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Re: EUEUEUEUEU economy controlled by Bundesbank (''secret dictator'') |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 10 02:23:07 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU economy controlled by Bundesbank ("secret dictator"), posted by Olog-hai on Sun Jun 10 01:23:42 2012. Oh ... and here's the game:http://www.qwmagazine.com/2012/06/08/occupy-europe-the-euro-collapse-is-a-goldman-sachs-scheme-to-bag-eu-banks-for-a-song/ Written by a CONSERVATIVE MP, so you know it's mmm-mmm-good! :) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU economy controlled by Bundesbank (''secret dictator'') |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Jun 10 07:32:20 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU economy controlled by Bundesbank (''secret dictator''), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jun 10 02:23:07 2012. MMM,Yummy. |
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EUEUEUEUEU "bailout" (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 11 15:07:02 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Associated Press
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 12 09:31:54 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU "bailout" (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 11 15:07:02 2012. At least people are starting to realize the limits of government trying to manipulate economies. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 09:36:57 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU "bailout" (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Jun 11 15:07:02 2012. Wait a minute. Smaz said that this is why the stock market rallied last week when I claimed it was reaction to the Wisconsin "recall" vote.Could Smaz have been so wrong??? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 12 17:37:07 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 09:36:57 2012. Trolls like that think that these kind of geopolitical changes are just a big joke. Until it affects them personally. |
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(EUEUEUEUEU) Italy next for the "bailout" loan sharks |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 12 17:43:15 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Business Insider
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Tue Jun 12 17:43:23 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 12 09:31:54 2012. What we REALLY need is to take all the Nazis and send them to Alaska to mine gold so the US can go back on the Gold Standard. Yeah, man REAL money. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:20:53 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by SLRT on Tue Jun 12 09:31:54 2012. Correction: this is the kind of result you get when constantly remove the powers of government until it's no longer able to help. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:22:33 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 09:36:57 2012. Why would the stock market care about the recall vote in one state? |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 19:33:28 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:20:53 2012. And Goldman Sachs manipulating the result with no oversight. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 19:33:52 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:22:33 2012. Because Hannity sez so. :) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:39:40 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 19:33:28 2012. Oh, but big corporations are not like big government, they are A-OK! Even when they fail, it's because government had a hand in it! |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 19:40:48 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:39:40 2012. And no matter how big they screw it up, it's up to the middle class taxpayer to bail their asses out because it's not their fault. :) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:41:10 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 19:33:52 2012. He certainly has a bigger mouth that Warren Buffett, that's for sure :-). |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 19:45:03 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:41:10 2012. Somebody has to dispense truth, justice and the American way ... :) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:14:07 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 19:22:33 2012. Had Walker lost the recall vote it would be clear to Wall St. that the policies of the big spending liberals were predominant. The fact that the lunatics of the left lost sends a message to investors that there is hope for economic stability which is a friendlier environment for investing. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 20:21:27 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:14:07 2012. But that only showed how one state of one country felt. Though it was a loss for the Democrats, it didn't necessarily reflect how, say, New York or California will vote come November. OTOH, there are upheavals which can make or break whole countries going on right now, which would have huge impacts on the global corporations being traded in the stock market. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:26:28 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 20:21:27 2012. The same, albeit less dramatic results were seen in other state elections and will likely be seen in November. As for the foreign bailouts, I think that the saner powers that be are beginning to see that based on the extent of and the size of the bailouts throughout europe, that it's all a house of cards - one that will be falling quite soon. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Tue Jun 12 20:37:01 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:26:28 2012. Which is why we need a comprehensive system of financial markets regulation which is both pervasive and global so the RATS cannot hide.Free markets mean an enslaved middle class. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 20:37:31 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:26:28 2012. Certainly, we're heading towards something big in Europe. I think we're going to see countries dropping the euro and going with their own currencies, IMO. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 12 20:38:52 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:14:07 2012. What is so unfriendly about the environment for investing right now?your pal, Fred |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:41:38 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 20:37:31 2012. well, if you recall, that was my point. Smaz said the bailout of Spain was the impetus for the small rally on Wall St. I disagreed. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:42:46 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 12 20:38:52 2012. In one word, uncertainty. If you want a few others. "Lack of Leadership" but mostly uncertainty. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:00:59 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:41:38 2012. It was understandable that the bailout in Spain could have started a rally, since that meant the EU was actually doing something to prevent Spain from collapsing. Whether that will be enough - well, that question is what caused the drop. The effects and magnitude of what's happening in Europe and Asia have a much more significant and immediate impact than the recall election of the governor of one state, esp. since national elections are months away. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 21:05:28 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:00:59 2012. The rally started on Wednesday. The rumors of the bailout didn't begin to be heard until late Thursday. Besides, it is not reasonable to believe that the same people would be happy about the bailout on Friday and go into a selling panic on Monday over the very same news. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:34:06 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 21:05:28 2012. Wednesday rose because of anticipation of the Fed: linkThursday had news about China taking action, among other things: link Friday, it was Fed inaction and caution about Spain's bailout, which had not been worked out yet: link Monday, too uncertainty about the bailout as investors heard more details: link So yeah, there are much bigger concerns on the minds of investors than Scott Walker. Welcome to the global economy. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 21:42:31 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:34:06 2012. But ... but ... but ... his conservative common-taters insisted that breaking the backs of workers doubles your money! ;) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:44:34 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 21:42:31 2012. Depends on who "your" is referring to :-). |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 21:49:27 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:44:34 2012. Being a republican is like playing Lotto ... you honestly believe you'll get some if you keep dropping trou. :) |
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(EUEUEUEUEU) Germany doesn't learn from history, pushes Europe to brink (just like 1931) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jun 12 21:57:17 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. Der Spiegel
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 12 22:05:42 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 20:42:46 2012. Those are bumper sticker slogans as there's never a sure thing in the business world.your pal, Fred |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 22:06:26 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Tue Jun 12 21:34:06 2012. I cannot find the link to the item I was referring to but all your links still doesn't prove smaz right - which was the thrust of the post that you were referring to. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 22:10:34 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 12 22:05:42 2012. Perhaps but the billions of dollars sitting on the sidelines waiting for some clarity in the issue of tax reform and obama's class warfare are real. Those dollars won't get into the game until investors are certain of the rules by which they will be playing. Thats just how it works. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 12 22:13:15 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 22:10:34 2012. What billions of dollars sitting on the sidelines?your pal, Fred |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jun 12 22:18:17 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 12 22:13:15 2012. Euros. :) |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 13 11:45:05 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 12 22:06:26 2012. It also shows that the market isn't being influenced by vague, ideological events, only by economic news and data. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jun 13 12:51:15 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 13 11:45:05 2012. +1, THIW and all that stuff.your pal, Fred |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Jun 13 17:00:53 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by 3-9 on Wed Jun 13 11:45:05 2012. Well now, that's a matter of opinion. The same news drives the market up one day and drives it down the next if you believe the pundits. I cannot find the link to the article I was citing so for now I'll concede the point but I believe that you are far too dismissive about Wisconsin's affect on the markets. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jun 17 10:32:58 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Rockparkman on Tue Jun 12 17:43:23 2012. Only of you lead them to Alaska to mine gold. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Jun 17 12:03:34 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jun 17 10:32:58 2012. That is why we have AUTO RACKS. Just have them handle the rock and dirt butr NOWHERE NEAR the Concentrate. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 17 12:05:56 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Rockparkman on Sun Jun 17 12:03:34 2012. There is no train line to Alaska. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sun Jun 17 12:54:46 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''bailout'' (loan-sharking) of Spain backfires, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jun 17 12:05:56 2012. They can build the connection. |
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EUEUEUEUEU "court of justice" rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 14:31:58 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. A real workers' paradise. Where have we heard this one before?BBC News
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''court of justice'' rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off |
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Posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 21 15:35:14 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU "court of justice" rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 14:31:58 2012. Still finding new rights to benefits, even as the continent "sinks giggling into the sea."--*Credit to the long-time British satirical magazine Punch for that phrase. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''court of justice'' rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Jun 21 16:03:46 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''court of justice'' rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off, posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 21 15:35:14 2012. All rights are wrong over there. |
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Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''court of justice'' rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jun 21 18:22:22 2012, in response to Re: EUEUEUEUEU ''court of justice'' rules that workers who get sick on vacation can get extra time off, posted by SLRT on Thu Jun 21 15:35:14 2012. Greece is sinking because British employees must get extra time off when they get sick on vacation? |
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(EUEUEUEUEU) A fifth of German teens leave high school illiterate |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 23 03:06:44 2012, in response to EUEUEUEUEU Olog, posted by RockParkMan on Sat Nov 12 14:58:17 2011. The LocalBTW, I first went to school being able to read because my parents taught me how to read. |
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Re: (EUEUEUEUEU) A fifth of German teens leave high school illiterate |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Sat Jun 23 10:08:14 2012, in response to (EUEUEUEUEU) A fifth of German teens leave high school illiterate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 23 03:06:44 2012. "BTW, I first went to school being able to read because my parents taught me how to read."That IS how it WORKS. US media needs to be directed at the objective of making school cool as it was in the early 60s. Even ExxonMobil is pushing "STEM"* education in a huge ad campaign but art, history, culture, and physical conditioning (NOT to be confused with team sports) also need to be pushed. Technically advanced people without moral balance turn out to be Nazis. *STEM= Science Technology Engineering Math. |
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Re: (EUEUEUEUEU) A fifth of German teens leave high school illiterate |
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Posted by JayMan on Sun Jun 24 08:24:04 2012, in response to (EUEUEUEUEU) A fifth of German teens leave high school illiterate, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Jun 23 03:06:44 2012. I'm pretty certain, at least of the general population, the number is comparable in the States. The problem isn't the fault of the schools. It's that a share of the population is essentially too dumb to read. The throngs of Turkish immigrants there have swelled that share. |
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