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Re: How 3rd Rail Running Commuter Rail Could Have Avoided / Ameliorated Fiery Crash

Posted by j trainloco on Sun Feb 15 10:03:27 2015, in response to Re: How 3rd Rail Running Commuter Rail Could Have Avoided / Ameliorated Fiery Crash, posted by Joe V on Sun Feb 15 07:53:58 2015.

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Further disadvantages of Dual-modes:

1) None are available. Super Steel is dead. Genesis are no longer produced, whereas 3rd rail MU's are easily available


Well, that's not completely true. After all, the ALP-45DP wasn't being produced by anyone either, until someone requested that it be made. I'm sure someone will bid on an RFP to replace the current DMs when the time comes. That said, it will likely cost a lot more on a per unit basis to develop a new dual mode than it will to purchase new EMUs.

It will be interesting to see what the future of dual modes will be, especially considering new developments like this. We might see diesel locomotives that make their 'last mile' on battery power, eliminating the gapping issue that requires LIRR to put dual mode locomotives on both ends of their trains to Penn. Or, we might see EMUs that extend into diesel territory with battery power. It's an exciting development.


Unlike all other diesel lines on MN and LIRR, Poughkeepsie ridership quadrupled because it started form virtually NOTHING - 2 car RDC's shuttles every 2 hours that could barely make the trip.

The Danbury line gets the same 3 thru trains it had 40 years ago. People also drive to the Upper Harlem Line to catch the MU's.


I think this is a case of ridership following the service. Ridership would obviously climb on some of these diesel lines if there were more service.


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