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Posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 18:27:55 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:01:34 2011. What's funny is that ChrisR16 is the premiere "Republican" of Subchat and when he wanted to win an argument against me, he played the race card against me by bringing race into the abortion argument. So how is ChrisR16 different from all the libs who play the race card all the time? |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 23 18:58:24 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 16:58:17 2011. In fifty years, when population growth is challenging us to find ways to better distribute our natural resources to keep up with demand, the Republicans will have instituted active euthanasia programs to try to reduce the "burden" on those they consider fit to live. "social Darwinism" will be the order of the day, and people will be brainwashed into willingly participating in the program. I can see the advertisements already:The New York City Department Of Health And Mental Hygeine Unprecedented Population Growth Creates Critical Resource Shortages In NYC Why suffer in misery and hunger? If you meet the citeria lisyted below, you can qualify for NYC's Graceful Exit program! Why not consider... Active Euthanasia? If you are... Unemployed Over 40, Single, and Childless Incurably Ill Incarcerated For More Than One Year A Member Of a Socially Unacceptable Group* You may be eligible for Free Euthanization at one of our conveniently located death clinics in all five boroughs. We offer FREE burial or cremation, according to your wishes and religious beliefs, and survivor services are available. With ever-worsening difficulties created by the scarcity of natural and public resources such as food, water, and shelter, shouldn't you make room for those who would benefit the most by allocation of these resources? Support your city...call a NYC Euthanasia Worker today, and learn more about how you can do YOUR part to rescue the future by making a Graceful Exit. *"Socially Unacceptable Groups" are defined by NYC Local Law 231-22 of March, 2063, and include persons of "unemployable" ethnic or racial groups as mandated in Republican Bill HR-2072, now pending before Congress. Think Republicans couldn't do something like this if things look bad enough? Consider the Draconian immigration laws in places like Alabama and Arizona... |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Wed Nov 23 19:35:06 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 18:19:04 2011. The rare one is the DAT, or digital audio tape recorder; I remember seeing them new in Radio Shack in the very early 90s, and I wonder how they held up.)DAT another idea that went bust like 4 channel stereo ! Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 23 19:40:39 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 11:22:05 2011. How is he a communist? |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 19:48:35 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:05:31 2011. OK. But it's a pretty common position. How many people, other than LuchAAA, actually like to see lots of abortions performed? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 19:56:07 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 09:50:57 2011. Bullshit, there are little similarities to Catholics.Gambling? LOL, tell that to all the gambling they used to have at church bazaars. The nuns would even bring us kids there during the day. And they had card games at night too at bazaar. Alcohol abstinence? LOL, yeah right. Never heard them complain about porn either. The only real similarity is the position on Abortion. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 19:57:18 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 10:35:46 2011. Exactly. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:01:24 2011, in response to Its a Church (Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Nov 23 10:26:37 2011. LOL, yeah, it's not like they are trying to hide anything "Salvation" is right in their name. You either donate, or you don't. Leftists make such a big deal out of everything. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:04:19 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 12:04:07 2011. I bought a bunch of pint beer glasses there once with different beer names on them. Judging by the blog post in the link, I am surprised they didn't smash them on the ground.... :) |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Nov 23 20:13:45 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:04:19 2011. They probably took your license plate number down so they could send you some literature :)your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:15:33 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:55:09 2011. I totally agree with that stance, but some people scream about that position. I totally agree. I am for women's right to choose, even though I don't "like" the idea of abortion. I have no right to try and make people agree with me, nor do I think the government should be involved in such a matter, so am pro choice. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:17:02 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 23 18:58:24 2011. Your post is impossible to read. Perhaps I will try if it's in readable text that fits on a normal computer screen. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:17:44 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 17:09:44 2011. I actually feel the same way. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:18:34 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 19:56:07 2011. Never heard them complain about porn either.Your ignorance of their official position is not proff that they don't have one. The Catholic Church also doesn't approve of sex outside marriage or gay sex. Big parts of the article that you ignored in your rebuttal of the Salvation Army being similar to the Catholic Church. There are almost certainly more moral similarities than differences. They aren't identical, but neither are there "little similarities to Catholics". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:19:17 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:01:34 2011. I am against it. But that is MY opinion, and I have no right to impose that on other people, who also have a right to their own opinion on the matter. I am against it in so much that I don't like when it happens, but I also don't feel there should be government restriction on it in the early stages of pregnancy, as it's up for debate when life begins. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 20:20:23 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Nov 23 18:27:55 2011. What's funny is that ChrisR16 is the premiere "Republican" of SubchatI thought he said he wasn't a Republican? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:20:36 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 19:48:35 2011. I think your position is completely reasonable. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:24:05 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:18:34 2011. What? I am very knowledgeable of the Catholic Church's "official position". I went to Catholic school till senior in high school.I didn't "ignore", parts in my "rebuttal", I was responding to SMAZ's post which stated they were just about identical, and they aren't. While every religion will have some things in common, many have more that make them different. |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:29:04 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:19:17 2011. IOW you are completely pro-choice for first trimester pregnancy? |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:29:51 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 19:48:35 2011. Yes, pro-choice is a common position. Isn't that common knowledge? |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:39:47 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:24:05 2011. If you are very knowledgeable how can you imply that the Catholic Church might somehow condone pornography? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed Nov 23 20:42:47 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 23 07:51:35 2011. Idea's yes, but at least they do not force them upon us like some other religuious organizations and sects.or Repukes for that matter...] |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:34:09 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 19:56:07 2011. Never heard them complain about porn either.You're kidding right? |
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Re: Whye Yuo Shuddent Donéat tu tha Salvashun Armey—Evar |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 22:37:53 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:34:09 2011. Guess he has never been denied Communion . . . ? The RCC's pretty clear about their stance on pornography. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:49:01 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by AlM on Wed Nov 23 10:35:46 2011. And except for gambling.yes. Probably also divorce. Probably also birth control. The article mentions neither. "Probably" means nothing. And certainly the various doctrinal differences between Protestant and Catholic theology like transubstantiation. The article doesn't mention theological questions. Only a moral code of how to live one's life. Also, the Catholic Church strongly disapproves of pornography, as does every religion. but I've never heard of them opposing the legality of at least soft core porn. The Catholic Church knows how to pick its public battles. Publicly coming out strongly against soft-core would make them a laughingstock. Nowhere in the article does it say that the SA is lobbying to make drinking, gambling or porn illegal anymore than the RCC is. The only place where the Catholic Church pushes to make the law agree with its position is on abortion Because they consider abortion, stem cell research and the death penalty matters of life and death and so do a huge number of people here and abroad, meaning that heavy political pressure on those issues makes a difference. (e.g., they don't oppose the sale of condoms). Yes they do. The just know that their is nothing they can do about it. In addition to all this, the SA's position of economic issues are straight out of long-standing and reafffirmed papal encyclicals. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:50:36 2011, in response to Re: Whye Yuo Shuddent Donéat tu tha Salvashun Armey—Evar, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 22:37:53 2011. Exactly. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:52:05 2011, in response to Re: Its a Church (Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:01:24 2011. Dand is no leftist.he's a Ron Paul and Ayn Rand loving anarchist. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:59:36 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 20:15:33 2011. I am for women's right to choose,You are a moral relativist who condones genocide and mass murder. At least LuchAAA's and the other Chris's position are morally and intellectually defensible. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:00:06 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:39:47 2011. I didn't say "condone", I meant they haven't advocated for it's banning. It's the same with birth control like Condoms. They don't condone it's use, but they aren't vocal about "banning" it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 23:01:42 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:00:06 2011. You should have lived in Ireland in the 1970s, when they would raid clinics with the name "Family Planning" on them just for carrying condoms. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:03:49 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 20:29:04 2011. I never said otherwise. I "don't like" abortion, and in my opinion (and yes, that's an opinion) life starts at conception. But I understand, that that opinion is debatable, and that other people may believe differently. And I have no right to impose my views on others, nor do I feel the government should be. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:05:40 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 23:01:42 2011. That was Ireland. This is the US. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:05:59 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 22:59:36 2011. LOL. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:06:57 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Easy on Wed Nov 23 18:01:34 2011. I have said here many times that it will be a great day in human progress when surgical abortions will be looked back upon by future generations with the same horror as other past barbaric practices like "leech therapy" or lobotomies. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:07:35 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:05:59 2011. ...and please spare me your high horse rhetoric. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:10:12 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:03:49 2011. But I understand, that that opinion is debatable, and that other people may believe differently.That life begins at conception is not debatable. It's about as debatable as the shape of Planet Earth. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:17:58 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:07:35 2011. ...and please spare me your high horse rhetoric.
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:20:29 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Nov 23 23:01:42 2011. You should have lived in Ireland in the 1970s, when they would raid clinics with the name "Family Planning" on them just for carrying condoms.That's correct. Anywhere where they think they had the political muscle to impose their religious beliefs they wouldn't hesitate to do so. Same in Franco's Spain. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:22:05 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Nov 23 23:05:40 2011. That was Ireland. This is the US.I didn't realize that official Catholic doctrine is different in the US than in Eire. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 23 23:22:53 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 16:30:46 2011. I CANT STAND FOR PEOPLE TELLING WHAT TO DO.I DO WHAT I WANT..RIGHT OR WRONG..IF I MAKE A MISTAKE..THEN ITS UP TO ME TO LEARN FOR IT AND NOT DO IT AGAIN..AND KEEP YOUR HANDS OUT OF MY WALLET! |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 00:01:56 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 23 17:04:27 2011. (to you, that means those nasty brown people who live in the hood).LOL @ you for telling me what I mean. Also, how funny of you, the man who complains about liberals here every single day, to play the race card to win an argument. You brought up race. That's a liberal, end the argument tactic. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 00:02:49 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Nov 23 18:58:24 2011. what the hell are you talking about? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 24 06:32:50 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:22:05 2011. It's not. But it's definitely dealt with differently. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 24 06:35:29 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by SMAZ on Wed Nov 23 23:10:12 2011. There are many that would disagree with you, and that it's not a human being. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 24 06:36:34 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by Edwards! on Wed Nov 23 23:22:53 2011. Then don't donate to them. Simple. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 24 06:40:45 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 00:02:49 2011. God only knows. You were even able to attempt to read that post? I stopped reading as soon as it became an effort to try and read it. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 24 08:41:03 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 00:02:49 2011. In fifty years, there will be approximately eight billion people living on Planet Earth. I can see the GOP being among the first to advocate frighteningly Draconian solutions to the problem of "too many people, not enough resources", like active public euthanasia, rather than a well-thought-out (but more expensive) means of dealing with the problem.Think it can't happen? Look at what the GOP is doing now with "illegal-immigrant" laws in states like Arizona and Alabama. Instead of finding reasonable solutions (work-to-citizenship programs, tempoary work visa), they went straight to "make it impossible for 'illegals' to live here doing work no American will do"...think the farmers in Alabama are doing better now...or worse? |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 10:02:17 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by JayZeeBMT on Thu Nov 24 08:41:03 2011. lol |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 10:06:46 2011, in response to Re: Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 24 06:40:45 2011. That's not the craziest post in the thread.ChrisR16 played the race card against me just like liberals do. That's classic. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 24 17:51:06 2011, in response to Why You Shouldn't Donate to the Salvation Army—Ever, posted by danD124 on Wed Nov 23 07:38:26 2011. LOL @ you danD124, seeing the Salvation Army promo during Cowboys-Dolphins halftime. They just raised millions!!!LOL @ you danD124 |
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