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Re: LIRR East Side Access

Posted by ALSTOM R160A on Tue May 23 01:38:43 2006, in response to Re: LIRR East Side Access, posted by J trainloco on Tue May 23 01:33:48 2006.

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In another post, I provided my basic analysis of the East River tunnels. Until someone provides facts, I will not merely accept that the East River tunnels are 'at capacity'. As such: You don't need a new tunnel under the east River. If someone can Prove otherwise, I will retract my statements.

Without that tunnel from queens and under the east River, the project would be substantially cheaper.


First off, let's take a look at this post:
http://subchat.com/read.asp?Id=256799

Look, none of us here can give you concrete evidence that they are at capacity. Most here do not have access to Penn Station tunnel slots and even if we did we sure as hell wouldn't divulge all that info to the public as it isn't exactly public information. But you can pretty much see that with all the Amtrak, LIRR, NJT trains that use the tunnel in passenger service, as well as all the deadheads that need the tunnels, especially during the peak hours, it's pretty damn close to capacity. And we avoid having to deal with Amtrak's time slots with ESA since we don't have to use Amtrak's tunnels, nor modify old Amtrak tunnels that would require significant structural engineering. It's not so easy to modify something so old without risks, and I doubt Amtrak is willing to take them, especially since it doesn't benefit them at all.


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