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Re: N to 96/2

Posted by GojiMet86 on Fri Jan 6 13:03:31 2017, in response to Re: N to 96/2, posted by Michael549 on Fri Jan 6 11:29:28 2017.

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There have been plenty of times when #2 trains have been sent down Lexington Avenue or #5 trains sent down the westside line - where even though both trains will be ending up at the same Brooklyn College terminal - folks on the platforms won't board those trains! Or vice-versa on such trains leaving Brooklyn. There are plenty of other examples to cite.

And what happens to the people who got on the (5) train in the Bronx find out it is heading down the West Side? Or when the (2) they board at Gun Hill Road is heading down Lexington? It is a greater inconvenience for them. It'll just be "Stupid MTA again". Those waiting on the Lexington line, as YOU said, won't board. To them, that (2) train is odd. They'll just wait for the next (4) or (5), even if it has the same stops. Same with the (Q) that winds up on the Sea Beach.

It is better to have people not board a train that definitely does NOT go where they WANT, than it is to have people assume the train is heading to the regular correct terminal when it is in fact not going there.




The issue with the Uptown Q's on the N-line that turn into downtown N's is that the MTA is being dis-honest with the riders.
This is a case where ON PURPOSE the MTA is tricking the riders. That is the dis-honesty with this scheme.
You can talk all you want about "non-existent programs on the FIND system" - but that is just a cover for bad decision making.
Dishonesty for a "good reason" is usually never a good idea.


Regular people do not and never will give two shits about a train that is a (Q)-but-really-a-(N)-with-(N)-crews. That is something only buffs worry and debate about.

What is indeed guaranteed to happen to a good number of riders on this train if, and when, the MTA introduces the (N) to 96th Street program is that they won't pay attention to the 96th Street part. They will just see (N) and make their minds on the spot. Then they'll get that nasty surprise at 57th Street when they find out their train is not going to Astoria. Then they have to get off, or worse, some will stay. THEN those will get mad and ask why the MTA lied and was being dishonest about the (N). Then they will think the MTA is tricking them. No amount of FIND signs that explicitly said the (N) was going to 96th Street will change that. Whether by having these trains as (Q), they won't board it, period. No worries about getting OFF at the WRONG stop.





When I get on the train at 86th Street-Fourth Avenue - I do not expect to see F-trains! You can say all want that "It's for my own good, because in Queens ..."

And in that same manner, people do not expect the (N) to go to 96th Street. People don't expect a (Q) to show up at Bay Parkway either, but at least they will know that it is supposed to be a Second Avenue train. No matter what happens, FIND system updates and all, it will be a greater inconvenience for people when they learn their (N) is going to 96th Street, not Ditmars.

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