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After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by dand124 on Tue Oct 4 08:58:16 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/04/us/after-ruling-hispanics-flee-an-alabama-town.html?_r=1&hp |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by orange blossom special on Tue Oct 4 10:56:15 2011, in response to After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by dand124 on Tue Oct 4 08:58:16 2011. Hispanics? All the Cubans, Puerto Ricans, and Peruvians fled?Yea right. |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 4 10:59:57 2011, in response to After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by dand124 on Tue Oct 4 08:58:16 2011. I wish is was nation wide. |
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Posted by clearaspect on Tue Oct 4 11:12:03 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 4 10:59:57 2011. You might be deported then... |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 11:15:12 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by clearaspect on Tue Oct 4 11:12:03 2011. Why might he be deported? Do you know him to be an illegal immigrant? It's mu understanding that this is the group that's being targeted. DO you know otherwise? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 11:24:58 2011, in response to After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by dand124 on Tue Oct 4 08:58:16 2011. Interesting i wonder if this is going to set the Bar for other States? |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:25:28 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by chicagomotorman on Tue Oct 4 10:59:57 2011. That's called ethnic cleansing. If you read the article, many of the people leaving Alabama are American citizens. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:26:16 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 11:24:58 2011. Not after other states see the economic mess it's causing in AL. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 11:26:32 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 11:24:58 2011. It may do just that as long as honest people believe that they are not being served by the federal government. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 11:27:29 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:25:28 2011. Why are American citizens leaving Alabama? Free choice? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 11:28:02 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:26:16 2011. What economic mess are you referring to? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 11:33:06 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:25:28 2011. No, it said those citizens are the CHILDREN of illegal immigrants. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 11:39:23 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:26:16 2011. It is? As in the people leaving?Why cant the local residents take those jobs then? Its work right? Or are they too spolied to get thier hands dirty washing dishes and doing manual Labor? Or is it that the Jobs they left had no protection, no benifits and was "off the books"? |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:01:57 2011, in response to After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by dand124 on Tue Oct 4 08:58:16 2011. That was the point. You can be certain few, if any, had the proper legal documentation required to live in this country. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:02:31 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:26:16 2011. What mess? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:03:35 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 11:28:02 2011. He's probably waiting for some liberal propaganda machine, er I mean think tank to churn out a BS study backing up the absurd charge. Kinda like that piece of shit claiming 70 percent of the new jobs in Texas were taken by immigrants. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:12:53 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 11:33:06 2011. Try reading."Drawn by work in the numerous poultry processing plants, Hispanic immigrants have been coming to Albertville for years, long enough ago that some of the older ones gained amnesty under the immigration law of 1986." |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:14:37 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 11:27:29 2011. Yes, free choice spurred by a misunderstanding of the law. Why the misunderstanding? Probably partly or even mostly due to the excessive reaction by opponents.But chicacgomotorman is saying he thinks this exodus spurred by misunderstanding is a good thing. That's what I object to. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:15:03 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:01:57 2011. You can be certain if you think the writer of the article is lying. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:17:40 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:15:03 2011. Obvious butthurt is obvious. There's no rational reason to flee if you are in the country legally. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:24:12 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:15:03 2011. Irrational arguments don't do your image much good. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:27:38 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:12:53 2011. Then they are here legally and have no reason to flee. ONLY ILLEGAL ALIENS need fear this law. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 4 12:33:21 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:12:53 2011. To be fair, it does not explicitly state nor strongly imply that anyone who left would fall under that amnesty. The closest it comes to that is when it talks about two people who had already paid off their mortgage. |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:34:46 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:14:37 2011. Please - the liberal spin on this issue refers directly to illegals fleeing Alabama to parts unknown with their (born in the USA) citizen children. An unfortunate consequence of the law but I still believe that the responsibility to raise children should be the parent's. Perhaps when these children reach legal age, they can return to their country and enjoy the fruits of citizenship. |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:35:17 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:17:40 2011. Who said that the people leaving Alabama who were there legally are being rational? Not me. I said the opposite in another post. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:37:24 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:35:17 2011. Well you cannot blame this law for people's unreasonable fears or irrational behavior, can you? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:42:22 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:37:24 2011. I believe their fears are rational: they know they aren't here legally. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:42:59 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:17:40 2011. There's no rational reason to flee if you are in the country legally.Sure there is. If you're an American citizen, you don't have immigration papers. What are you going to show when you're racially profiled into a "routine traffic stop"? Carry your birth certificate in your glove box? If this were where I lived and the law was targeted to illegal Jewish immigrants, I'd sure as hell move despite being a natural born citizen. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:44:26 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:42:22 2011. I believe their fears are rational: they know they aren't here legally.The people who are there legally know they're not there legally? |
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Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:46:58 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:44:26 2011. Why are legal people fleeing? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:49:47 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:44:26 2011. The fleeing aren't (for the most part) legal. Any Latino fleeing Alabama is by definition either illegal or irrational. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:50:10 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:42:59 2011. Please, that is such a weak idiotic argument. I am an American citizen and I have no immigration papers. I'm not fleeing. Where would you go if they were targeting Jews? I cannot believe that a natural born citizen can be so shamelessly ridiculous. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 4 12:52:01 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:49:47 2011. But this subthread is talking about the ones fleeing who ARE legal. You fail at following a thread. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:52:10 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 12:49:47 2011. Agreed |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Tue Oct 4 12:52:56 2011, in response to After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by dand124 on Tue Oct 4 08:58:16 2011. Glenn Beck or some American should go to the town and find that trailer and do a story on the truth. See if all the Mexicans really left.If they did leave, keep in mind, many Mexicans are migrant workers who are on the move two or three times a year anyway. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:57:35 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:42:59 2011. What are you going to show when you're racially profiled into a "routine traffic stop"?Sorta like us Blk Folks have had happen to us for god knows how long? |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 4 13:00:56 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:42:59 2011. That's an irrational fear. Cops aren't out to get you simply because you might look latino. The only reason this sounds rational to your kind is that you believe Alabama is populated by nothing but racist rednecks looking to lynch anyone with a dark complexion. That's your problem with hate, leave the innocent residents of a southern state alone. |
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Posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 13:04:10 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 12:37:24 2011. I haven't. I've just been challenging false assertions and the expressed desire to drive US citizens out of the country. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 4 13:08:03 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 12:35:17 2011. Who said that the people leaving Alabama who were there legally are being rational? Not me. I said the opposite in another post.You said that them (American citizens) leaving was "ethnic cleansing". Now they are behaving irrationally. Which is it? |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 13:14:35 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Easy on Tue Oct 4 13:08:03 2011. You can't get much more irrational than that. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 13:15:49 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 13:04:10 2011. If "US Citizens" are being "driven out of the country" for a law that doesn't have the purpose of doing so, that is their OWN irrationality, not the law. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 13:16:54 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 4 12:52:01 2011. But he's right. It's their OWN irrationality that would make citizens leave, not the law. People being driven out are either illegal, or irrational. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 13:18:06 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 12:57:35 2011. But you didn't leave the country :) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 13:19:25 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 13:15:49 2011. exactly |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 13:19:48 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by AlM on Tue Oct 4 11:26:16 2011. Economic mess? |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Oct 4 13:20:54 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Tue Oct 4 12:42:59 2011. What are you going to show when you're racially profiled into a "routine traffic stop"?The same as you or I would be expected to show - a drivers license. Are you suggesting that Hispanics should be exempt from having to show a drivers license? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 13:22:47 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 13:18:06 2011. But you didn't leave the country :)Exactly! So why those people who Belong here running for?? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 4 13:25:21 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Oct 4 13:16:54 2011. No, he's not following the subthread. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 13:28:17 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Railman718 on Tue Oct 4 13:22:47 2011. Beats me. That's why I asked the man who's making the claim. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Oct 4 13:29:55 2011, in response to Re: After Ruling, Hispanics Flee an Alabama Town, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Oct 4 13:25:21 2011. Who gives a fuck. If it were up to small minded imbeciles like you, there would be no sub-threads to worry about. Join PRIGS ANONYMOUS and leave real people alone. |
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