallion on Sat Jan 14 15:14:06 2012. The idea would be this:The (B) and (Q) would reverse weekday roles on the Brighton Line, with the (Q) becoming a full-time 24/7 express line to Brighton Beach while the (B) on weekdays is the local to Coney Island. The new line (which I would designate as a "Black V" train) would operate from Metropolitan Avenue-Coney Island as a 24/7 replacement for the Franklin Avenue shuttle and as a second Brooklyn local when the (B) is running and the sole local when the (B) is not. This would also give Coney Island and Brighton riders looking for lower Manhattan alternatives to the having to switch to/from the (Q), in the case of the 2/3/4/5 at Botanic Garden and the C (A overnights) at Franklin Avenue without having to switch to the current shuttle at Prospect Park. This line would also eliminate the need for the current (M) overnight/weekend shuttle since it would be a 24/7 line operating the entire shuttle route of the (M). This line to me would be very popular on weekends with people looking for Coney Island in particular while also giving Brighton riders express service at all times. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Jan 14 18:32:10 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle/Idea for extension to Myrtle Avenue El, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 14 17:55:42 2012. This line to me would be very popular on weekends with people looking for Coney IslandYeah, all 5 of them. |
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Posted by Handbrake on Sat Jan 14 23:44:42 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle/Idea for extension to Myrtle Avenue El, posted by Wallyhorse on Sat Jan 14 17:55:42 2012. Establishing a through route for the Franklin Line to a northern terminal is a novel idea.However to establish weekend express train service on the Brighton Line is a waste of limited resources, regardless of what could happen to the Franklin Line, or to A1 & A2 tracks in the distant future. Operating express trains on weekends is not worth the added cost, or the waiting time to make multiple train connections. It's bad enough to have to wait for a local train in the winter, and during Rush Hour. It will not be any better on a weekend operating schedule. As a longtime (40 years) user of the the Brighton Line, I find that it works very well with the present scheduling arraignments that are in place. It took NYCT quite some time to figure out an operating mode for Brighton riders that works, and I would rather not fix something that's not broken. I would rather ride a crowded subway train on weekends, than sparsely loaded trains to better save money, keep rapid transit operating costs low, and sustain MTA funding to maintain the lines existing infrastructure. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Jan 15 16:49:16 2012, in response to Re: Franklin Avenue Shuttle/Idea for extension to Myrtle Avenue El, posted by Handbrake on Sat Jan 14 23:44:42 2012. As I would do this, this new line would also have a connection to the Broadway-Brooklyn line so that when there is a G.O. similar to this one on the (Q), the (Q, albeit as a 300' train of five 60' cars unless on future orders they go back to single or dual cars to allow for more flexibility) would be able to go via the new line and access the Broadway-Brooklyn line at Myrtle and then run via the (M) to 57th/6th as the (M) currently does on weekends when the (L) is out in Manhattan. Likewise, this also would allow for a future full-time connection to the Brighton Line from the Broadway-Brooklyn line should such warrant. |
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