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Re: N to 96/2

Posted by Michael549 on Wed Jan 11 00:56:19 2017, in response to Re: N to 96/2, posted by #4 Sea Beach Fred on Tue Jan 10 23:17:48 2017.

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Without intending to prolong this discussion.

No, this is not a joke.

While MOST N-trains from Brooklyn from both to and from Astoria - 24/7/365 there are about 7 rush hour N-trains that until the 2017 New Year began that either start or end their runs at the 57th Street/Seventh Avenue station (the one-time full-time terminal of the N-train prior to the mid-1970's.)

The MTA planned to extend the Q-train to the new 96th Street/Second Avenue station along the brand new Second Avenue subway project. New FIND computer announcement programs were created for Q-trains using the usual Brighton line and Broadway Express.

For what ever reason, an additional Q-train via Sea Beach to 96th Street/Second Avenue program was created. In addition, an N-train program leaving 96th Street/Second Avenue to Coney Island was also created. However an N-train train program leaving Coney Island headed to 96th Street/Second Avenue was NOT created - for whatever reason.

These are about rush 7 trains that leave Coney Island as basic N-trains uptown, and return to Coney Island as basic N-trains. The 57th Street/Seventh Avenue station which used its express tracks to terminate and relay trains - has now become a "through" station - since it is the express tracks that lead directly to/from the new Second Avenue line. Trains that did terminate or originate there are now sent to/from the 96th Street/Second Avenue station.

The debate has been what to call these 7 particular "N" trains.

One Side: Folks holding this view promote the idea that these trains should be called Q-trains via Sea Beach because there is a FIND computer program for the train announcements. They believe that the riders will not be confused by trains labeled "Q" making usual N-train stops in Brooklyn and Manhattan, and then heading to 96th Street/Second Avenue. Upon reaching the last stop these trains can then be labeled "N" for the return journey to Coney Island. They contend that it is "good for the riders" if these trains are mis-labeled in this way.

The Other Side: Folks holding his view believe that these trains are "N" trains and should have N-train signage both to and from Manhattan. That plenty of subway routes have two terminals and that the riders can tell the difference between the N-trains to get where they are going. In effect these trains are no more different than before the New Year started - they have N-train crews, serve N-train stations, etc. It is a kind of truth in labeling.

Another side: Considers the whole debate as having gone on for too long, that there are "bigger stuff" to argue about, or that the MTA will do what ever it wants.

That's the debate.
Mike


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