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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:21:12 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by LuchAAA on Wed Oct 5 05:38:51 2011. The same thought occurred to me - but what the heck. I'll play along. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:23:42 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 06:55:27 2011. Yes it was meant for unclear ass-pect. My apologies for my confusion. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:31:26 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 01:57:47 2011. Alabama will be driving people out based on their lack of legal immigration status. Unless you can show me a provision of the Alabama Law which specifies that a certain race is targeted, I'd have to conclude that you are deliberately trying to misrepresent the Alabama law or even the Arizona law. For the record, I'd support throwing out illegal Canadians as well. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 5 08:34:25 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Wed Oct 5 00:06:33 2011. Wow people worried about a bunch of folks down south being stopped for no reason... Wonder where they was twenty thirty years ago?Oh wait never mind... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 5 08:37:54 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:31:26 2011. I say throw out any and all illegal aliens where ever they come from. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:42:30 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 5 08:34:25 2011. Several months ago, I told a story about me being stopped because I happen to be driving through a "high crime" part of my town where drug traffic and prostitution flourish. I was doing nothing illegal but I was stopped and questioned about what I was doing there. I was "totally humiliated" that I had to show my drivers license. At first, I felt that these two officers were actually trying to stop the drug traffic and the prostitution in my town by checking people in the area. Now, after reading AlM's and Smaz's posts, I realize that they were probably targeting "Middle Aged Jews". Someone get me a lawyer, please. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:43:54 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 5 08:37:54 2011. Amen!! Can I get an Amen from the congregation? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:46:43 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:24:08 2011. Did you see the movie, "The Boys From Brazil"? That's exactly what they did - and placed those children with other families to re-create a perfect Adolph Hitler clone. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:47:55 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 5 08:37:54 2011. Most reasonable people would feel that way, but infortunately, the hard left like SMAZ seems to think it's inhumane to send Mexicans back to Mexico or Canadians back to Candada if here illegally. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:52:06 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:42:30 2011. I was pulled over in a Black neighborhood in Suffolk for that exact reason back in the 80's after dropping a friend from work off home because his car broke down and was at the shop. The cops assumed that because I was white, I was "there to buy drugs" or pick up a prostitute I guess, so they pulled me over, asked for my license, and asked me 'what I was doing there". I told them I had just dropped my friend off who didn't have a car because it was at the mechanic. He said, okay, gave me my license back, and I was on my way.I was racially stereotyped. Oh the horror. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:53:08 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:52:06 2011. Oh, and for the record it was a Black cop. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:55:25 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 5 07:37:45 2011. What if a meter maid, behind in her quota tickets your legally parked car?What if you go to the dentist and he drills and fills teeth that have no cavities? What if government forced you to buy things that you actually didn't want or felt you didn't need? How silly do we want to get here? When you are stopped, you have a legal obligation to show proof that you are authorized to operate that motor vehicle. It goes along with with the privilege of being allowed to drive. The law says that if you want to buy cigarettes, you need to show proof of age. Where is the harm if the law protects children? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 09:01:43 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:52:06 2011. And of course you were not upset because even though you were slightly embarrassed to have people see you pulled over by the police and have them think that you might have done a no-no, and you slightly delayed in your legal travels, you realized that they were out there doing their job which is good for all concerned, right? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 09:05:10 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 09:01:43 2011. Actually, it didn't bother me at all. I was glad that they were actually doing something about the drugs and prostitution that was prevalent in my friend's neighborhood at the time. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Oct 5 09:12:29 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:42:30 2011. A white guy I know who lived at Stanton and Clinton Streets in the 1980s was actually told by a cop to get out of the neighborhood. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 09:20:15 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Wed Oct 5 09:12:29 2011. What were the circumstances? Police don't normally order law abiding people out of neighborhoods. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Oct 5 09:35:14 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 08:42:30 2011. 
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 5 09:48:52 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 09:20:15 2011. Police don't normally order law abiding people out of neighborhoods.Harry Beck and I were stopped, searched, and questioned for driving through Cabrini-Green in Chicago at night, and we were told to get out of the neighborhood. I was also stopped on prom night in Woonsocket, RI with my date two other couples in the car because the cop thought we were trying to steal the car. After it all checked out, they told us to "get the hell where you're going and stay there." |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Oct 5 10:26:38 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 5 09:48:52 2011. Why were you told to get out of the neighborhoods? Did you ask? Did you file a complaint about the way you were treated? |
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Posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 21:46:10 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:32:10 2011. I'm an introvert. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:13:59 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:24:08 2011. I advocate protecting American citizens from a life of misery in Third World crime-ridden, civil war-racked countries. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:16:59 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:25:34 2011. Their children should be with them, not some state run institution.Their children need to grow up in the United States of America. If the children are citizens, they are free to return when they no longer have to be with their parents and can be on their own. Some child that is now 3-4 years old is gonna return as an adult without ever having gone to school here, know anybody here, learned the language and who probably dropped out of school in Honduras by age 12? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:19:24 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 08:47:55 2011. the hard left like SMAZ seems to think it's inhumane to send Mexicans back to Mexico or Canadians back to Candada if here illegally.People like SMAZ who love American children think it's inhumane to send those Americans to Zacatecas and Nicaragua because of their parents transgressions. We don't do that with the children of terrorists and mass murderers but it's somewhat OK to do it with children of illegal immigrants? |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:24:15 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by TonyG on Wed Oct 5 01:58:35 2011. I DID'T VOTE FOR THESE MOTHERFUCKERS AND YOU'RE STILL PUNISHING ME. NEITHER DID ALL KINDS OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT YOU ARE PUNISHING.neither did black South Africans in the 80's. It was only the economic boycott that forced the white racists to change there and eliminate apartheid. Innocent people suffered in the short term in order for them to prosper in the long term. So it will be with Arizona. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:26:49 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 07:08:07 2011. You believe people that look Hispanic should be exempt from this normally expected occurence?Americans that look Hispanic will be especially targeted by such laws. I will not remain silent in the face of such injustices against my fellow Americans. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:35:53 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Oct 5 06:44:57 2011. People like Smaz thinks that it's racist and inhumane to have Mexicans raise their children in Mexico.People like SMAZ think that it's racist and inhumane for governments to ethnically cleanse American citizens. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:45:31 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:16:59 2011. Their children need to grow up in the United States of America.That's very egocentric. The children are also Mexican Citizens by virtue of their parents. It's absurd to say that it's inhumane for Mexicans to be brought up in Mexico. Some child that is now 3-4 years old is gonna return as an adult without ever having gone to school here, know anybody here, learned the language and who probably dropped out of school in Honduras by age 12? That is their choice, they have every right to come back when they are able to live on their own. Millions of immigrants have come to this country without every having gone to school here, knowing anyone here, not knowing the language, and who may not have had full educations. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:46:54 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:19:24 2011. People like SMAZ who love American children think it's inhumane to send those Americans to Zacatecas and Nicaragua because of their parents transgressions.They are also citizens of those various countries too. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:48:02 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:24:15 2011. No it won't as these nonsensical boycotts (such as arizona) don't work. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:49:20 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:26:49 2011. Okay, so you DO believe that certain people shouldn't have to show their driver's license at a traffic stop like everyone else. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:50:02 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:35:53 2011. Except that people like Smaz are thinking irrationally and in mass hysteria. |
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Posted by Easy on Thu Oct 6 07:56:20 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 07:26:49 2011. As an American that looks Hispanic I have no worry whatsoever about being "targeted" and the only people that would have any worry are people that are not supposed to be here. The Americans that you should be worried about are the ones that are losing their jobs to them. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 08:13:22 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Easy on Thu Oct 6 07:56:20 2011. Yeah, all those fruit picking jobs I've been dreaming of. LOLInteresting NYT article about farm labor. your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 08:33:57 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 08:13:22 2011. There are plenty of LEGAL immigrants to take and deserve those jobs.And nice article, but it doesn't say anything about illegal immigrants, just non local. There are plenty of LEGAL Mexicans too you know. Another one mixing up ILLEGAL immigration with "immigration". |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 08:37:13 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 08:33:57 2011. Try reading the article.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 6 08:41:30 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 08:13:22 2011. For some, those are real jobs. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:46:52 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:45:31 2011. That is their choice,Sure. 3-4 year old children make such choices every day. Parents go out of their way to give them the choice. (roll eyes) |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:49:03 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:46:54 2011. They are also citizens of those various countries too.ahhh yes. The "dual citizenship defense" to justify ethnic cleansing. Dr Karadzcic and Gen. Mladic have just found their ticket to freedom. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 08:51:00 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 6 08:41:30 2011. I know that firsthand.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:53:08 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 07:50:02 2011. Except that people like Smaz are thinking irrationally and in mass hysteria.People like SMAZ are the most lucid individuals out there. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Thu Oct 6 09:12:36 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:49:03 2011. Your comparisons are getting more and more idiotic. Are you under severe emotional stress? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:24:35 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 08:37:13 2011. I am afraid it's YOU that haven't read the article. The farmer in question was participating in the LEGAL H-2A foreign worker program where LEGAL non-Americans are allowed to come into the country to work. And the farmer decided not to do that, and instead tried hiring "local" workers instead.Interesting article, but it has NOTHING to do with ILLEGAL immigration, and absolutely NOTHING to do with the Arizona or Alabama illegal immigrants laws. So, as I said..."another wond confusing ILLEGAL immigration with legal immigration". |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:26:18 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:46:52 2011. Excuse me? I said it's their choice when they are old enough to come here and live on their own. Until then, they belong with their parents. If their parents aren't allowed to be here, then they have to stay where their parents are until such time they can come here on their own. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:30:29 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:49:03 2011. Oh please. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:31:50 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by SMAZ on Thu Oct 6 08:53:08 2011. Not when you are comparing states in the Union to terrorist war zones. |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 6 09:32:19 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Tue Oct 4 17:31:19 2011. What! You don't want to answer? |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 09:33:37 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:24:35 2011. I said "Interesting NYT article about farm labor."So tell me, Einstein, where did I mention "immigration"? hmmm? :D your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 09:34:47 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by chicagomotorman on Thu Oct 6 09:32:19 2011. Nobody really wants to answer you.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:39:23 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 09:33:37 2011. You made the post in response to Easy, who made a post about the Alabama/Arizona law that are targeting ILLEGAL immigrants, and the hysteria about profiling, in which he stated correctly that "only people here illegally have anything to worry about".The little tug at the "what will we do without illegal immigrants" didn't work, as the story has nothing to do with illegal immigrants. |
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Posted by Fred G on Thu Oct 6 09:46:11 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Oct 6 09:39:23 2011. Easy also said this: The Americans that you should be worried about are the ones that are losing their jobs to them.That is what I responded to. The article highlights that people aren't jumping up and taking these jobs that are available. All that other stuff you said is pretty funny. your pal, Fred |
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